burning lips at night....but no sores....very depressed...

[soworried79]

This is my story....I was dating this lady for about three months....since the very beginning ive asked her if she took a herpes test and said yes ....right after her last long term relationship. and have not been with anyone else after that just me.....and takes all the tests  including a herpes test every 6 months....we had intercourse numerous times....every time protected....i never did oral on her until the end of our relationship...which i regret for the symptoms i felt and feeling till now....at first when i did it....i felt this burning sensation all over my lips so i stopped giving her oral ...something i never felt before giving oral to my past relationships....i told her about it there and then and she was like shocked...so i went to the bathroom to wash up my lips with water....ok...then like two days later i got this white blister under my tongue....on the bottom of that elastic part on one of the little gland type flesh...hurt a bit...but i do remember having that same thing one time with my past relationship which was years ago on the same spot after oral....so i thought i was a bacterial infection that i got from giving oral sex....it cleared in a day or so....sooo.....we didnt speak about a week...so after that 9 days later it was a hot day i was out....and started feeling this tingling burning on my lips..which was june 1st....now its june 21st....and still feel this but mostly at night...i have not have a sore or blister.....all this time ive been so worried ive gotten infected....because of this ive had nights with little sleep and feeling depressed, looking up information on this....been to the ER, they checked me out they said they dont see anything that would resemble it that it was anxiety related.......i went to another doctor to get a check up and took a few STDs test except HIV and herpes..they didn't have a herpes test there....i'm really hoping its something else....because im been really depressed about this.....now the tingling comes and it goes...in the morning im fine if i rested well....afternoon sometimes....but the burning starts at night around 10:pm. and last a while but doesnt look sore at all...i put a bit of promegranate lip balm eat a bit of yogurt kinda helps then it makes it go away and it stops... but sometimes crawling or tingling happens but minor and goes away....im not sure if it could be an infection of some kind lasting this long or what...please help im so worried what could it be,,,,,ive read other people with the same problem lasting this long these symptoms and no sores....not sure if there's ever stopped or what happened to them....but most were concluded with that they were very obsessive of thoughts this like i am.......sigh

[gregorsamsa]

His original description is almost exactly what I recently experienced, except that the symptoms didn't start immediately after performing oral sex but over the ensuing days. Crawling feeling on the lips, feeling tender or sore at times...this went on for about two weeks, then nothing for a week or so. Then suddenly some very small bumps appeared on the top left side of my lips. I first noticed them because of a slight discomfort when flossing, when the floss would rub against them. A week later I began experiencing a burning sensation in the same area. The duration and intensity of the burning would vary but it was a daily occurrence. Based on what I read I assumed this was an early stage cold sore and began applying an over-the-counter cold sore cream regularly hoping to minimize the blister. Over the next month the bumps never changed or grew into a full-blown blister. After a couple weeks the burning started to lessen and I stopped using the cream. Eventually the burning went away completely, but only after another couple weeks. Meanwhile, the small bumps remained. A few days later I saw a doctor at a walk-in clinic. He examined them and casually remarked that it was probably a cold sore. He didn't recommend medication at this point. Nor did he suggest a herpes test. It had been exactly two months since the encounter involving oral sex, so even if I had a test it might have been too soon to get an accurate result. A day or two later the burning sensation started up again (perhaps brought on a lack of sleep the night before seeing the doctor). I had been taking a daily 1000mg dose of lysine for a few weeks and decided to double it. The doctor suggested that supplements like this might strengthen the virus and create more severe outbreaks, but I found the opposite to be true: the burning sensation was much less severe and went away completely after about a week. The woman I was with disclosed she had herpes before our first encounter. She waited until the last possible second to tell me and as I processed the news she began filling me with all kinds of reassurances that couldn't help but influence my decision. At the time I knew very little about HSV other than the negative culture stigma that surrounds it. I can't remember which type she said she had, but she did say her outbreaks occurred at a spot on her lower back, which leads me to assume it was type-2 (we're no longer in contact so I can't confirm). She told me she'd had it for many years and took daily suppression medication and that she'd only passed it on to one other partner, many years earlier, before she was on medication, and then it only happened because of a broken condom.  

[Helper01]

Maybe you have a light case "burning mouth syndrome" ?

I once made out with a girl who had really really bad breath... after that it seems like I have her same breath in the morning... maybe I just never noticed my morning breath... my lips also burn in the morning for a bit then it goes away... IDK...  You can worry yourself to death or you can just get over it. Start eating healthy and exercising and that might help. Also take a two day fast where you don't eat and only drink water. Just do one day if two days is too much. They say if you go two or three days it can restart your immune system and maybe that will get rid of it. Anyway, just advice, don't do anything you are not comfortable with and don't starve to death either.

[Myciyah325]

I have herpes 1and 2 my lips burn and have been burning for months and the knumming does it ever stop I'm so tired will I ever get some relieve

[Quiet_One]

Same symptom. Extremely dried lips.  Except inside mouth is red purpleish under tongue  With what look like white-ish pimples. 2 weeks today haven't had any blisters/soars on lips but I feel like inside of mouth I have them. They don't hurt! I just know their their. Hopefully u get this message and maybe let us know what happen...

[ccooiikk]

i get this to, its a mild sun burn on your lips... in the winter it can get worse with winter wind burn, use lip chap constantly then viola! I promise!

[Wastedfilm]

Stress and anxiety can do some weird things to your body. Kind of like a phantom pregnancy. Its all psychological.
You feel symptoms because you're stressed and anxious about it and you are more focused on it now than you were before the encounter... So you are going to notice everything because its magnified.

Its all in your head guys. Usually, you will get symptoms (i.e. a massive cold sore for first outbreak) between 2-20 days post exposure. If you happen to be asymptomatic then you wont be feeling anything at all. No tingles, no itchiness, no burning, no pain.

But to put your mind at ease test 12 weeks post exposure to know for sure. For now... Be glad you haven't had any blisters.. Coming from a person who has been getting them their whole life.  

[rachelhstarr]

I have the same symptoms too it's off and on and above my left lips is like a dry feeling just in one spot I refers neg for herpes 1 And 2 but  taking another  test  in 3 weeks it's been 26 days since my in counter I'm really scared and I have no sores either

[clide9]

I am also having the same problem. Happened after I kissed someone. Please help!

[Helpmeoutasap]

I'm having the same symptoms. Just wondering if you ever found a solution to this?

[loril1973]

I have been reading you thread and I feel like I wrote it! The burning lips, the crawling sensations, ditching a dentist appointment, obsessed over this but no sores. I know it's been four months now so I would love to know how you're doing
any symptoms???

[soworried79]

my stomach feels full of dread....

[soworried79]

thanks grace, im still distraught about all this....and worried....not sure what it could be....sigh i need answers....its still affecting my sleep and life...i cant even enjoy a good movie at home...i lose interest.....i dont know how these symptoms will last....tomorrow will be two months since the oral encounter....ive read people having symptoms and stories like mine maybe for 5 years and doctors still cant find out......i know these symptoms can be anything..maybe a deficiency or some sort...but never had them before..it all adds up to oral sex....and in my mind i think its herpes and in the future its what ill be living with..if they ever surface i try to keep the symptoms under control with certain remedies but...im worried im contagious when the tingles and soreness some pain feelings come and go....because the way it feels....like i said i got my follow-up general doctors appointment today...going to ask her if she give me a referral for a MRI scan or specialist.....im becoming a Hypochondriac....and im too anxious for my to go to my therapist as well next week

[gracefromHHP]

best of luck :)

[soworried79]

one thing i notice that every time im in the sun on a very very hot day a different part of my lips will hurt inside but happens not right away i could be in the sun for a while maybe hours later....or so i would feel it....for the rest of the day will have discomfort of that though and on off maybe for 1/2  hour then it goes out the night including the soreness inside feeling i had this again a while ago then went away as im writing.....i mentioned the discomforts im having with my lips to the dentist i saw today  she said thats because of my teeth and gum problems im having...so maybe that could be the cause....im trying to rule out so many things...bal palsy, or burning mouth syndrome....gotta see my general doc this thursday also for a follow up.. appointment....will mention this to her again....maybe she can recommend some specialist this time

[soworried79]

Hi, Grace... i just got back...from the intake...and paper work...and talked to a social worker...they scheduled me a therapist for next week. for  wed. felt a little something on my lower lip for like 20 seconds on the opposite side during the session even mentioned it to the social worker then it went away...today was a very sunny and hot day....was on my bike.afteer the  session..went to a  dentist for brief moment to check my tooth then went to eat something then the lip was hurting a bit more....maybe less than an half hour i didnt keep count maybe less  this discomfort that got me very depressed....i'm pretty sure it was the sun or maybe the heat not sure which....now i'm back home.. inside drank water and a some green juice....the pain subsided very much that eased my mind..oh and my black dot on my tongue disappeared which i was glad...i did have a decent sleep last night at least 6 hours...and this morning i woke up with no discomfort....that kinda made me start my day off well.....till the afternoon is when i got upset....but...i am currently taking some good krill oil in the morning it seems to be controlling the pain or other symptoms quite well almost through the day...so im guessing its some kind of inflammation or free radicals going on in there....i hope so....but i might still go and see some kind of neurologist or internist...

[gracefromHHP]

anything you feel for 5-10 minutes isn't herpes related.  

when is your appointment with the therapist?

[soworried79]

yeah i have talked to a few friends not family i don't want to scare them....told a close friend of mine...a few times about it.....he reminds me it should of happened by now....and reminding me what i told him that if the girl i was with said the man shes with now isn't complaining or any of her exs and i was negative.then i should be ok... it should be something else....but i'm so afraid how long is this gonna continue or is it gonna get worse....i read another lady poster of a few years back....she had similar symptoms tingling especially the soreness feeling more so at night and she took benedryl and symptoms stopped....thinking to get some to see if that works reading that clams me down a bit....sometimes i could be hours without feeling nothing....then i feel something for 5-10min and goes away or fades away that feeling sometimes makes me feel anxious or paniky... right now some soreness feeling inside but seems to be fading im thinking maybe its burning mouth syndrome..BMS i hope so cause at night my mouth feels acidy and hot and i drink allot of water to ease that a bit...eat yogurt that doesnt help much.......now i woke up this morning with a black spot on my right side of my tongue...looks like a small poppy seed...lymph node was bothering a little but calmed down now....sometimes i cant concentrate...now 5 days from now will be 8 weeks since oral contact...which was may 19....will be Jul 19......a day before my dad passed away and my moms had and operataion on her hip.....i hope nothing bad happens to me that day....sometimes i feel i need to talk to others....to ease my mind....but i just want this to go away....and not thinking what it could be....or what im having inside my body...

[gracefromHHP]

are you talking to friends and family to help you through this too?

[soworried79]

i cant sleep grace....some nights are better than others with at least 4 hours but this night i couldn't for nothing....my mind is racing...

[soworried79]

Writing does help makes me calm....don't feel nothing right this second....

[soworried79]

its gets to a point at times, that i still wonder what it could be....i dont have chapped lips, there are no sores of any kind my mouth and lips look normal as the i was told by a few doctors....and its hard to describe it i dont thin its mental but coincidently there are times i think about it and the tingling starts briefly but goes away....the tingling could be sometimes on the lips, sometimes above the lip in the mustache area to the left...but always in the same spots...sometimes pain below my lower lip i feel a line of swelling but that particular symptom is mainly at night but have it during the day on a hot day outside....they come and go....i could be hours without it or maybe almost a full day without it especially when taking a immune booster then i think it curing me or making it go away...then in my mind im thinking its gone....im free...a sign of hope...if maybe i eat something i dont think about it much.....then later on it happens again....maybe in the morning i wake up happens maybe minor discomfort....or in the middle of sleeping...if its an infection or bacteria i wish i knew what could be make it disappear....i mean ive never had this before....only that one time after giving her oral sex....i remember the first time it felt was like a "crawly feeling" on my lips..then i went to wash off my lips with water....it was immediately after oral sex like a minute or two that i stopped doing it....that scared me to death....then after  9 days later is when i started feeling tingles on the actual lips on the lower left lip and that where i feel pain at times when in the sun on my bike.....so i dont know what to think....was it activated when in the sun....i did go through a period of stress because of the break up during those 9 days but no symptoms....i hope there is some medicinal, or herbal supplement to end this....idk what to think at this point.....when i see a sigh a relief and hope is when i get some sleep and sometimes i do when i take something to make me well like a supplement of some kind....will i ever be able to kiss with these symptoms...i know one thing for sure i will "never" do oral again.....or maybe sex for that matter for long time.....the world is scary too many diseases, infections.....i was all well before this and am real health nut.....but what depresses me is that i have no one now....i want a future with someone...and maybe a child before i die....i hope i can accomplish this one day....and be well....anyway grace thanks for always getting back at my post.....im just so desperate for an answer and solution....i truly believe there is one were created to heal...

[soworried79]

yes i'm suppose to see a therapist on Monday....though i wish i didnt have to

[gracefromHHP]

talking to a professional for your anxiety is usually a good idea :)  did you make that appointment yet?

so many things can cause these issues. dry, chapped lips as well as fungal infections of the lips are common.  ingrown hairs and folliculitis from shaving the face are also common.  continue to follow up with the dermatologist as needed.

[soworried79]

another concern is.....since i have these symptoms....could i be contagious? i live with my sick bedridden moms which i take care of....i wouldn't want her to suffer...she suffering enough....im reaping what i sowed....i shoulda stayed home that day. and broke the relatiionship sooner...all this ordeal and stress woulda of never happened....

[soworried79]

Well just to update my post, i did test for herpes 1 and 2....and test came back negative two days ago....it is a partial relief of mind....but what concerns me i still have the burning sensation like on top of my lip, tingling sometimes and slight inflammation in another part of my lip...more so at night not sure if its what i eat or sun exposure doing the day or stress, or not enough sleep that affects it more later or during the day...at times it not so severe and at times it feels it....i did wake up yesterday with a white pimple under my nose...had to shave my mustache a bit to see it..no groups of it others around it...but does feel sore in that area but doesnt look it...and there was a few very very light sore spot on the other side but went today and the pimple seems like its healing...looks like the same pimples i had last week down on the back o f my legs in the buttox.....i asked to be checked out down below near my inner buttocks twice...once in the ER...then the day to get my results with the few white pimples i saw on one side and the other both doctors indicated it wasnt herpes related just ingrown hairs or rash.....i still have little sleep at night waking in the middle of the night...but because of the oral symptoms i have....thinking i still may have it.....the symptoms come and go through out the day sometimes they do last a while....i was suggested it may be mental......but im still not convinced....i just wish this would go away....i may see a nuerologist or an internist specialist....idk....still depressed....thinking how my life will change....knowing one day it may happen i might get an outbreak or this will never go away.or never be able to kiss passionately again with fear of infecting someone...and i will never have my dreams happen just for one careless mistake i did upon impulse and pressure....i feel like my social life is over....i also need to get my tooth pulled and afraid to do so because of the risk of a possible break out due what i read that if they put my mouth to sleep it may cause that....feeling.i am cursed....gonna see in a few days a shrink cause its affecting me allot....there must be cure for this problem....the more i read online about this causes me more anxiety....theres gotta be a solution....