Suicide

[bosnianworrier]

Can a person be cured from being suicidal? If yes, can the person live his/her life without becoming suicidal again or do they always have a bit of "it" in them?

[Athena_M]

I think suicidal feelings will come in go in a person's life because that person has a mental illness and will need to change their meds accordingly.  

I've been suicidal at different parts of my life.  I have bipolar so that is the reason why.  My psychiatrist said people don't usually think about suicide unless they have a mental illness.  

Life gets hard sometimes, but you know what?  Life always gets better.  

I'm glad I haven't taken my life because whatever reason that I wanted to do it always goes away.  

Keep talking with professional and friends.  

[whodunnit]

Can you be cured of being suicidal? As it's not a medical condition the answer is NO.

The feeling of wanting to end our lives comes and goes and is entirely dependant on our own thought processes. So if our thoughts are negative then we will feel that urge from time to time.

It's a part of depression, axniety and chronic pain and many other illnesses too. All cause us to want a quick way out.

So, no. You have to deal with it each and every time you feel it and decide you own way to stay.

[opus88]

and MAMMO.........my heart goes out to you both!
I can't imagine what you both have lived through and have the strength to keep on a going....loosing a child/grandchild to me would be the most devastating of all life experiences.....
there has been alot of suicide on my husbands side of the family, and now my 38 yr old son is also suicidal........he lives only for his 9 yr old(son). he just can't shake the total darkness he is in and feels so hopeless abt the future. yes he is on meds and has a psycdoc.
Him and I talk daily and I continually try to encourage him and give him positive feedback, all is only another bandaid to one that has such a hatred for himself.......how do you ever fix that?
God bless you both..
How is it that some fight so hard to live while others have no fight in them?

[mammo]

If you have thoughts of suicide, seek help, but it sounds like you are just being bombarded by a lot of things.  I know divorce is hard, but you have to know that it is not a reflection on you, both parents still love you.  It may even alleviate some stress in your life.  Parents divorce for many reasons, but what they want most is for their children to be happy, and 2 happy homes are better than 1 unhappy home.  Just because you are a sensitive person does not make you a copy cat to suicide. If anything, it may make you more aware of how it would affect those you love and who love you, and that it wouldn't end your problems.   Life can be very difficult I know, I've been there.  You need someone to talk to about the stress in your life, and how to better deal with it.  You sound like a strong person to me, and I think you need to get rid of a lot of the fear in your life.  You can only do this with help.  Never be afraid to ask for help, we all need it at some point.  Can you start with your school counselor?  Find a way, and someone to talk to and make a promise to yourself that YOU are going to rise above all the negatives in your life, and emerge a stronger, happier person!!!  You be the one in the family to make change for yourself, your future, so that you can live a long happy life.  We all have many sad and difficult things happen in life, but it up to us to determine how we deal with it.  There are so many things you cannot change, so put these aside, change what you can, and accept what you cannot change.  You have a purpose on this earth, and somehow all that you are going thru is making you a stronger, more insightful person, who will be better equiped to go out into the world.  I did it, under the worst of circumstances.  In just a few years I lost my husband at 32 (colon cancer), leaving me with 3 babies, a brother -in-law at 38 (colon cancer) a son at 31 (FAP), both parents in a car accident, my younger brother was hit and killed by a car, and recently my 18 year old grandson (FAP).  He had to have his colon removed only one year after seeing his dad pass away from the same disease, and he was only 10. He had to stay in the hospital for 3 months due to complications.  Then he developed a 38lb tumor like his dad, it was removed but he was dying at 16 years old!  With just 10 days left to live, a set of 5 organs came thru for him, he cried, thinking it would never happen. He suffered Stage II organ rejection, could not eat anything by mouth for a year, and had to remain in their tiny apartment for this year because of fear of infection. He had 2 bags on his stomach for his waste, a colostomy and ileostomy bag.  He had to hook up to IV feedings at night while he slept for nourishment (also like his dad).  To meet him you would never guess that he had been thru all this.  He had a smile that lit up the room, and was always making others laugh. He called me the end of November, he was really down, missing his dad.  He said he wished his dad were here to toss a football with him. We talked for 40 minutes and made plans to go Christmas shopping the following week.  As we were hanging up he said "I love you grandma", and I said "I love you too sweetie".  He had one surgery left to endure and this was to remove his 2 bags, but the doctor wanted to wait until after Thanksgiving so my grandson could enjoy his dinner as he was not able to eat any the year before.  This would still have allowed him time to heal and graduate with his class last month.  We didn't get to go Christmas shopping.  Two days later he started vomiting blood, both bags filled with blood and he passed out.  He was rushed to the hospital where he died on Dec. 1, 2008, he bled to death.  An autopsy had to be performed to determine what had happened.  I was invited to hear the results, but refused.  I cannot take hearing of any more of his suffering, I want to remember how I last saw him, his sweet smile and his last words to me.  He was my little buddy, my friend, the light of my life. My surviving son had to have his colon removed at age 12. I almost lost my daughter after a 16 year old girl hit her head on at 85 MPH. The young girl was dead at the scene, my daughter was trapped in the car for 40 minutes, with injuries too numerous to mention. She refused to sue the parents, saying "I saw what my mom went thru losing a child, her parents have suffered enough."  On the 1 year anniversary of the accident, my daughter sent the deceased girl's parents a note to let them know that she was thinking of them and their daughter on that day.  It took her almost 6 months to recover, ask her how she is today, and she replies "life's good!"  Both my kids say that all they have been thru has made them stronger people, with a new apprecaition for life, and they do live full lives. My daughter is married with a 2 year old son, and works out regularly to stay in good health. My surviving son, beat cancer of the colon, and is married, no children.  He is a marathoner, ultrathoner, mountain biker, speed hiker, and will compete in the ProAm games this year in Jujitsu! They know how fragile life is, and when you've come close to dying, you fight! My son and grandson fought every single day for just one more day on this earth.  Through all their pain, suffering, and fears, they fought, they still found a reason to live............ Depressed?  You bet I am, as this doesn't even mention the lousy, childhood I had.  But we somehow have to find a way to move forward. Losing my grandson made me beg for God to take me, but then I remembered how very hard he and his dad fought to stay in this world!  They fought and fought, how could I just give up?  So, I fight every day.  I have my adult children and 2 grandsons who need me, I feel it would be very selfish of me to take away their mother and grandmother.  So, please find your purpose in this world and live your life!

[nart]

yes you can be cured from being suicial I KNOW THIS because i tried to kill myself by cutting i almost died...but you can be cured becuse thinking negative can be changed...........its all about how we think...i do have schizohrenia and that is why i did what i did.the voices wanted me to do it and i was told the voices were jesus..yes it ***** and  deep with in my  soul i see l feel nothings like it ued to be.....but im thinking  totally different know that dont mean i dont think about suicide every day if you went throw what i did there would be no way you could ever stop thinking about this.....but i am totally different now.in a good way forgive yourselves.....

[star641]

thank you bosnianworrier, but i really only told you about my children to let you know what suicide can do to a family it destroys them and im thinking about your family if anything happened to you, i will never get over loosing my two children and i myself became suicidal can you imagine that ,i just wanted to be with my kids the pain was to instance for me  but with the help of my therapist and having to change my meds im doing much better ,im now starting to realize the rest  my family would have died after me ,.,...i do agree with what hensley258 said, i think its all down to having the right meds and talk therapy ,...i dont think so much about been  suicidal  now it seems to be leaving me i just hope it never enters my head again
but if it does i will have my meds looked into again and thats all i can do ,
im glad you are feeling better now keep up them good feelings
all my love star ,

[bosnianworrier]

After talking to a psychiatrist, it seems that it is my OCD causing all this problems. I already feel better.

Star641 I am sorry about your loss. I can't imagine what you must be going through. :(( My thoughts go to you and your family as well as my prayers and i hope you will get through your grief.

[Hensley258]

I can only speak from my experience and that is that without the proper combinations of medications I becaome very suicidal. Maybe some people can "be cured of this compulsion without meds." I have yet to talk to any of these folkes, but perhaps that is just because they fail to post their experience. I think IF the suicidal urge is triggered by direct life events that in time it can pass, but if it is just part of your brain chemistry then it can ony be treated. With proper treatment I have acheived long periods from such suicidal ideas and obsessions.

If it gets to a point where the actual act of suicide makes you feel good and warm inside, then you know it time for serious help. This need for help MUST be self realized to be effective. It took me a long time to admit that I had a severe mental illness. I was resistant to the idea because I thought it made me a failure. I don't think it makes one a failure it just poses more challange to keep living, when normal people don't think or have to worry about such things.

[star641]

thank you for tell answering my 4 questions ,.
so its only since yesterday you feel like this ,lots of people feel like this at some time in there lives when things get to much for them ,but i dont like the stress you are under can you talk to a therpaist ?...its when you have a plan put in place ,..and they way you think ,...have you ever said to yourself people would be better of with me ,..
or im a lost cause ,...or its all my fault ,...negative thinking brings on suicide believe me
you must not think in a negative way ,...Ive lost two of my children to suicide and if only you knew the pain i am suffering now ,so please if you think you are talking or start to talk in that way go to see a therpaist as soon as it enters your head ,
and if it keep up go and have your meds checked out also ,..
some times its just the fact of having your meds checked that can make all the difference ,.....i will you well and im here for you ,......

[bosnianworrier]

Also I take some antibiotics which they said can induce suicide in 1 out of 10000 people. Maybe my fear of it, fear of the crime that happened and my depersonalization/derealization are making me THINK I feel this way.

I hope so anyway.

[bosnianworrier]

Thank you for reply. I am not really suicidal. I always feared I will become though, like my brother become (he seems to be recovering). But I am exposed to tremendous amount of stress such as divorce which has crushed me. Also other family issues which keeps me in depression. I take some medications for anxiety and i was just fine until divorce thing.

Yesterday, here accross the road someone killed an employee in a store and then shot himself. That struck me because this is the first time a suicide has happened near me that I know of. I am very sensitive and I fear I will become "copycat suicidel". Which means when someone does it, a sensitive person starts thinking about it.

So since yesterday my OCD made me imagine how would it be if I didn't exist. And it seemed all problems would be gone. When I was a believer I wouldn't even think about it because in my religion it is ticket to hell unless a person has no control but my faith has been melting away.

So thats why I asked. I kinda need reassurance if I really become suicidal can I recover from it.

Maybe this all seems weird but thats me.

So to your 4 questions again

1-Since yesterday
2-Already looking for help starting here on forum
3-Effexor, Klonopin
4- The triggers I mentioned above.

So once again I am not really suicidal I just was forced to think how would be if I died and for the first time in my life I didn't mind it, it seemed as "no more problems" thing and I do not want to feel that way. I have OCD and I don't wanna be forced to think about it and induce it.

Teco and LCC thanks you for your advices as well.

[teko]

After getting therapy, you can begin to look at things in a different attitude. The best way I can describe it is to look at the glass half full instead of half empty analogy. We can choose (eventually). By practicing this in little ways, it will eventually lead us to a different outlook on life, therefore that deep hopelessness will visit less often and when it does come, we can learn to take steps to prepare for battle.  I still get very depressed, depending on the situation at the time, but know if I wait it out, it will pass. I know what I want to say but am not sure how to put it in print, know what I mean? I try to look for things to amuze myself and lighten the load.  Like did you ever notice a birds mating dance while sitting at a red light? I also play games to distract and make myself snap out of it.  I smile at everyone I meet just to c if they smile back.  Or wave at everyone I pass on the road just to c if they wave back. lol

[LeftCoastChick]

I've been suicidal and have come out of it to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Feeling that was is temporary. If you are feeling that way at this moment, please go to your local ER or if it isn't acute see your psychiatrist. If you don't have a pdoc get a referral, it'll be the best thing you'll ever do for yourself.  Are you on meds? If you are, they may need adjustments, or you may need an extra one or a whole new one. But PLEASE go to the hospital, that's the fast way to get help.

http://www.befrienders.org/index.asp

That url has suicidal/crisis hotlines all over the world, it might be helpful. But please do not attempt suicide, it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

[star641]

can i ask you how long have you felt like this ,.?
have you gone ,or are you going for help on this ?
are you on meds ?
can i ask you what triggers of the suicidal feelings