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Fear of Hiv after occasional sex
Good morning,
I’m a 20 years old gay boy. In March 11th i had an experience with a 27yo guy. Basically the experience was:
1)oral sex received and given without ejaculation but maybe with precum
2) anal frottage, he was simulating anal sex just pushing His penis against my anus without penetration.
After 11 days, in March 22nd i had Fever in the evening, and my physician gave me antibiotics and i used paracetamole when it was higher than 100F. The Fever lasted only 3 days. Now my temperature is fine. I experienced swallen lymphs on the neck the Day i had Fever and they were painful when touched. Now they’re still a bit swallen but no pain. I’m worried because i think that the could be related to the sexual experience i had. I started worrying just five days After sex because i felt a itchy throat and I thought it was allergy. During the last week I experienced a slight pain in the throat which comes and goes and dermatitis in my beard for a few days and i felt good by only washing it. I was extremely worried, anxiety was the only feeling and I started searching every minute on the net all ov my symptoms. My fear is that when he was simulating anal sex maybe some precum might have got inside. I only felt a pressure, no pain when he was doing this and i’m virgin. I’m terrified that my symptoms are related to hiv. Last week I went to the er because I felt a generalized lymphadenopathy but when I was visited they said I didn’t had anything, just anxiety. I started taking an antidepressant recently (paroxetine) because it’s a bad period not only for this episode. When my fever went off I had some muscular pain when I do certain movements. Still today I have it, but less intense. I don’t know why, maybe is the antidepressant or maybe is something else.
Should I be worried? Are this symptoms related to a possible infection, like Ars? Please help me!
I’m a 20 years old gay boy. In March 11th i had an experience with a 27yo guy. Basically the experience was:
1)oral sex received and given without ejaculation but maybe with precum
2) anal frottage, he was simulating anal sex just pushing His penis against my anus without penetration.
After 11 days, in March 22nd i had Fever in the evening, and my physician gave me antibiotics and i used paracetamole when it was higher than 100F. The Fever lasted only 3 days. Now my temperature is fine. I experienced swallen lymphs on the neck the Day i had Fever and they were painful when touched. Now they’re still a bit swallen but no pain. I’m worried because i think that the could be related to the sexual experience i had. I started worrying just five days After sex because i felt a itchy throat and I thought it was allergy. During the last week I experienced a slight pain in the throat which comes and goes and dermatitis in my beard for a few days and i felt good by only washing it. I was extremely worried, anxiety was the only feeling and I started searching every minute on the net all ov my symptoms. My fear is that when he was simulating anal sex maybe some precum might have got inside. I only felt a pressure, no pain when he was doing this and i’m virgin. I’m terrified that my symptoms are related to hiv. Last week I went to the er because I felt a generalized lymphadenopathy but when I was visited they said I didn’t had anything, just anxiety. I started taking an antidepressant recently (paroxetine) because it’s a bad period not only for this episode. When my fever went off I had some muscular pain when I do certain movements. Still today I have it, but less intense. I don’t know why, maybe is the antidepressant or maybe is something else.
Should I be worried? Are this symptoms related to a possible infection, like Ars? Please help me!
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It is absolutely normal to receive a negative result for a no risk scenario.
It would have been wiser to invest in to a one-on-one session with a counselor because if your are worried about this non risky scenario, this is not the first time you are scared about an irrational fear and it's not going to be the last time either.
The problem seems to be something else, a therapist will help you over come it. Please reach out for that help to address your concern objectively. HIV is not your concern.
It would have been wiser to invest in to a one-on-one session with a counselor because if your are worried about this non risky scenario, this is not the first time you are scared about an irrational fear and it's not going to be the last time either.
The problem seems to be something else, a therapist will help you over come it. Please reach out for that help to address your concern objectively. HIV is not your concern.
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Thank you mike_no, i started psychotherapy recently and we’re starting to work on this things. My fears started when I had those symptoms. Then I started asking myself “maybe he dipped and I didn’t know “ or “maybe some Precum went inside the rectum” in this heavy frottage. I don’t know. I had only 1 anal experience and it was even a partial penetration because it was too painful. I even loose a little of blood the first time, but this time no. I checked with paper if there was some blood and there wasn’t. I only had bad feeling when I was washing my anus with the finger full of soap. What about my symptoms, what could they have been? I’m still scared for the results. Thank you and sorry for my insistence. I’m really anxious and believe me, i’m Having a really bad period.
Keep working with your therapist. You are going to be okay. As your therapist might have already recommended, you need to get off internet forums and online HIV searching right away, it's bad for your mental health.
So you think that I had no risk and my symptoms are not related to Ars or HIV? If yes this would help me to feel better. I was scared for a possible dipping or something else. I’ll try to get off from the internet. My mental health is pretty compromised in this period. I’m sleeping bad, i’m Feeling anxious every time and always with nausea. I think my immune Defences are disturbed by anxiety and depression. A big hug from Italy.
I urge you read my initial response again. You are asking me to repeat.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to hurt you. I’m just anxious for the result and the situation, and I wanted a confirmation. Thank you a lot and sorry again.
You don't have to apologise, I am not hurt. I don't see a point in repeating the same thing, it's going around in circle. Good luck.
Only a one on one with your therapist can help calm your imagination down. No one can provide mental health treatment here.
Thank you AnxiousNoMore for your reply. However my partner took a blood finger prick hiv test at 5 weeks since our encounter. His result was negative. I think that is basically a anticorp test. Do you think that his result could make me feel better. Even if mine is a no risk situation?
I have no idea what will make you feel better since your thinking is irrational and the only science you believe in is your own made up science fiction. You likely need to see the therapist to feel better.
Ok sorry. Maybe i’m Exaggerating. I’m full of anxiety. I’m taking meds (bromazepam) and i’m Still anxious. I’m going to see my therapist soon.
I was uncertain for a possible penetration and that was scaring me.
I was uncertain for a possible penetration and that was scaring me.
Hello,
I just want to thank AnxiousNoMore for the reply’s to my post. I took a 4th gen test at 4weeks after the incident (32 days) and i’m Waiting the result. I hope it will be negative. I’m scared to death because when I was thinking back to the day I had the sexual experience I remembered that he was pushing back and forth his penis against my anus rapidly. I had once in my life a penetrative experience as bottom and I remember that it was very painful. In this case I just only felt the bumps in my butthole, and I remember that they were just a bit annoying but no extreme pain or sensation that he went through the sphincter. Only a couple of times he pushed harder and it was uncomfortable, so I said him to slow down, but again I think there wasn’t penetration as I didn’t felt that pain. However I asked him if he penetrated me just to be sure and he said “Absolutely no, 0 penetration”. I’m still scared because when I had those symptoms I thought they could be related to a Ars. Now i’m Scared to death waiting the results. After the 3 days fever I continued to experience throat discomfort, not properly pain just a itchy and sensible throat, for a week and a half. I don’t know what to think. Is it possible that some or a bit of precum went into the rectum during frottage? Sorry for my repetitiveness but it’s a hard time for me. I forgot saying that my neck lymph nodes went back normal after a week and a half from the fever. Thank you and sorry for my fears, but I can’t explain those symptoms.
I just want to thank AnxiousNoMore for the reply’s to my post. I took a 4th gen test at 4weeks after the incident (32 days) and i’m Waiting the result. I hope it will be negative. I’m scared to death because when I was thinking back to the day I had the sexual experience I remembered that he was pushing back and forth his penis against my anus rapidly. I had once in my life a penetrative experience as bottom and I remember that it was very painful. In this case I just only felt the bumps in my butthole, and I remember that they were just a bit annoying but no extreme pain or sensation that he went through the sphincter. Only a couple of times he pushed harder and it was uncomfortable, so I said him to slow down, but again I think there wasn’t penetration as I didn’t felt that pain. However I asked him if he penetrated me just to be sure and he said “Absolutely no, 0 penetration”. I’m still scared because when I had those symptoms I thought they could be related to a Ars. Now i’m Scared to death waiting the results. After the 3 days fever I continued to experience throat discomfort, not properly pain just a itchy and sensible throat, for a week and a half. I don’t know what to think. Is it possible that some or a bit of precum went into the rectum during frottage? Sorry for my repetitiveness but it’s a hard time for me. I forgot saying that my neck lymph nodes went back normal after a week and a half from the fever. Thank you and sorry for my fears, but I can’t explain those symptoms.
This answers all of your HIV questions, and if you can think of any more just reread about the 3. You had zero risk therefore testing is irrelevant to your situation because you had zero risk. HIV is a fragile virus, which is instantly inactivated in air and also in saliva which means it is effectively dead so it can't infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. It doesn't matter if you and they were actively bleeding or had cuts at the time either because the HIV is effectively dead.
Only 3 adult risks are the following:
1. unprotected penetrating vaginal with a penis
2. unprotected penetrating anal sex with a penis
3. sharing needles that you inject with.
The only way to get HIV is if you did one of the 3. The situation you describe is a long way from any of these 3.
Even with blood, lactation, cuts, rashes, burns, etc the air or the saliva does not allow inactivated virus to infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. Doctors have calculated the risk from what you describe to be less than that of being hit by a meteor, therefore no one will get HIV from what you did in the next 40 years of your life either. The above HIV science is 40 years old and very well established, so no detail that you can add to your encounter will change it from zero risk.
You are best off to stop googling for death cold turkey if you want to relax and get back to your normal life. People cough on your lips and door knobs so flu is to be expected at any time. This shows that you should stop examining your body cold turkey "but when I was visited they said I didn’t had anything, " since you have no medical training and don't know what lymph is supposed to feel like yet you are convinced that you have made a diagnosis of lymph' issues. I really doubt you have muscular movement issues too, but see doc if concerned since this is not an hiv issue.
Relax and move on.
Only 3 adult risks are the following:
1. unprotected penetrating vaginal with a penis
2. unprotected penetrating anal sex with a penis
3. sharing needles that you inject with.
The only way to get HIV is if you did one of the 3. The situation you describe is a long way from any of these 3.
Even with blood, lactation, cuts, rashes, burns, etc the air or the saliva does not allow inactivated virus to infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. Doctors have calculated the risk from what you describe to be less than that of being hit by a meteor, therefore no one will get HIV from what you did in the next 40 years of your life either. The above HIV science is 40 years old and very well established, so no detail that you can add to your encounter will change it from zero risk.
You are best off to stop googling for death cold turkey if you want to relax and get back to your normal life. People cough on your lips and door knobs so flu is to be expected at any time. This shows that you should stop examining your body cold turkey "but when I was visited they said I didn’t had anything, " since you have no medical training and don't know what lymph is supposed to feel like yet you are convinced that you have made a diagnosis of lymph' issues. I really doubt you have muscular movement issues too, but see doc if concerned since this is not an hiv issue.
Relax and move on.
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Thank you for replying me, I know that i’m too much anxious and that’s not good. But when Friday evening I started feeling bad and I had the fever since Sunday I started worrying a lot! The thing that is making me feel better is that you said that my situation is a no risk one. I’m sorry if I look like another hypochondriac who asks the same old question about frontage. But when he was simulating anal sex I felt a little pressure and I started thinking “maybe some precum get inside or maybe he went a little bit inside and touched the anal mucous”. He said me that he tested negative 6 months ago.
Thanks for your patience!
Thanks for your patience!
I rewrote it below to make it clearer but you have to reread the whole thing (mainly because I think you accidentally skipped some of the points before) to find the changes. I hope this helps.
This answers all of your HIV questions, and if you can think of any more just reread about the 3. You had zero risk therefore testing is irrelevant to your situation because you had zero risk. HIV is a fragile virus, which is instantly inactivated in air and also in saliva which means it is effectively dead so it can't infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. It doesn't matter if you and they were actively bleeding or had cuts at the time either because the HIV is effectively dead.
Only 3 adult risks are the following:
1. unprotected penetrating vaginal with a penis
2. unprotected penetrating anal sex with a penis
3. sharing needles that you inject with.
The only way to get HIV is if you did one of the 3. The situation you describe is a long way from any of these 3.
Even with blood, lactation, cuts, rashes, burns, etc the air or the saliva does not allow inactivated virus to infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. Doctors have calculated the risk from what you describe to be less than that of being hit by a meteor, therefore no one will get HIV from what you did in the next 40 years of your life either. The above HIV science is 40 years old and very well established, so no detail that you can add to your encounter will change it from zero risk.
If you didn't have one of the 3 then you are just worrying about your own hiv theory - which is unrealistic for you to think that can become reality since you don't have any medical training in biological research - so you should move on back to your happy life instead.
This answers all of your HIV questions, and if you can think of any more just reread about the 3. You had zero risk therefore testing is irrelevant to your situation because you had zero risk. HIV is a fragile virus, which is instantly inactivated in air and also in saliva which means it is effectively dead so it can't infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. It doesn't matter if you and they were actively bleeding or had cuts at the time either because the HIV is effectively dead.
Only 3 adult risks are the following:
1. unprotected penetrating vaginal with a penis
2. unprotected penetrating anal sex with a penis
3. sharing needles that you inject with.
The only way to get HIV is if you did one of the 3. The situation you describe is a long way from any of these 3.
Even with blood, lactation, cuts, rashes, burns, etc the air or the saliva does not allow inactivated virus to infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. Doctors have calculated the risk from what you describe to be less than that of being hit by a meteor, therefore no one will get HIV from what you did in the next 40 years of your life either. The above HIV science is 40 years old and very well established, so no detail that you can add to your encounter will change it from zero risk.
If you didn't have one of the 3 then you are just worrying about your own hiv theory - which is unrealistic for you to think that can become reality since you don't have any medical training in biological research - so you should move on back to your happy life instead.
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