I got my IGENEX pack

[nutrinut_bob]

And I saw the LLMD for the first time, fairly knowledgable, she ought to be, she and two of her children also have it.  She has three kids, the two that are Lyme afflicted are also autistic.  In looking back, I guess one could say whatever I got made me that way too, but mildly so.  Monday, I'll be taking my pack to the local hospital to get the blood drawn.  In the meantime, I have something else to deal with.  Recently I noticed my calf moving, wasn't my muscle either!  Seems when I last visited a cousin who has too many cats, and too little time to empty the litter box as often as he should, I contracted some feline hookworm larvae!  They can't mature in a human and become blood suckers, but they move around a lot.  They'd gotten into my lymphatic system!  They were well fed as I contracted them between two major die offs I had, and bacteria, I found, is their natural food while in their larval stage.  In a way, it appears they may have been helpful in clearing some congestion in my lymphatic system.  The LLMD said it isn't unusual for Lyme patients to have helminths of various sorts.  but I think they've outlived their usefulness, time for them to go!

[nutrinut_bob]

Your blessing was received.  The bigger hammer I referred to above was some stronger medication, Ivermectin.  Reasoning that the adult females couldn't produce anymore infective larva if they were paralyzed (that's how the medication works), I took a dose.  Seemed to paralyze most all that were in my gut.  I  layed down with my knees bent, to trap the wigglers that were in my calves.  Around midnight in the lower part of my colon, near my anus (hope there's no sensitive sorts here) the autoinfect cycle kicked in and suddenly I had another brood milling about my buttocks.  So I stood up and let the weight of the paralyzed ones above force them into my calves also.  Took a larger dose of Ivermectin and resumed the knees up, on my back position.  Now all that were trapped in my calves were very agitated, they wanted out!  After waiting around an hour for the Ivermectin to be absorbed, I obliged them.  I elevated my legs to make sure as many as possible drained out.  Stupid worms, they had nowhere to go, all they could do was run into those already paralyzed or dead.  Wasn't long, they suffered the same fate!  Where there's a will there's a way, as they say.  No way I'm packing any little vermin for the rest of my life.  Knowing, and understanding my enemy was key to my success, as it will be for those of you combating Lyme.  To make sure, I'll continue on the less toxic medication for several days, probably unnecessary, but if just one of them is left alive it can start the whole cycle again.  I'll pass.  You know, when I was a kid, from time to time, mother wormed us, we didn't have to have any visible signs, sometimes, there are none.  Folks don't do that anymore, as we know, in many cases, that which is not visible can do untold harm.  Most interesting part of my treatment, enough Ivermectin to dose a 1250lb horse cost me $3.29, on sale.  Compare that to the online pharmacy of nearly $50 for 4 tablets which approximate the dosage I took.  No I don't recommend vet meds for everybody, but one does what he has to do!  Let's hope the end of my threads, is the end of this thread!

[drsdonthelp]

What else can be done for you?? Holy Cow, I don't think I would be able to deal with that, God Bless You!!

Pam

[nutrinut_bob]

Ah crud!  I thought I had them, then it all started again.  I coughed some up, not hookworms, threadworms of the feline variety.  Guess what?  They have an autoinfect cycle!  There are people who have had them for over 65 years!  Gotta get a bigger hammer, right after I get back from kicking my lazy cousin in the rear!  Some of you here have reported your heart going crazy when you lie down.  Ever been checked for worms?  They run right through your lungs and heart on their way to your trachea, hoping to be swallowed again.

[nutrinut_bob]

Well, it appears I wont have to administer the coup de grâce.  That's good, I'm not into needles  A lot more died last night and this morning, just a few strays to round up by staying on the dewormer a couple more days. Feels like slug slime, slowly sliding down my back, as I'm finally up and about.  They didn't seem to be doing a whole lot of harm, but the potential was there.  Once cleared out of my system,  I may find they did me some good by eating the debris left by the massive bacterial die off.  All things happen for a reason....Could be a novel approach to clearing ones lymphatic system if a smaller quantity of the larvae were used.

[nutrinut_bob]

Lord took a lot from me some time ago Pam, during an encephalopathy, but he left me the scientific part of my mind.  It can be a little crude at times though.  By using oral doses of veterinary medicine, I can tell these things are slower, and less numerous than what they were a week ago.  Here's the crude part:  I got em down, now's the time to stomp on their little faces.  Hate to do it but I'm going to inject some of the vet meds on top of them while they're sleeping down in my calves tmrw.  I have to do something, I've got no insurance, and in the end after charging me an arm and a leg for unnecessary testing, the Doctors would give me the same meds at 10x the cost.  The little worms don't go to sleep until about 4 am, and I've had all of them I can take!  I have only 5 weeks of unemployment left, and I'll need most of that money to move back to mom and dad's.  Off to Rural King, my medicine cabinet, in the morning!

[drsdonthelp]

Madonda Mia!! I cannot imagine actually seeing a floater that resembles a
a trasparent worm.. I dont blame you or anyone else for that matter to feel "looney" I get it!! I think I would freak out!!

My goodness, I feel  for you Bob!
Pam

[nutrinut_bob]

Yea, everyone needs a laugh every now and then.  But it is serious, there are some who theorize that many mental health issues in people are brought about by infection with various spirochetes, no doubt our little friends would be included in that group.

In other news, I've been able to pretty much figure out the species of the little worms.  Ancylostoma braziliense, first discovered in cats and dogs in Rio de Janeiro in 1910, they didn't make their way to Cuba, or weren't noted there until the 1970s.  Their larval form have more of an epidermal tunneling ability through dog skin than some of their relatives.  With all the die off in my legs and buttocks at the time they got in me, they didn't have far to go to reach the lymphatic system as my skin was really stretched.  And once there, they were well fed, so well fed that they have exceeded their "in the wild" life expectancy of a month or so, tenfold!  They've got to go as they're getting up to my eyes and ears now.  Yesterday I saw an unusual floater, a prism effect as one of their semi-transparent bodies came into my visual field.  I had noted the effect a couple times recently, now I understand what's behind it.

[drsdonthelp]

LOL, I have heard of those rooms!! LOL You are funny!! :)

[TheLightSeeker]

Hey Bob.
I love your sense of humor!
Too bad you can't afford the complete Lyme and co-infection panel.
I understand it costs a small fortune.
Up here in Canada we may have health insurance but- tragically- extremely few LLMDs-poor them as they have to work incognito. And no Labs that can handle anything like Lyme or Mycoplasmas. So much for free medicare.
Do you now anything about the Bowen rapid identification of Borrelia Burgdoferi? Also called Bowen Q-RiBb antigen test.
What herbal protocol are you using? Is it helping you so far?
Wishing you well.
Niko

[nutrinut_bob]

Thanks for the wishes, due to limited funding, I'm only getting the IgGM and IgG western blots for Lyme.  Based on research I've done into coinfections, I don't have any doubt that I have, or have had, some of them.  However my herbal antibiotic is pretty broad spectrum and should deal with all of the micro-vermin in the same manner.   I just need to get down to the root of the problem.  I hate watching these worms move around under my skin!  No doubt if I approached the medical community I'd be diagnosed with delusional parasitosis.  I'm so glad I stayed away from them!  I hear ringing where there is none, I see things floating where there's nothing, now my skin is crawling.  Thank God it isn't the 1940s or 50s.  They had nice rooms for us back then though, nice quiet places, generally up on a hill!  LOL!

[drsdonthelp]

That's great that you got your kit!!! Good luck, and I hope you get your answers too!! It is an amazing feeling to know what you are finally dealing with! I hope your tests give you the answers you are looking for!!

big hugs,
Pam