2 partners since my last HIV test- I am SO STUPID and WORRIED. HELP!

[worriedinthecity]

Hello,

Since testing negative last December, I have had 2 partners. One I know well, and one who was random.
Guy 1: we mutually masturbated each other and grinded naked. I definitely touched his presemen and then my own penis.

Guy 2: the random guy I met on Grindr (the gay iPhone app). he is a flight attendant and said he has a boyfriend but they're open. Age 30. We mutually masturbated, and he touched his penis and then put it in my mouth. He pre came a lot. I then touched his anus while stroking my penis, and he tried to suck me but I said no. I ejaculated on his chest, and then he did.


Am I at risk? I just feel so guilty after these one time hookups, even though Guy number 1 I know well.

Also- is it possible to get HIV from the actual blood test? I got one 3 weeks ago which came out negative (I've never had anal or vaginal sex period) but now I am getting sick with a fever!

[worriedinthecity]

Both guys told me they were negative, and the flight attendant is from sweden but said he never engages in bareback sex and is always safe.

thoughts?

[LIZZIE LOU]

hiv is transmitted through...
unprotected vaginal / anal intercourse
sharing iv drug works
mother to child

hiv transmission requires penetration of an unprotected penis INSIDE a vagina / rectum.   it doesnt take place outside the body.

nothing that you've described put you at risk for contracting hiv.

[worriedinthecity]

And there is no way I could have gotten it from a blood test for HIV, right?

Also- at one point the flight attendant made me smell his underwear (weird, I know) and I couldn't see for 2 seconds. What if he made me put my penis in his anus? Would I have known?

I am so paranoid and OCD worried!

[LIZZIE LOU]

NO

YES

[worriedinthecity]

So I do not need testing Lizzie?

[LIZZIE LOU]

no risk = no test

[nursegirl6572]

You need to seek professional help for your anxiety and irrational fears...nothing you have described has put you at risk!

[worriedinthecity]

The lights were out which is making me think- what if he was lying when he said he was negative?

what if he had karposi's sarcoma and i couldn't see them? I thought I saw dark spots on his skin.

Also- what if my penis accidentally slipped in to his anus since the lights were off???

[worriedinthecity]

and do you think he was being truthful when he said he never has bareback sex and is negative? he assured me he was not infected with any diseases but he did touch his penis and then mine and my mouth!

[RainLover71]

A penis doesn't accidently slip into an anus without both parties not knowing about it.Looking at a persons skin is not going to tell you if they  have Hiv or not.Your thoughts have become so irrational that you need to seek some therapy and I mean this with all due respect.

[worriedinthecity]

My OCD has gotten out of control, hasn't it?

Maybe I just feel bad about having a random sex partner and am projecting this to guilt, and hence to HIV?

[RainLover71]

I think you just said it perfectly.We have an OCD community forum here at medhelp with some excellent answerers able to give you great advice.Also,zamzam is an excellent person to speak to on the subject of OCD.

[worriedinthecity]

is hiv a common phobia for us who suffer from ocd?

[RainLover71]

Yes,extremely common and it is manifested by fear.Once you understand the facts about how Hiv is transmitted and how it's not your OCD will improve.I blame out of date information on many Hiv websites for this fear and confusion.Making claims about modes of transmission without the facts to back it up.Sad when you really think about it.

[worriedinthecity]

It is.

So really, since I have never had anal sex period (and don't use drug needles), there is NO WAY I can have HIV?

[RainLover71]

If you have never had unprotected penetrative vaginal or anal sex or shared iv drug works then you don't have Hiv.That simple.

[worriedinthecity]

Never done those- gay male here yet never anal sex.

Fingering? Yes.

Now do I need another PCRDNA test?

[RainLover71]

Then you never had a risk and NO you don't need to test.You wasted your money having the first test for nothing.

[worriedinthecity]

OK- so I should just move on?

Can I ask- then why does it seem so many people still get HIV? Do gay men still really have anal sex unprotected with random men? I know I have had one night stands but NEVER anal sex!

So- should I just move on? Does HIV only happen when, sexually speaking, it's inside the body- not out? So no penetration, no risk?

[RainLover71]

Yes,you should move on and most of those people infected with Hiv are from African nations where protection wasn't used and sadly lack of education on safe sex aswell.

[worriedinthecity]

So the count is up to 3 men. The recent partner is 31, says he is clean. We had oral sex both ways- I gave it to him, with my chapped lips still. I also fingered his anus and he fingered mine briefly. No anal sex, of course. I rubbed his semen with my hand, that was chapped from the cold weather.

How long do I have to wait to get tested from my 3 partners in the past month?

[worriedinthecity]

Also-

Is this a risk?

Giving oral sex to a man AFTER he has ejaculated, and presumably has traces of his semen on his penis- OR, if he touches your anus with a drop of his own semen after he has ejaculated?

PLEASE ADVISE :(

[worriedinthecity]

???

[Teak]

No you did not have a risk by giving oral sex.
HIV is unable to reproduce outside its living host (unlike many bacteria or fungi, which may do so under suitable conditions), except under laboratory conditions; therefore, it does not spread or maintain infectiousness outside its host.