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I am suffering from a severe depression. Last night I cried for % hours. I am 70+ and male. I want to be hospitalised, how do I go about it.
You wrote this for your Dr? It can be so very hard to go back in your life and actually put traumatic events down on paper. And it can also be traumatic to talk about them to a therapist. So, I do agree with your Dr about not getting in to therapy until you have your depression and BP more under control. Your BP seems to be related to anxiety.What do you think, is it true high BP or anxiety? It was so high when you were writing about these things, but went back to normal. You can always end me a private message any time you want. Only if it helps you and only if you want to talk more in depth about things. I am not a Dr or a counselor. Just someone who has dealt with depression and anxiety most of my life. Yes, I have been in therapy before and probably should still be going, But, I know the causes of my depression and anxiety. It took me a long time to figure it out though. Take care. Remar
Hi Remar, it is so stupid of me. I wrote a potted history of my life's traumas and mental problems. I got too aroused about the likely possibilities of Psychoannalysis and therapy that it upped my BP to over 200 over 95. Within 2 hours I was down to128 over 67 with a heart rate of 55. All because I thought that I would now be on my way. He'll kill me when he knows, but I must tell him. At least it will show my interest in recovery. Regards Dubba
I'm so sorry to hear your BP is up again. I would recommend calling your pharmacist to ask if this may be a side effect of your new med. I do not have BP problems but I was on one med that made it high. Had to get off that one.
Maybe your Dr is right about waiting on the therapy. It might be a good idea to get your depression more under control first.
Keep a close eye on your BP by checking it several times a day. Sorry, I can't help but worry about you. Take care. Remar
Maybe your Dr is right about waiting on the therapy. It might be a good idea to get your depression more under control first.
Keep a close eye on your BP by checking it several times a day. Sorry, I can't help but worry about you. Take care. Remar
Hi Remar, seen the quack. My BP is over the top and causing concern. I have to take my BP 4 x daily, and whilst we meet again in 2 weeks if the BP still gives problems I have to go back earlier. He thinks that in depth Psychotherapy could well give me problems, physically ,at the moment, but not ruling it out for later. Thanks for your interest Dubba
Yes! You keep hanging there. Sometimes we do have to be a little forceful with our Drs as far as what we want and need. I'm really surprised he is'nt all for you getting therapy along with the meds.I truly think it will help you a great deal. Do you need a referral from him to see a therapist? If not, then maybe you can start looking for one on your own. Your Dr does sound wonderful and I'm so glad you feel comfortable with him. That is so important. I hope your visit goes really well. Let me know how it goes. Take care. Remar
Hi Remar, I'm still hanging on in there. 24 hours away from my next app with GP. He is brilliant but I think he is trying to protect me. I must be more forceful to get some therapy. I think I must be easing back on explaining my thoughts and feelings. Lets hope I do a little better this time around. Thanks for your continued interest it is well appreciated. Regards Dubba
You are so kind and I do appreciate your wonderful complements. It just makes me very happy to hear you feeling better. Depression is just awful! I do think the meds are helping you tremendously, but I also think therapy along with the meds could help even more. Is the ADHD getting any better at all since you've been on meds? Take care my friend. Remar
Every time you make contact you put me at ease. It is a great gift that you have. I think that my GP feels that he can get me right on Meds only. I think he views that the chemicals in my brain are depleted and with Fluoxetine he is putting back the where with all to bring my thinking and feelings back to normal. He seems to be succeeding. I wonder what he will do for my ADHD? You ought to become a professional councillor, you certainly have the ability. Best Regards Dubba
Hi Dubba. You sound much better! I am so glad to hear the meds are helping you. No, you are not a fraud at all. When you first came to this site you were so severely depressed. Yes, there are some heartbreaking stories here. I'm so thankful for sites like this where people can come to and get support. Why can't you get therapy yet? Is your Dr not for it right now? Thank you so much for your kind words. I care very deeply for people and try to help when I can. I can't get over how much better you sound. That's so wonderful! Take care my friend. Remar
Hi Remar, Yep Bloods fine. I feel a fraud right now. These Fluoxetine are fantastic. I hope that this does not offend anyone but I've been reading a few posts and find them heart breaking. I read that day patients and inpatients have ties, belts and shoe laces removed. All my life I have been scared stiff of being admitted to the Mental Hospital. Now I have a Mental Illness, I want to be with the people on this site. I want to experience all the things that they all seem to experience, Yet I can't even get Psychotherapy currently. However that might change particularly when they look at my life time ADHD. I've also read some of your messages to others. Remar you are a wonderful and knowledgeable person. Regards Dubba
I'm so glad to hear your blood tests came back fine. The meds can really help with depression, but it's usually a good idea to get therapy along with them. Have you upped your dose yet? Take care. Remar
Thanks Remar, not too bad. Bloods are OK now. The Fluoxetine has done wonders, but I can still feel the underlying stress of the depression. Regards Dubba
Blow off as much steam as you need to. Having depression can be very frustrating. And when we start meds we want them to start working right away. You see your Dr this week, right? Maybe you should ask him to up your meds 10 more mgs to see if that helps. Take care. Remar
You are a tremendous help Maddie. I will try Priory. I am blowing off steam. I expect thinghs to be moving onwards but it is all too slow. I think things are very different in the UK now, perhaps I would be well on my way years ago. Locked in, on meds on ECT and probably on my way home? Thank you for your help, regards Dubba
Hi, you know there are Priory Clinics in the UK where you can pay to go privately. Have you tried that? All the famous people go to there when low.
My experience of a mental hospital here in UK was not that good. We certainly did not have daily chats with a psychiatrist or psychologist. ECT was given to those who were really "out of it", sometimes many, many sessions. There is usually memory loss after this. It is up to the staff whether they think you need it.
Blood pressure and depression, as far as I know, do not go together. Having said that, I did suffer many physical symptoms, which were all to do with depression. So who knows.
Usually a GP will put you on a lowish dose of anti-depressant, and then up it after a few weeks, so your body gets used to it.
I do not think a NHS hospital in UK will give you what you are looking for, but a private clinic probably will. Visions of lying on a couch talking with a psychiatrist do not happen in a NHS hospital, at least from my experience. I found it was the other patients who helped most!! Yes we had sessions, but usually in a group, and they were often disruptive and little help.
That is only my experience. I am sure I am no help.
Yes I live in a lovely county, but that does not stop me having depression. If only that were true. Money, celebrity status, and surrounded by beauty does not stop anyone having depression. I could give you a long list of well know people who suffer from depression. There will be a TV programme soon about well known British sportsmen who have, and still are, getting depressive episodes.
I hope you find what you need.
Take care.
My experience of a mental hospital here in UK was not that good. We certainly did not have daily chats with a psychiatrist or psychologist. ECT was given to those who were really "out of it", sometimes many, many sessions. There is usually memory loss after this. It is up to the staff whether they think you need it.
Blood pressure and depression, as far as I know, do not go together. Having said that, I did suffer many physical symptoms, which were all to do with depression. So who knows.
Usually a GP will put you on a lowish dose of anti-depressant, and then up it after a few weeks, so your body gets used to it.
I do not think a NHS hospital in UK will give you what you are looking for, but a private clinic probably will. Visions of lying on a couch talking with a psychiatrist do not happen in a NHS hospital, at least from my experience. I found it was the other patients who helped most!! Yes we had sessions, but usually in a group, and they were often disruptive and little help.
That is only my experience. I am sure I am no help.
Yes I live in a lovely county, but that does not stop me having depression. If only that were true. Money, celebrity status, and surrounded by beauty does not stop anyone having depression. I could give you a long list of well know people who suffer from depression. There will be a TV programme soon about well known British sportsmen who have, and still are, getting depressive episodes.
I hope you find what you need.
Take care.
Sorry Remar, it's frustration talking. I suppose it would be the same price structure in the UK as USA. I just feel that the states look at problems and answers differently from England. I am waiting for the next phase to be commenced, and twiddling my thumbs in between. Thanks for staying in touch. Regards Dubba
I'm sorry Jaquta, I was frustrated that things seemed to be going well then down a bit etc. I'm an active person and want to see things get moving. I had read that ECT was used only in the final resort but has a very high success rate. My thoughts were simply why not start there and speed things up. I suppose as different thing get tried I will calm down. Again thanks for your interest.
To me it would seem stupid to have ect (full stop but especially if not needed).
Medication (prozac) can effect BP. I think it dropped mine as when on prozac I kept feeling dizzy and passed out a few times.
If you're interested in therapy you don't have to be in hospital you could do that privately (like as an outpatient). Here in NZ I think that one one hour session would be in excess of $100. You would need to do the exchange.
Prices for a private clinic in NZ could be googled if you're interested. The place is called Ashburn Hall (?Ashburn Clinic). It tells you how much for inpatient/ outpaitent, etc. I don't think that it would say how much for ect. I think that when I was threatened with it (but didn't receive it) it was about $30, 000. Can't remember now. That might have been total or for one. The aneasthetic is what bumps up the price.
Have you thought about going into a rest home?
Medication (prozac) can effect BP. I think it dropped mine as when on prozac I kept feeling dizzy and passed out a few times.
If you're interested in therapy you don't have to be in hospital you could do that privately (like as an outpatient). Here in NZ I think that one one hour session would be in excess of $100. You would need to do the exchange.
Prices for a private clinic in NZ could be googled if you're interested. The place is called Ashburn Hall (?Ashburn Clinic). It tells you how much for inpatient/ outpaitent, etc. I don't think that it would say how much for ect. I think that when I was threatened with it (but didn't receive it) it was about $30, 000. Can't remember now. That might have been total or for one. The aneasthetic is what bumps up the price.
Have you thought about going into a rest home?
I'm so sorry your depression and BP are increasing. It might be time to up your meds right now.
I wish I could tell you what the cost would be but I'm not sure. The USA is a big country and there must be thousands of in patient mental health facilities. Are you having problems finding a place where you live, or is it the cost that's the problem? Take care. Remar
I wish I could tell you what the cost would be but I'm not sure. The USA is a big country and there must be thousands of in patient mental health facilities. Are you having problems finding a place where you live, or is it the cost that's the problem? Take care. Remar
Thank you for your advice. If he increases the dose OK. My BP is slightly rising again alongside a rise in Depression. What would the cost be in USA for a 2 week stay in a Mental Hospital taking Psychotherapy daily, and maybe ECT. Might be a better proposition in the long term? I see my GP later in the week so I will see what he seggests for the future treatment. Thanks for your guidance, it is well accepted. Regards Dubba
Are you having any anxiety along with the depression? I'm just wondering why your BP is all over the place. It does seem to be getting better though.
I'm glad to hear you've started exercising. That will help with the depression. Pick exercises that you enjoy. If you don't enjoy sports exercises then you'll quit doing them.
It's normal to still be feeling tired and unable to concentrate at this point. You've only been on your meds for a short time. It does take time for them to fully get in to your system. Your Dr should check you again in a few weeks to see how your doing. He may want to increase your dose. This is not uncommon so try not to be concerned if he dose increase it.
Take care. Remar
I'm glad to hear you've started exercising. That will help with the depression. Pick exercises that you enjoy. If you don't enjoy sports exercises then you'll quit doing them.
It's normal to still be feeling tired and unable to concentrate at this point. You've only been on your meds for a short time. It does take time for them to fully get in to your system. Your Dr should check you again in a few weeks to see how your doing. He may want to increase your dose. This is not uncommon so try not to be concerned if he dose increase it.
Take care. Remar
Thanks for coming back Maddie. You have so much knowledge. I'm sure you can see my response to Remar. Your knowledge too has been a great help to me. On a lighter note, how can anyone living in beautiful Dorset have any problems. You live in a beautiful part og England. Thanks again, Dubba
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Could you not talk to your daughters and let them know how their behaviour is affecting you?
Ultimately I guess you need to accept that they need to resolve their own issues, even if it's not how you would like it to be done.
I think it's pretty selfish of them to be doing this when they could be enjoying your final years with you. Not that 70 is old mind you.
Have you got somewhere, other than hospital, where you could stay?
Hopefully your bloods come back OK and your mood issues are easily treatable. Therapy can also be helpful. Having someone to talk to about stuff could make a huge difference.
Maybe you just need to concentrate on your own thing and let them do what they are. It's sad but you can focus on stuff that you have control over.