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20 PVCs in a row
after wearing the halter monitor the doctor was telling me at one point i had 20 pvcs in a row.. for about 12 seconds. i guess this is what he is most concerned about. reading online says over 3 is potentially dangerous.
i'm not really sure if this means i can drop at any minute?? i'm having some anxiety tonight thinking about it (he just told me today). i don't have any history of heart problems, but was reading these can come out of nowhere
i'm not really sure if this means i can drop at any minute?? i'm having some anxiety tonight thinking about it (he just told me today). i don't have any history of heart problems, but was reading these can come out of nowhere
Connie, question for you - what's a long period of time? I could never get my dr to pinpoint what a "very short period" of time was, I wish he had just said 1 mth, 3mths, 1 year - really anything.
and Yea! I know what NSR is lol nsvt, vt, svt I'm still confused over - but I'll get over that, I think I ask too many questions sometimes.
That's amazing btw 6 years with no recurrences and no problems. I hope I do as well as you with it, I wonder what the difference is that made yours such a success, but some others recur. What's your secret or what triggered yours that you got rid of?
I'm with JKFrench, what is it with some doctors...you have some that rush you through and into surgery like now, within a few days, then you have others like the one in 2007 that never told me a thing
and Yea! I know what NSR is lol nsvt, vt, svt I'm still confused over - but I'll get over that, I think I ask too many questions sometimes.
That's amazing btw 6 years with no recurrences and no problems. I hope I do as well as you with it, I wonder what the difference is that made yours such a success, but some others recur. What's your secret or what triggered yours that you got rid of?
I'm with JKFrench, what is it with some doctors...you have some that rush you through and into surgery like now, within a few days, then you have others like the one in 2007 that never told me a thing
Wisconsin, your explanations are right on!! Thank you for clearing up the differences with the acronyms : )
I'm one of those people who lived for years with NSVT....I was in bigeminy, trigeminy, had couplets, triplets, nsvt, and I did just fine for many years. Even with over 20,000 PVCs on 24-hour Holter, benign : )
I did eventually develop "PVC-induced cardiomyopathy," a rare occurrence in the setting of very frequent PVCs over a long period of time. The good news is, it was curable and I am doing well and in NSR!!! It has been about 6 years since the ablations, and lub-dub, lub-dub, lub-dub....Ahhh, life is good : )
I'm one of those people who lived for years with NSVT....I was in bigeminy, trigeminy, had couplets, triplets, nsvt, and I did just fine for many years. Even with over 20,000 PVCs on 24-hour Holter, benign : )
I did eventually develop "PVC-induced cardiomyopathy," a rare occurrence in the setting of very frequent PVCs over a long period of time. The good news is, it was curable and I am doing well and in NSR!!! It has been about 6 years since the ablations, and lub-dub, lub-dub, lub-dub....Ahhh, life is good : )
sorry to hijack your thread, but since part of this has been brought up in my rambling misconceptions, I wanted to make sure we cleared this up
Ok, I found what I was looking for with the heart rate - (holter monitor)
The predominant rhythm is sinus with ventricular bigeminy and trigeminy and an average rate of 89 beats per minute.
Minimum heart rate of 67 and a maximum heart rate of 131 beats per minute.
The longest run was 3 beats long and the fastest run was at 170 beats per minute at 15:51 and 5:44 respectively.
I have an average of 89 bpm x 1440 minutes in the day = 128,160 in a 24 hour period
Out of those 128,160 average beats, 54,181 are PVC's - 73,979 normal beats
So this would mean I have 51.4 normal beats; 37.6 abnormal beats per minute, so roughly 42% - I always knew I was "abnormal" :P
Does that sound right now? It would be good to let others know if that's how to do it.
Wonder how to start a sticky thread for faq's, what's "normal" what's not, what CAN be dangerous, what usually isn't, what to do about symptoms, "normal" rates etc?
I know those were and still are the majority of my questions when I was diagnosed.
Ok, I found what I was looking for with the heart rate - (holter monitor)
The predominant rhythm is sinus with ventricular bigeminy and trigeminy and an average rate of 89 beats per minute.
Minimum heart rate of 67 and a maximum heart rate of 131 beats per minute.
The longest run was 3 beats long and the fastest run was at 170 beats per minute at 15:51 and 5:44 respectively.
I have an average of 89 bpm x 1440 minutes in the day = 128,160 in a 24 hour period
Out of those 128,160 average beats, 54,181 are PVC's - 73,979 normal beats
So this would mean I have 51.4 normal beats; 37.6 abnormal beats per minute, so roughly 42% - I always knew I was "abnormal" :P
Does that sound right now? It would be good to let others know if that's how to do it.
Wonder how to start a sticky thread for faq's, what's "normal" what's not, what CAN be dangerous, what usually isn't, what to do about symptoms, "normal" rates etc?
I know those were and still are the majority of my questions when I was diagnosed.
Thanks of being more clear than my doctor!
I'm going today for the nuclear stress test. he's making sure the first stress test with ultrasound didn't miss anything
On the prescription form my cardiologist wrote some scribble but I can make out "Flutter (Vent Tach) at Rest"
I'm not clear if it's sustained or not. The only thing I remember his saying was that one did last 12 seconds, so from definition not sustained possibly.
I'm going today for the nuclear stress test. he's making sure the first stress test with ultrasound didn't miss anything
On the prescription form my cardiologist wrote some scribble but I can make out "Flutter (Vent Tach) at Rest"
I'm not clear if it's sustained or not. The only thing I remember his saying was that one did last 12 seconds, so from definition not sustained possibly.
I think the operative word here is "can." It CAN be dangerous. Sometimes it's not. More than three (which technically makes it NSVT) warrants investigation to see if it is dangerous or not. I've read posts from people here that have been living with benign NSVT for years.
So, yeah. It CAN be dangerous. Might be dangerous. Possible to be dangerous (not irreparable, by the way - just dangerous. possibly). Seeing a cardiologist is going to be the best way to determine if it is or it isn't.
BTW, 20 PVCs in a row, by definition, is going to considered non-sustained, because it's only 20 (presumably those 20 take place in less than 30 seconds, which is the threshold between non-sustained and sustained VT). If it were, say, 100 PVCs in a row, that's probably sustained VT (just called VT), because it probably is lasting more than 30 seconds - and yeah, that's dangerous. It can be treated, cured too - but it's not something you can just cross your fingers on and hope for the best. You have to see a doctor and get things sorted out.
So, yeah. It CAN be dangerous. Might be dangerous. Possible to be dangerous (not irreparable, by the way - just dangerous. possibly). Seeing a cardiologist is going to be the best way to determine if it is or it isn't.
BTW, 20 PVCs in a row, by definition, is going to considered non-sustained, because it's only 20 (presumably those 20 take place in less than 30 seconds, which is the threshold between non-sustained and sustained VT). If it were, say, 100 PVCs in a row, that's probably sustained VT (just called VT), because it probably is lasting more than 30 seconds - and yeah, that's dangerous. It can be treated, cured too - but it's not something you can just cross your fingers on and hope for the best. You have to see a doctor and get things sorted out.
Hmmm wonder if my flexible spending plan would cover the cost :P
future readers get confused? what about current readers lol thanks for explaining though, Im going to pull out the tests again and look - just to make sure I copied word for word
188,000 heartbeats, average heart rate is 100,000 per 24/ it's no wonder I'm tired.... but I do think you brought up some great points and things I'm going to pinpoint my EP down about when he gets back in the country.
back to the orginal topic now - can 20 pvcs in a row be dangerous? sustained or nonsustained? I read 3 in a row was dangerous too, wonder why the differences?
future readers get confused? what about current readers lol thanks for explaining though, Im going to pull out the tests again and look - just to make sure I copied word for word
188,000 heartbeats, average heart rate is 100,000 per 24/ it's no wonder I'm tired.... but I do think you brought up some great points and things I'm going to pinpoint my EP down about when he gets back in the country.
back to the orginal topic now - can 20 pvcs in a row be dangerous? sustained or nonsustained? I read 3 in a row was dangerous too, wonder why the differences?
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