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I'm a little scared....
I don't know if this comes under "drugs" or "misc." I am currently addicted to Norco. I have chronic pain due to arthritis in my back, knees, shoulders, etc. The worst pain is in my back and I am just recovering from a severe bout that landed me in ER. Problem is, I need the Norco to help with the pain, but I want OFF! I have tried going off the Norco a couple of times and had withdrawal symptoms (Classic) as well as pain, that forced me back on. I am taking 10/325, and am down from every six hours around to the clock to three times a day (morning, noon and bedtime). I take 800 of ibuprofen with it and occasionally in between. I think I could stand one or the other, the W/D symptoms or the pain, but not both! What can I do to make the W/D symptoms less awful? I have to be alert and awake. I am caregiver to my husband who is recovering from cancer and now having heart problems, so I have no choice but to "tough it out." Please, help, if you can.
yey...shopping spress form he!! LOL
I can't even begin to imagine how much money I spent when I was loaded. I would just buy stuff. I have **** everywhere that I just bought and thought we needed it or would use it! Also, gave really great gifts to people! I think people are going to notice that stopping! LOL!
second that...worrying about where the next pill was coming from...i dont even want to count it up....geez...i am sure it is in the thouaands and thousands.....depressing!
Oh my goodness. I spent 2 years ordering Vics off the internet. Yes it is mind blowing. And this is why I am in so much credit card debt now. I needed my pills so bad that I used those 2 websites for 2 years. $130.oo month consult fee x two companies plus $135 or so for the 90 pills. I kept telling myself that I would pay off the credit card fee every month but I could not do it. That is how I go into so much debt. FedEx would deliver 90 10's and I would take like 6 per day. I would run out before the end of the month that is why I ordered from 2 different sites. I remember spending my morning at work looking out of the window just anxiously waiting for that Fed X truck to bring my pills. So pathetic.I am so happy that I don't have to do that anymore.
There are far-reaching consequences from this damn disease, that's for sure! Has anyone really honestly sat down and figured out the money spent over the past 6 months, year, 5 years, etc on their DOC? And then there are the associated costs, like things you bought while lloaded, days you couln't work, etc. It is mind-blowing!
Another reason to stay clean!
Another reason to stay clean!
life is so short and i guess i see it everyday at work...numb to it somewhat as to work in my job u would have to be or u may become a drug addict! LOL...COL): being happy for the time u can is an important aspect in life...using till ur bank account is gone does not make me happy...waking up in the morning feeling withdrawals everyday does not fill me with cheer either.....gonna get there tho...love u guys for chatting when i need to...this is a great group
I know this is off the subject a little but I totally thought you had a little boy named Luke and you called him Lukey. So funny all our different perceptions!
SK...I think if you know for sure you are ready to quit the 1st step is to make a plan. Most of us here can help you with that be it cold turkey or taper. BUT if I am reading your post correctly you are only taking 3 10mg's per day and that should be pretty easy to come off of... yes, you will have a a few days of discomfort. So tell us what you think!
SK...I think if you know for sure you are ready to quit the 1st step is to make a plan. Most of us here can help you with that be it cold turkey or taper. BUT if I am reading your post correctly you are only taking 3 10mg's per day and that should be pretty easy to come off of... yes, you will have a a few days of discomfort. So tell us what you think!
What good taste you have. I absolutely love that movie. Not corney at all.
Thank you so much for your input. it is tough. I am on the Subs now for the last 3 months. Very weary of waking up every morning wondering how i would get the money or find the pills. Broke me to no end. I have horrible credit now. Had good credit all of my life until getting this stupid addiction. Right now I am on Sub and just trying to get my life back. It has saved me in so many ways. But I do realize that I have a long road ahead of me with the Subs. and getting off of them eventually. In the meantime, I am going to try to enjoy life to the fullest and just be happy that I am on my way to a clean life.
k...cool...just figured it had something to do with lucy....funny how we have our names and tv idols.....my fave character is scarlett from gone with the wind....corny but true!
Actually, Lucille Ball has always been my favorite. I just love her and that show. What happened was my daughter brought home a stray kitten last year. We thought she was a girl and we named her Lucy after my hero. One day we found "her"licking her privates and the hallopenio pepper came out. My daughter said "Mom, Lucy is a boy" So we decided to give her/him a name that rhymed with Lucy (because at that point he /she knew his name) and came up with "Lukey". Anyway he is the light of my life right now so I use his name as my user name.
i ordered on the internet too but a couple 100 a month was a totally affordable habit for me. i know ppl who blow more than that every weekend night at the clubs. girls who used to put an oz and a half of cola up their noses at a sitting.
if you're in chronic pain, i don't know what to say. in that case, i would support the use of the pills. i would rather be an addict than in pain, i can say that for myself. the lesser IMO of two evils. if that's what it takes to get thru the day, u get thru the day.
if u can find a way to make it work w/o narcs and/or they are making u feel worse bein on them from an emotional perspective, then get off. but, if u have legitimate serious pain, i dunno what to say. if it were me, i'd take the pills, just enough to be pain free. most of the ppl who are serious chronic pain sufferers claim that they don't get high at all off the stuff, but it is the only thing that will solve the pain. maybe they're lying to themselves or others but i know from experience that there is pain that only narcs will solve. i've tried every OTC analgesic known, from keto to vioxx to everything else and the stuff flat doesn't work for me.
when i first had my wisdoms pulled, of course that is acute pain, i'd do a vike ES during the day and 600mg of Ibu at night, trying to be "clean" and i was anti drug and all that. but when i got braces put on, sometimes they wrenched my molars so bad, listen, i tried EVERY single OTC analgesic there is and none had any effect. i took prescription doses of ketoprofen, which was specifically recommended for acute pain and it did jack for me. meanwhile, 2 std vikes made me able to eat solid food. so, i don't know, YMMV on this. i certainly couldn't pass judgment on someone who'd be unable to function without narc pain relief.
if you're in chronic pain, i don't know what to say. in that case, i would support the use of the pills. i would rather be an addict than in pain, i can say that for myself. the lesser IMO of two evils. if that's what it takes to get thru the day, u get thru the day.
if u can find a way to make it work w/o narcs and/or they are making u feel worse bein on them from an emotional perspective, then get off. but, if u have legitimate serious pain, i dunno what to say. if it were me, i'd take the pills, just enough to be pain free. most of the ppl who are serious chronic pain sufferers claim that they don't get high at all off the stuff, but it is the only thing that will solve the pain. maybe they're lying to themselves or others but i know from experience that there is pain that only narcs will solve. i've tried every OTC analgesic known, from keto to vioxx to everything else and the stuff flat doesn't work for me.
when i first had my wisdoms pulled, of course that is acute pain, i'd do a vike ES during the day and 600mg of Ibu at night, trying to be "clean" and i was anti drug and all that. but when i got braces put on, sometimes they wrenched my molars so bad, listen, i tried EVERY single OTC analgesic there is and none had any effect. i took prescription doses of ketoprofen, which was specifically recommended for acute pain and it did jack for me. meanwhile, 2 std vikes made me able to eat solid food. so, i don't know, YMMV on this. i certainly couldn't pass judgment on someone who'd be unable to function without narc pain relief.
you know....lucy...i mean lukey...i figure u wanted the "ilovelucy" but it was taken! LOL i started taking money out of my 401k...and forgot one of the times that i had...i did my income tax and was like "holy cow" i am frugal and that was like killing me...but ur addicted mind wll overtake ur deepest values....my mom counts eggs before she cooks breakfats.."k...there are 6 of us so i will cook 8 eggs" never enuf food around there growing up! funny how we turn into the person we love no matter how silly things may be (I never counted eggs tho) LOL....whereever i am or u r now is not as bad as the place we just left....i know how miserable i was and i may not be the good cheer energizer bunny but i know i am happier than i was then
I am in so much credit card debt from ordering the pills on the internet I can't begin to tell you. I was so desperate. I had 2 websites that would send me 10's of vicoden as long as I faxed them my medical records proving that I had a problem . I use to get 90 pills per month. Paid for the consult ($130.00) and some foreign doctor would ask me what I wanted and I would say I need 90 10's. They were in my lap the next day. I did this for 2 years and kept putting it on my credit card. I am in so much credit card debt due to this easy way to get pills. How pathetic that they were so accesable. Don't get me wrong, I admittedly ordered them but looking back I cannot believe how easy they were to get which helped me get to where I am now.............on the Subs.
Yey....agree lukey...just caused more pain and lots of debt....stress aggravates my pain and those pills were one big stressor at the end
Exactly........narcotics are not the answer. All they do is get us in trouble and that is why we are here. I do get a steroid injection now and then in my shouder which helps alot. Hard to believe that the last narcotic pain pill I took was 3 months ago. Can't even being to tell you how wonderful it is to not crave them anymore. I was spending at least 1/2 of my paycheck every week on pills. Now since I don't take them anymore I am finally getting my life back together and my finances back together. I look back and cannot believe the amount of $ I was spending on pain killers due to my habit. I actually have $ in my savings account for the first time in years. Lovin it........
Chronic pain is one big bumber and i can relate...i have been in pain since i was 26..and i get very tired of it and also resorted to narcotics to help....but it got the best of me and caused me more mental pain to add to the mix..so i quit and really dont see a big difference at all in my pain level now....hurt then and i hurt now...i try to stay to the natural types of pain relief...but i still have to do steroids and injections from time to time...i save muscle relaxers and such to help with flare ups..also nuerontin...accepting the pain as part of life was hard for me as i had to totally change my life around to accomodate the pain....but narcotics are not the answer...this i know
Joann gave you great advise. Aw, I feel for you. I had a bone scan a few weeks ago to try to pinpoint my shoulder problem. The results were very disheartening. They told me I have bad arthritis in EVERY joint in my body........especially bad in my right neck., sh oulders, elbows, wrists, hands, etc. Explains all of my pain these past few years. Now he (my orthopaedic surgeon) wants me to get an MRI of my neck. I know how horrible arthritis pain is.....I am now on Suboxone to get off of pain killers......but the Sub doen't really help with the pain. I wake up in the morning with terrible pain in my hips. I walk everyday for 1/2 hour at work at lunch time. They say excersise helps the arthritis. Some mornings I wake up with so much pain in my hips that I cannot walk. I have been taking high doses of Motrin to help aleviate the pain since I cannot take any pain medication because I am on the Suboxone. It helps somewhat. I know it can be frustrating especially if you are a caregiver and have your own problems. You will get alot of support and suggestions on here to help you. The people on here are so very helpful and caring.Keep posting.
Welcome to the forum and congrats on the decision to get your life back. On the right hand side of the screen are health pages and they have the Thomas recipe and amino protocols for going cold turkey or tapering. One thing people don't realize is that being on the opiates for so long makes your pain worse. I am a week pill free from hydrocodone as well...but what I have been told and I am starting to personally realize is the pain isn't as bad now that I am off the pills. There are a lot more people on here with more experience & advice that will answer you soon! I did a taper and it worked for me but we are all different it takes a lot of self control to taper and it kind of drags it out but I am taking care of my toddler. It is doable and worth it! Just keep posting and feel free to ask any questions you have! -- JoAnn
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