not gonna make it, CT is killing me

[quinner]

I am fighting my mind and body so badly, my mind is telling me one phonecall will ease the pain.  Cant take the RLS especially in my arms, nothing is helping.  Also stomach cramps and overall pain makes me feel like i got hit by a truck.  i really dont think i'm gonna make it folks. is CT really for me?  Maybe i made a mistake.  I'm only one day in, last pill was taken between 6-7 pm last nite.  is this really how quickly everything sets in, especially thr RLS which began in the afternoon. please someone help, please please

[stepbystep742]

hey everyone I am really motivated by each and everyone of you that is facing the same problems that I am facing. This isn't my first attempt at detoxing but I do feel that have much more expierence this time than prior times and I took the taper down approach. I also find that the first few days are so unbearable that i cheat and take a quarter to half of a suboxone a day. It takes off the edge and the strong w/d symptoms and i taper down from the potent suboxone drug and DO NOT take it for more than a few days to  a week. You will get addicted as i havent but i have seen from friends and from what ive read. Does anyone here have expierence with sub and is a believer that it can supplement a easier w/d even though it has such a long half life that people often say it can drag out the w/d symtoms even though they are not as strong due to the gradual dissapation from your mu receptors. If anyone knows that would be extremely helpful. I hear conficting stories whether or not it is smart to use subs.

Step by Step

[kimbo546]

Try Hylands for RLS you can find in at Walmart..It helps. Hot baths before bed too. Feel better soon. Kim

[quinner]

Ho wdo Amino Acids help when you are going through WD and does it help with RLS because that is the big withdrawal for me.  Thanks in advance....

[Xsane]

Figured we'd see u soon enough. Its hard bro. Im over my Methadone issues but I work in  a Hospital. And I LOVE Opiates as much as anyone and have more access to Meds than even the MDs.
Crazy how tempting it can be. Id get fired if I ever got caught so its not worth it = but still, it sends shivers  up my spine for a Relapse. U"ll be okay though.

[quinner]

i'm still around people in case anyones wondering.  I'm taking everyones advice and i'm going to try it all.  I can't let this drug beat me.  Like i said before, i'm taking the battle to round two.  I will make a new post when i begin CT again and i hope you will all be there to help me through this again. I just need to buy a few more products, some movies and get my parents on board for the support and I'll be ready.  

[Rulebrkr]

Try about 50 mg immodium. They take the WDs away (normal dose is 2 mg at a time). I've done it a zillion times and it worked so well I was able to work thru WDs. Seriously. You will only get "backed up" for a day then all will be normal (not the icky WD craps). I took 50 mg ata time when needed, usually twice a day fir 2-3 days. Do a google search for loperimide - it's an opiate that does not cross the blood brain barrier but will bind to the mu receptors in your gut. It eliminates all the nasty aches, sweats, rls. Just be sure to drink a lot of water bc it can dehydrate you.

I think I posted this to you before. Maybe not. I just posted it to another person. Please at least look it up. And anyone who has tried it - has it worked for you???

[abel04]

it all good........read my posts from CT.....you really do feel like you could die for about 5-7 days nite 3 was the peak for me.  I figured the hours in 5 days & started giving myself credit for each one as they went by.  This will probably be the hardest thing you ever have to do, i've had children, major surgeries, worked 16-hr. shifts on my feet back to back etc.......getting off vicodin both physically & emotionally was definitely the hardest, BUT WHAT CHOICE DO YOU HAVE>>>>>REALLY?!

relapse----use it as a weapon in  bout 2

[addict3]

Dump the pills ...........and then dump that phone #

You can do this ............if you want to!................Good luck!

[dominosarah]

Try not to feel ashamed quinner.......Think positive.  We get more accomplished by doing that.   You have alot to look forward too.........sara

[dominosarah]

Dont rely on "your thinking".  That is what got us here in the first place.......sara

[quinner]

Found the Hylands product through the store locator (thanks "this_big") i am going to load up on everything today and tomorrow (i just dont have the time to do it all today) than its round two for me.  One thing though i am keeping my use to a minimum.  My thinking is that it should help but i really don't know.  Another thing is THAT YOU GUYS are all awesome an i'll never forget the support i have gotten here. Iwill keep posting and i hope you all do too.  Thanks

[gnarly_1]

ooo and by the way get all the pills out of the house when your in the grips of withdrawal its far to tempting if theres anything in the house flush it..........Gnarly

[gnarly_1]

Hey dude sorry you dident make the night....the first night can be ruff.....this time you know what to expect and dont read anything into it each day is different you will go threw a variety of symptoms but they usually dont stay the same so the stomach cramping should go away
you can do this you almost made it threw the worst part for most give it another try here
im usually up late night to help good luck and God bless.......Gnarly

[Ladybug9705]

You can do this..I am on day 1 and yes it is very tough. I know one phone call and I could feel better but I am not gonna do it. We can fight this demon! Hang in there. You can do it!

[dominosarah]

I think today would be a good day to start.  Dont wait a couple days as that can very quickly turn into many days.  The quicker you get going on this the quicker you will get better and start living a clean and healthy life~~~~~sara

[vicki595]

Hi~  If you can't find the Hyland's there are other things you can get: Buy some Tonic Water;it's full of quinine which is what you need. Also, a cal/mag supplement and a good multi vitamin with potassium. You can drink apple juice,also.

You can start again today. Don't give yourself a few days...you'll keep putting it off. The other thing is preparing for detox. Get everything you need at the store,start pushing fluids,turn the phone off,get comfortable and hunker down.The hot baths really help,don't underestimate that therapy.

Good luck and keep posting~

[this_big]

After digging a little more i found out that there are actually like 6-7  Walmarts in Toronto...but im sure you knew that..lol..

I found this on Hylands website..they also have a store locator...it might be worth checkin out..hope this helps   http://www.hylands.com/locator/results_details.php?id=24577&dist=

[this_big]

It appears there is Walmart in Canada. Do you have one close to you? I didn't see one in Toronto though. Go to Walmarts home page and use the store locator. Enter you Zip code and it will tell you the closest one.

[quinner]

I am in Canada and cant find the product "Hyland Restless legs/cramps". Anyone out there know where i can find it in the Toronto region?  That is the worst part of the withdraws for me and i can only speak for day one in that aspect.

[Rulebrkr]

Don't beat yourself up. Someone once told me that the best way to CT is to hold off taking your DOC until the pain is unbearable then only take what you need to make you feel better - and no more!!!!  They thought of it as a drastic taper. It never worked for me - I always just picked up again. Just pick yourself up and keep trying. Ive also heard that half of getting clean is relapsing.  Not sure if that's just an excuse to use again / never understood that but maybe someone here can explain it. Just please don't let your using go too far.

[merrymaria]

Don t feel bad....in the past I couldn t even go 4 hours.  It s all part of the process of addiction...please don t be sorry...you can do it

[Rulebrkr]

I just read the rest of your other post and agree with the person who said do not go down the methadone route. I'm stuck here now. From what I hear the WDs are a hundred times worse and I am sooooo scared because I know in my heart I am just putting off the inevitable. If it helps think of what you are doing as taking the easiest way out - over the long haul. I should have quit CT months ago but wussed out and went on methadone (yes there is always an excuse for why we can't be sick) and I'm kicking myself (not kicking the drug) for not having the guts to face it at the time and just get it all over with.

It's amazing how those little boogers can make us feelso good, trap us, and then lead to such misery when we choose to en the relationship.

Just think in a day or two you will be here helping others and talking about how you did it. Heck you may even be my lifeline when I drip the methadone.

You are too far into it to quit now. Keep up the good work, even though it doesn't seem that way. It is.

[DayToTry]

You don't need to wait a couple of days quinner.  Today is a good day...

If you don't take any more now you won't have lost too much progress.

[quinner]

i appreciate all your comments, i have to be honest and say that i gave up late last night. I didn't even last 30 hours before i gave in and half an hour after i took that evil damn pill i was sleeping in no time.  I am so ASHAMED because i let myself down and so many others like you people too.  This war is not over.  I feel i rushed into the first battle.  The second battle is going to begin soon and i'm going to win this one.  I am going to be better prepared and have everything on hand, i still have my Doctors RXs but i will get everything else i need today and tomorrow.  This is no way to live and i know todday is going to be a bad day for me, i feel hurt, defeated, depressed and everything else that comes with my failure.  I am sorry folks but i will remain tuned to this site looking for advice and you will all know in a couple of days when i begin battle number two.  I'm sorry and thank you all