Anyone Looking To Find ROOT Causes and REVERSAL of their disease?

[FancyPantsandMe]

I am..was just wondering if anyone else is...I believe that the body has the ability, if given the right "tools" to return to a state of health and wellness.  I'm working on this today.  Wondering if anyone else is? What's your journey been like..what are you finding out? Do you have a doctor that thinks the same?  I have two that believe the body can heal given the right circumstances, which means the right supplements, detoxification etc.

Thanks for your comments ahead of time.
~Amy~

[want20bike]

Haven't heard from FancyPantsandME lately.  Hope she hasn't said the wrong thing on one of these boards.    

[want20bike]

Sorry your diet has not helped you more but what I have read concerning the Paleo Diet suggest some people can be cured of their disease.  Seems the longer a person has had a disease the harder it is to reverse the process.  I myself have had a number of sympthoms which have gone away due to what I have been doing.  I do have a muscle spasm condition on the left side of my face which is still present.  The condition started over 20years ago and may never go away.  When I went to doctors with this condition they gave me muscle relaxers.  The only thing these muscle relaxers did was make it hard for me to breath since they seem to relax the muscles in my chest.  Everytime I go to the doctor he wants to send me to a neurologist to get me some botox but that is not for me.  I prefer to address this problem with natural healilng and that is my choice.  This is the same doctor which gave me blood pressure medicine and told me I would need it for the rest of my life.  I dropped 35lbs due to the new diet and I no longer need the blood pressure medicine.  This doctor told me the pains I was having was due to old age and I would just have to live with them.  Those pains are gone and I am a year older.  Have to relate this to my diet.  I got the opinion the doctors in the emergency room really didn't believe the sympthoms I was telling them because they couldn't see any signs on the test they run.  If the doctors can't see this on their MRI or exrays they don't exist.  Doctors hate to admit they do not know what is wrong with you.  If the doctors cannot help, you need to find something else.  The doctors could not help me and I was able to find the real way the body can heal itself.  I do not think someone following a natural way of healing is any worse than the drugs the doctors put you on.  Doctors can do certain things.  They can set broken bones, replace organs, run test, and cure some forms of bacteria.  Doctors can do nothing about viruses and cannot cure these neurological diseases.  They can give you drugs to cover up the sympthoms and if that drug doesn't work they will try another drug.  These drugs do have side effects and are not good for the body.  Makes me feel like a guiene pig.  Sometimes they find out too late that these drugs are harmful.  The FDA all of the sudden discovered Tylenol can harm the liver if you take the recommended dosage.  Their solution is to lower the dosage so it will not harm the liver as much.  Harming the liver just a little bit doesn't sound like a good solution to me.  Many coming to these boards are here because the doctors could not help them and they are looking for hope.  The natural method of healing has exsisted since ancient times and my experience with taking these drugs has not been good.  No, a natural form of healing does not cure everyone but it will not hurt anyone to eat healthy.  If doing what you are doing works for you that is fine but you should not be insulted by me giving people another option to good health.  When the doctor tells you there is nothing wrong with you and you have to live with what you have it is nice to have something else to try.  Suppression of ideas is not the solution to solving the health problems we have.  Everyone must decide for theirself which direction to go and this is best done when you have all the information.  

[JenB12]

I don't think you and I are saying different things. I just don't see it as a cure, I just see it as a way to live better and for most people to feel better. I don't know why people seem to think I am arguing against this whole concept of eating raw food and eating healthy, organic, non-processed foods....... I'm not. I'm simply saying that I'm not of the camp that believes that it cures cancer, reverses autoimmune diseases and causes the body to heal all of it's ailments. I think that is where there is a lot of stretching and hoping for control back comes in.  I don't think the body is always equipped to repair it self, regardless of level of nutrients, enzymes etc. It would be wonderful if it always did... What I DO think is that there are certain foods which are just not meant for consistent human consumption including processed grains, and most refined foods.

And anyways go back through and read the language of your first few posts, it sounds through the tone that you are implying that food can be a cure. I'm not personally bothered by it at all, but i can see why some people would get offended when you say things like "you can heal yourself" and  "all the doctors do is give you the drugs that are themselves poison for the body. " I mean, not only are those statements ridiculous and somehow offensive to the disease sufferer, since it would seem to indicate that it is the disease suffers fault for not eating the right things. It's also offensive to the doctors who treat people with illnesses. FYI not all Doctors are here to take people's money. Modern medicine is not perfect but it IS amazing nevertheless.

When challenged on the subject, and when someone says they don't think diet is a cure per se, you digress and say you also don't think it's a cure, but that it is key to good health.... when above you said almost verbatim that you think eating right and detoxing is a cure. See quote below:

"The only thing I would like to do is inform someone who is new to these diseases that there is another option and they like me can cure themself if the take the right supplements to detoxify the body and eat a healthy diet. "

And that statement is just not true. Im not saying that it doesn't work because for some people it really might help and maybe even put someone's diseases into remission (going gluten free rid my friend of her thyroid problem, going gluten free did not change mine.)  What works for you might not work for me. I don't really like the attitude that people who have been sick for a long time, and who don't do the diet are stubborn, afraid to change and bringing their disease upon themselves... I'd be upset too if i was a long term MS sufferer and was reading comments.

Lastly, I eat nearly 100% organic. I grow all of my own vegetables and many of my own fruits. I make my own juices with a juicer. I eat little meat, (I do eat lots of sushi grade raw fish. I love hard boiled eggs though :( and am a sucker for unprocessed, unsweetened yogurts and milks. I eat grains like quinoa, and i've been gluten free for quite a while now. I avoid alcohol since it makes me sick and get lots of exercise. As a result i look healthy, but inside i struggle with feeling ill. I've been eating like this for years, and I'm not getting better.  my breakdown is apx. 75+% raw. 98% whole unprocessed foods. Of that it's 50% protein, 25% friut 25% vege.

Bottom line... processed foods are tasty but bad for the body, people should stop eating them because they are just not going to help you feel better & might be making you feel worse.... might have even started something in the gut that manifested into other issues (autoimmune or otherwise).  Changing diet like that is a lifestyle change for the better in terms of over all health, and should not be viewed as a race for a cure, if you go into remission while on the journey, all the better.

[want20bike]

Diet is not a Cure-all.  It is one aspect to good health. Diet is only one thing I have done to give me good health but I do believe it is important for me. We are all different and must find out what works for us.  I believe in trying what seems logical and allow my body to tell me if it works.  Hippocrates the father of western medicine said "Let your food be your medicine and your medicine be your food".  The ancient Greeks understood the relationship between diet and good health.

Your body needs the necessary vitamins and minerals to repair itself.  Eating hydrogenated oils, sugar, and artifical sweeteners do not give the body what it needs to repair itself.  If you smoke, drink alcohol, take drugs, have a toxic enviroment or a genetic problem the diet alone may not be enough.  Think eating a diet that has the vitamins and minerals in it should make anyone feel better even if it doesn't cure them.  Some natural healers use juicing as a way to cure cancer.  Using concentrated vegetable and fruit juices give the body vitamins and minerals in a more concentrated form allowing the body to heal itself in some cases.  Not everyone is cured by this.  It is just something you can try.  You have to choose what is right for you.  Some choose to let the doctor give them drugs and some choose natural healing.  The only thing I would recommend is read as much as you can and decide what is right for you.    

[JenB12]

I would always be willing to try anything. I agree that changing diet it difficult for most people, and especially socially since just about every social interaction involves food and beverage. However, i think that one of the reasons why some people hold on so hard to the thought that food can CURE their illnesses is that in reality they really strive to have control back over their bodies. The thought that changing your diet can make you feel normal again, gives these people back the power over their bodies they used to have. And in that respect it could have a good psychological benefit. I've read some of the concepts behind eating raw and organic foods and the benefits they have to the body, but i'm not convinced on the claim that eating that way is a cure....

I mean the best article I've recently read was not one of those written by any Doctors who's names cannot be printed... haha... but in the July issue of Scientific American (I think it can be read online.) It's about celiac disease and it's connection to other autoimmune diseases. It tells from a scientific stand point why leaky gut causes a host of other issues.

I suggest people read it because it's interesting, educational and well written.

Anyways bottom line is that as much as I believe in living a very healthy lifestyle, I don't think that eating certain foods is a Cure-all, i think that it really is a persons desperate grasp for control.

[want20bike]

Many of these boards are populated by people who have been there many years.  They are not necessarily based on healing but on a social network.  They have their ideas and often not receptive to other forms of healing.  Many will tell you they have tried these things you recommend and it hasn't worked for them.  They have spent maybe 60 years of eating improperly and expect to see results in 1 week.  Most people are pretty comfortable in their lifestyle and do not want to change.  With me I had to get very ill before I realized I had to change my lifestyle.  I am hoping some of what I post will keep others from becoming as ill as I was.