need to help a friend off smack, subbies?

[gazzat123]

hope someone out there can help. I have recently fallen for a girl who I have found out has a serious heroin addiction. she predominantly smokes it but has occasionally injected. she really wants to get clean & I believe her as I can see the person behind the drug. she has a son who was taken away from her & needs to be clean to stand any chance of being involved in his life. this is her main motivation, another reason I know she means it.
She has asked if I can get her subbies to help her get off & I really want to help but need some advice.
should it be subutex or soboxone to start, will these actually help & how can I get them in the uk.
she doesn't want to go to the Dr's as this will admit to the authorities she is still using and put pay to any hope she has of seeing her son.
please help it's killing me seeing her hurting herself so bad every day & I know she is so much better than what she does.

thanks in advance

[gazzat123]

thanks lola, you really do not realise how much you are helping me & ultimately her.
just hope somehow I can pull it off.
I had heard suboxone was supposedly better as it has an additional blocker, is that not the case?

suddenly don't feel quite so alone thanks all

[lola200677]

And I understand how one can get hooked on opiates from pain. I was in pain since a kid and so got introduced via that route too. It's then hard when you're clean having to deal with/ find a way to solve or manage the underlying pain that was there in the first place...but that's something to do after in recovery (if she's still in pain) without resulting to opiates xx

[lola200677]

Heya
I never went to rehab but did it at home but if she went on subs she wouldn't necessarily have to go in rehab just be abstinent from the opiates for 24 hours before the sub.

Residential rehabs in the uk you got:
1) VERY expensive places if you google it you're looking at thousands of £ for a few weeks minimum
2) some hospitals can be referred by a doctor or gp (look up Maudsley hospital for substance abuse) it's somewhere south (I know of this one in particular because I was going to go but there's a waiting list!!)
3) try Turning Point (it's the place I went to - there are many around the country) you can just call them it's free and they have doctors that provide counselling and subutex/buprenorohine or suboxone (I'd go on subutex or buprenorphine as less side effects) and they may suggest rehab there.

Good luck

[gazzat123]

serious thinking is about all I've been doing at the moment. thanks for the feedback & a different perspective, appreciate it

[gazzat123]

anything else or any other route I could try??

[gazzat123]

thanks to all of you for your comments and support, it's helping sooo much.
yes love is blind and we do need more than just that but if it's all we have what choice do we have.
if I can make any difference, for the good, to her life at least I will know I have done what I could. I can't walk away from someone I care for knowing I could of tried, just wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I did.
any one in the uk know how much residential rehab costs & how effective it is??