DDC non invasive? ? Help

[stephymarieee]

I did DDC non invasive test on the beginning of August.
Results came back on 09/09
I got the results I wanted Partner B was excluded so it leaves it too partner A I tested with DDC which seem reliable but after seeing some posts im kinda freaking out any one ever done the non invasive with DDC what was your experience? The whole rerun
My lmp 03/13 cycle is average 30 days
Sex with partner A 03/26,27,28 and 04/01. Sex with Partner B 03/30 using pullout he pulled out and finished on a shirt this method has always worked but reading stuff on internet about precum gets me so worried I decided too go threw with the non invasive test at 8 week ultrasound they gave me a due date of DEC 21 which made ovualtion march 30  my period tracker said I should Have ovualted 29-30. 20 week ultrasound gave me conception of march 29.due date dec 20 . I wanna trust the results and enjoy my pregnancy but its also very hard.
Anyone that can help ? Advice just looking at past experinces or help if I should be able too trust DDC non invasive test the rep told me I have nothing too worry about but im still very worried pls help

[AnnieBrooke]

I think you have done the one thing you can do, which is, testing with a reliable lab.  There is nothing left to do now besides test once the baby is born.  Your partner from the 26, 27 and 28 will have left plenty of sperm in your system that would still be alive and viable on the 30th.  If the test said he is the dad, I would trust it.

[stephymarieee]

With intercourse on 30th with partner b around 1 am pullout , I don't quite remember if he peed after this (that is what causing the worry because i know this is how precum can get mixed with sperm. ) and around 7am again we had intercourse used the pullout again , online when i really started doing research it said this is the mainly why pullout fails because of sperm leftover im urethra and i do not remember if he peed right after that session thats what has me worried Im really hoping DDC has is right . I just wanna enjoy my pregnancy :/

[stephymarieee]

The only true reason why im so worried is because doctor told me conception/ovualtion date was on 30th . I know conception is when the day your egg was fertilized which was the date i was with partner B ??  Should I be worried?

[AnnieBrooke]

stephymarieee, this was not said to trouble you.  I do think that when a woman has copious amounts of sex with ejaculation inside her and also a one-time event with pulling out, just on a mathematical basis alone her chances of being pregnant from Mr. One-Night are much smaller than Mr. Semen Galore.  But that is not what I'm reacting to in your story when I think it is the first guy.  I think the DDC is accurate almost all the time, and probably those few times when it has not been accurate it has been due to errors with the sample collection (which would produce a "no" even if the answer would otherwise be yes) or even deliberate faking on the part of the man.  If you got a positive, I would trust the positive.  

[AnnieBrooke]

Where I stand on pre-ejaculatory fluid?  lol

I think a woman can get pregnant by contact with a man's pre-ejaculate if:

-  he recently ejaculated before getting the erection that he had with her and had not effectively cleared his urethra in the meantime, such as, he had masturbated or rubbed on someone until he came (or had sex) and had ejaculated, then had perhaps peed once but not a lot of time had gone by
-  the woman had a lot of vaginal secretions
-  the woman was ovulating (the vaginal secretions are particularly hospitable and welcoming to sperm when she is ovulating)
-  the man put his penis into or onto her vagina such that some of his pre-ejaculatory fluid came out.

The fluid that comes out of the Cowper's Gland does not have sperm in it initially, but it is the bus on which the sperm passengers hanging around the urethra will happily take a ride.  One ejaculation has something like a million sperm in it.  Some will be in the urethra for a while after ejaculating and will not be dead.

Your doctor is correct in saying that this is not the easiest way to get pregnant.  But that is how my cousin got pregnant; they were using "pulling out" as their method of (so-called) birth control.  My reaction is that pulling out is not a method of anything besides justification used by guys who prefer not to wear condoms.  

It's not common to get pregnant this way, but it only takes one sperm to get pregnant.  And though I hate to disagree with a member of the medical profession, if a woman turns up pregnant and had two partners, I would never recommend she not bother to test one of them just because he had pulled out.

[Jpike31]

My doctor called DDC herself and spoke with them. Most cases (for my state example) the results are help up in court. She said they look at the same factors that they would when you test for other things during pregnancy and they are 99.999 percent accurate.

Also, she reassured me they would NOT exclude someone the father if they werent the father. They wouldnt be allowed to, they would have to list it as inconclusive so I would rest assure that you are fine with the results

[Jpike31]

Annie,

Since the guy she was with on the 30th pulled out, it is still small for him to get her pregnant?

Just curious where you stand on pre ***. I just went to my doctor today and I hhad sex very close to date of ovulation with both guys and only one pulled out. My doctor almost fully excluded him as being the father but said there is a teeny tiny minor chance. What do you think?

OP- I think Partner A.

[AnnieBrooke]

Hi, stephymarieee, from the number of times you had sex with partner A, it is obvious that around the 29th or 30th you had plenty of his sperm in your reproductive tract, and you had sex only one time with partner B and he pulled out, which means there would be much less chance of his sperm getting in your system (and if he had not ejaculated recently prior to the sex, there is almost a zero chance his sperm was in your system).

If I had been asked to guess from your story what the DDC's test would find, I would have guessed partner A.  And it did find partner A.  And the DDC has a good reputation -- there is probably no such thing as 100% error-free, but obviously a DNA lab that cares about its reputation is going to really work to get their results to that level.

You say "I'm still very worried pls help."  I guess, depending on how worried you are and how rich, you could do a test with Ravgen.  Certainly if two of the top DNA labs in the world, not just one, come up with the same answer, you would be able to trust the results?  If this is not practical (and frankly in your shoes I would not think it was), then the thing to do is to assess the cause of your anxiety.  You took a test from one of the best labs.  It confirmed what you hoped was true and what logically seems to be true.  You then read one person's experience on the Internet.  That person had a bad experience.  Some women, when they read stories on the Internet, would just shrug and say, "So what, that doesn't mean my test is off; the lab has a good reputation."  But you didn't do that, it threw you way off kilter.  

My experience on this forum is that when a woman writes in and says "What if the --(lab, technician, doctor, DNA test) -- is WRONG???" it is not so often that she is really doubting the ultrasound or the test, but is usually based on her mixed feelings about how she got into this situation.  The way to deal with anxiety is to deal with the cause of the anxiety.  Do you have a good counselor or therapist to whom you can unburden yourself and with whom you can work out your worries?

In truth, in the (unlikely) event that the test is wrong, you will manage.  You will decide what to do, and will go on with your life, and your life will be just as happy as it might have been.  But right now you aren't seeing that.  A good counselor might be able to help you put it all into perspective:  the guilt, the fear, the anxiety.  If you put those to bed, you won't be thrown into an uproar over one person's story on the Internet.