Tomorrow is last day on sub.

[faith_hope_love]

Tomorrow is my last day on sub detox and this was the plan and I stuck to it all the way.
Day 1 - 8mg
Day 2 - 8mg
Day 3 - 8mg
Day 4 - 7mg
Day 5 - 7mg
Day 6 - 7mg
Day 7 - 6mg
Day 8 - 6mg
Day 9 - 6mg
Day10- 5mg
Day11- 5mg
Day12- 4mg
Day13- 4mg
Day14- 3mg
Day15- 3mg
Day16- 2mg
Day17- 1mg
Day18- 1mg
Day19- .5mg
Day20- .5mg

It figures that I would have to read (this was on another board) that this girl was only on 1mg for 19 days and had "real bad" withdrawals.  I don't know WHY I stress myself out over stuff.  I guess even though many have reassured me here (and thanks for putting up with me) I have read so much bad (not only here, I had googled something and wound up on heroin detox ******* and happened to read how they are recommending starting at 4mg or even 2mg and for only 7 or 8 days) that now I am scaring myself again that where I would have only had a 5-7 day wd period from lortab now I am wondering if I have screwed up and will have to suffer for weeks.  

I am on Day 19 at .5mg and feel fine.  Yes, I have started sneezing a bunch today and my left leg hurts some but that is it.  I have slept pretty good every night.

I have taken a multivitamin with high minerals everyday, plus a protein shake which has the added bonus of 420mg of potassium and 1 5htp and 3 ltyrosine per day.

Does anyone feel like telling me that I am going to be fine again? lol  Seriously, I know I am a worrier so I do appreciate all the support that I have gotten here.  Lyn

[ShatrdKY]

Your my Idol!
I start my Sub treatment 5/29!
I worry, I wonder if i'm jumping from the flame into the fire! I worry that i'll like the sub so much i'll try to stay on it longer than needed.
On the other hand; I worry! i wonder what I would be doin' 5 years from now if i DONT get the sub & start living the life I want to live WITHOUT the monkey on my back!
i don't really know you, but you've reached the Goal i've set for myself. I'm very PROUD of You.
YOU WILL BE BETTTER THAN FINE AGAIN< IF NOT FOR THE FIRST TIME!
HERO. That's what You are!
Blessings & Best wishes!

[Friend999]

You will be fine!

Lyn, you have completed your taper, and that took some doing.  Right?

You can rake whatever will happen.  Yes, sub tapering over a short time is supposed to get you through with minimum withdrawals...BUT.. whatever happens, keep that determination and resolve and continue down your road to recovery!  Whatever happens!
I'm curious, and others should be, as to what cravings, anxiety, and/or depression occurs after short term sub use also.

You are doing great, and I hope your withdrawals are minimum.  

My best to you.  You have been strong.  Keep up the good fight, whatever happens!

Friend999

[SableZen]

I just wanted to say this: You've already done so much work and moved so far forward from actively being addicted to something emotionally and wanting to change your life: that has already paid off. And no one or anything can take that away from you now. Keep fighting the good fight no matter what form it takes, and you will see the light at the end of the tunnel and you will get to where you want to be. Withdrawal passes, it's guaranteed.

It sounds like you've planned and done everything you can do physically. Emotionally you are ready or you wouldn't have even made it this far... as over-simplified as it sounds, physical withdrawal will pass in a number of days no matter what if you can ride through it emotionally. Don't get side-tracked into fearing that part. Take a deep breath, realize you've tapered down to 1/16th of the amount you were taking at the beginning and that no matter how you look at it - that will have an impact and it will help.

Keep us posted!

[faith_hope_love]

Thanks guys for the support.  I know I need to suck it up and stop freaking out.  I sound like a baby..lol.  

ShatrdKY -  You can do it just please, please read all the info on sub., detox for a certain amount of days and then try your hardest to start a taper plan as soon as possible.  For me, the sooner I am off the sub, the better.  I didn't get any kind of a buzz or anything from it that would cause me to want to stay on it.  I do have to say that I didn't feel a thing detoxing off the lortab with the sub. and the only problem I did run into was nausea and I had that until I was down to about 5mg. of sub per day.  I bought otc Emetrol for nausea and took two tablespoons of that and ate half of a sandwich(didn't have much of an appetite) before every dose of sub.  If I didn't do that, I would have had to lay down.  I went through 4 bottles of Emetrol but it took the nausea away and that is all that mattered.

I haven't read what you plan to do, are you doing a short term detox or what?  What is your DOC?  Make sure you read the amino protocol to the right of the page.  The ltyrosine has been a big help to me for energy and the 5htp puts back the seratonin you lose from the opiates.  I take melatonin to sleep.  Just make sure you have everything you need, make a plan and you should be fine.  One last thing that the people here told me and they were right...try to take the sub before 3 or 4 pm each day because if you take it too late it might keep you up all night.

I will definately post in a few days and let you all know how I feel.  I am taking that last .5mg in the morning to hurry and get it behind me.  Lyn

[toomanytimes]

YOU GO GIRL!!!!  You are going to be so fine you won't be able to stand yourself!!  Fear is only that...fear. You have done everything you've said you were going to, you are so disciplined, nothing will be able to shake you now.  Please keep posting and let us know how you are feeling...i'm with ya  : )

[LONESOME]

You will be FINE, I'm so happy for you  you said 20 days and you are doing it!
Good for you!

[worried878]

u made a plan...do not freak out now...follow thru...dont question now whether it would have been better to do this or that...u r where u r and u followed the plan that u made for urself....how can anything be wrong with that?  going back and wishing and dwelling gets nobody nowhere...except stressed out and negative....u r moving forward and looking back is moving backward and should be avoided at all costs...u will be fine girl...u have the lord on ur side and nothing bad will happen to you as long as u stay focused and strong...He looks out for us

[nursenomore]

After a few failed attemps at kicking my heavy Norco addiction, c/t, going on Subutex has really worked for me!  No cravings, normal triggers for relapse don't seem to bother me, just a few tolerable headaches!  I just came from a meeting where everyone on Sub or how took Sub hasn't relapsed once since day one of starting Sub therapy.  If you feel it's a good option for you at this point of your life, at least give it a try.  It doesn't work for everyone, nothing does!  Try not to get too wrapped up in all the chat surrounding Sub, because it's different for everyone.  There is plenty info out there as far as methadone, lots of negative feedback, and I know a few that really benefitted from taking methadone!  So, it's your choice.  Whatever you do, trying to keep positive and open-minded will help you succeed!!

[faith_hope_love]

Thanks toomany, worried and lonesome.  I took my last .5mg around 9 am(wanted to hurry and get it out of my system) and I feel fine today.  I really feel normal, my energy is good and no anxiety which is so weird that I am not having that.  My sleep is pretty normal.  

I saw a pattern at around 4mg.  Say if I took 4mg. then it was 2 days later that I felt a tiny reduction and I almost don't want to even mention it because it's so bearable and any lurkers reading don't need to feel worried.  But anyhow, all it would be was a little pain if left calve and my hands felt swollen.  That would last for a day and be gone and then about 2 days later as I would drop a mg. I would feel those same symptoms again, they last the same amount of time and are gone again in same amount of time.  Yesterday, I felt those symptoms and now today they are gone again.  I am guessing that I will feel them again in 2 days for that final drop but if it's just gonna be like it has been then yes, I will be fine.  

I guess that things in my life have been so hard, so stressful and for so long that I almost don't know how to act when things are getting better..lol.  I am ready to learn though.  Thanks to all of you for being there for me.

PS to toomanytimes>  I have been praying for you every night and I know you will be successful too.  I think you just had to get adjusted good before you could taper because of the side effects you were feeling..hugs!

[faith_hope_love]

Hi all!  It's been about 49 hours now and I still feel fine.  I am not feeling in withdrawal so if I were going to feel something bad wouldn't it be happening by now?  I had a little bit of leg pain last night for a few hours but tylenol pretty much took it away.  

[worried878]

i know it has a long half life but u stuck to the taper so well ..perhaps u wount feel much of nothing...keep going with ur life and stay busy...keep us posted

[GoingToMakeIt]

I am very proud of you. You have done so well. Congratulations!
Do stay connected with us. If there are any bumps in the road, we can help.

[faith_hope_love]

Hi worried and I will keep going and be fine.  I guess I just like to know.  If they have a half life of 35 hours then I would think that I wouldn't have to worry about any withdrawals since it is 49 hours already.  We will see.  

[hopsing94]

faith---- 90% is gonna be in your head. Your taper is excellent and your plan was very good. You will be fine and should only experience very minor w/d symptoms if any. Most of it is in your head at this point. So stay positive and stay strong.

[faith_hope_love]

Thanks everyone and I will be ok.  Now I just have to focus on getting healthy again so that will be my goal now. :-)

[LONESOME]

I'm so happy for you, can't wait to post here about me stopping sub as well I'm still on 1mg doing ok still is been a 10 days on 1mg and dropping to 1/2 tomorrow hope all goes well.
I'm so glad you are setting a great example here that sub is not ALWAYS  a bad thing like all medication is a tool to help us WE are the PROBLEM.

You are a great example to follow faith and no pressure if you were to go back for any reason on sub again for another short term don't feel the pressure ok.

[GoingToMakeIt]

I still think you will be OK. It is such a short taper, your body shouldn't w/d from it much.

[worried878]

How long did u stay on the sub?  just curious...be sure and address any depression issues or anything that occurs if anything does occur...give ur brain time to heal...if we can just make it to the point where our brain can heal without using...i think we got it made!

[faith_hope_love]

To worried - I stayed on the sub a total of 20 days tapering down from 8mg at the start. (see the top of the thread where I listed my taper plan) I feel ok as far as depression.  The amino's and vitamins have made a difference in the mental part because the ltyrosine is just enough of a boost to where I am not dragging myself around and the 5htp has helped with my emotions.  Of course, as you all can see for the past few weeks, I did stay very anxious but that was only because of being afraid I wouldn't do the sub right.  I do have to say, that in a way, I do appreciate the negative comments because they helped to keep me in check with my taper and making sure I did it safely and as quick as possible.

Lonesome - you are doing great and with your slow taper that will make all the difference.  You all have been so supportive to me, my lifeline, I honestly feel like God directed me to this site to help me know that I wasn't all alone.  That makes all the difference.

[didittomyself]

way to go!  congrats...i cold turkey sub from 2mg....i never took more than that...2mg one time a day for maybe 3 months most...and some days i didnt even take it, when i first started it i only took 1mg then needed to up it...i didnt think i would have wds from 2mg but i was wrong...im on day 5 of no sub and it seems to be getting a little easier...the sweats and chills are by far the worse...no sleep a couple nights but last night i had help from ambien...we will see what tonight brings, gonna try and sleep on my own...ive been doing the vitamin thing too...not sure if its helping cause i dont know what i would feel like if i didnt take them!!!  im just hoping tomorrow is a better day!  its gotta end soon huh?

[faith_hope_love]

Just bumping this up so my friend can see it and also to let you all know that I still feel ok.  No withdrawals last night or today.  My energy is low but doable so I am ok.

[hopsing94]

I am very happy for you and it's great to read this post. For those who are thinking of sub this is great for them to read. Great job!!!!

[worried878]

So happy for u girl...u deserve it!

[SableZen]

Everything you've done until this point has been huge! And I think all the work you put into it paid off in the end - as it should for anyone trying to beat an addiction so diligently. Very, very happy for you...