It's methylation problem.Read about 5 types of methylation problems-undermethylation,overmethylation,copper overload,pyrrole disorder,heavy metal toxins overload.We need balanced methylation and that's why is so hard.We are out of balance.When you get balanced you gotta control this balance.
I know how you feel because I have suffered for more than 45 years. I have a family and a wife that loves me.
You have a family that loves and supports you, you just have to find out how to control this disease or whatever it is.
We will overcome this PATM but we just have to be patient and let modern medicine catch-up.
I personally believe it is in the gut. Most health issues start in the intestines.
You have to do your part and avoid food that amplifies PATM.
Don’t ever forget that God loves you.
I hope your doing fine.
The only strange thing that I have found out about my PATM is that it travels through telephones whether it’s land lines or wireless. It’s the weirdest thing. People start to cough and sneeze on the other line. Is that instant enough?
Other PATM’ers have mentioned this but didn’t believe until I put it to the test. I went a step further and used speakerphone and other people still had allergic reactions.
Somebody here mentioned that it could be related to sound vibrations coming from my voice which is a real possibility. Just don’t know..... there are so many variations of PATM that it is overwhelming.
Good luck with methylation process. I looked all that stuff up and I just don’t have most of those symptoms.
Has anyone tried NAC. on an empty stomach in the am every other day??
If so --- did it help?
I do not know why we keep going back and forth on the subject, I read the writings and I see that they are still in it as in a revolving sphere, since in the previous writings it was mentioned that the antibiotics caused alterations and it is something obvious that causes intestinal alterations if it is used indiscriminately, no doctor will prescribe an antibiotic for you, the strongest antibiotics are used to eliminate cancer and other problems such as AIDS, for example, which consume as many stronger and stronger antibiotics fall or succumb to genetic alterations as for example, hair loss, malnutrition, diseases, etc., but, I wonder, has any PATMer already died of any disease contracted due to PATM? Well, according to my analysis; nobody died except that some opted or decided to commit suicide. To have; You or the majority who are here in the forum, seems to have abused antibiotics, or not? Because I read comments from previous years and I see that they constantly say candid candida or H pylori or some alteration of the intestinal flora, etc but that you yourself abused antibiotics, some even took high potential concentration extractions, So, why do you now blame antibiotics? If you abuse them themselves without doctors prescribing them? Where is the logic? I said from the beginning that they take antibiotics without the guidance of a doctor, I understand the desperation, but you also have to know how to deal with the problem, I am not a doctor but I know that I can not ingest antibiotics like that, let alone abuse it. , also this with vitamins or other supplements that also generate intestinal stability in the face of abuse of consumption, now you say that the cause would be the antibiotic? It may or may not be, we do not know for sure, and we will not know if we do not seriously investigate it, at least with the basic logic.
There are so many hypotheses that the own seems incredible, and just knowing that the doctor does not recognize, worse yet they say it is a mental problem, in itself, this generates certain attitudes and feelings ......... and we know that it is, then , we must think more seriously, start studying by our means even the most basic but they are logical and if they are not because you have to know how to prove in some way or another, otherwise we will continue in the rotating sphere without exit , just read a little the previous comments where now they repeat the same supposed cures to the problem, but after a while they emphasize that it does not work ............... ...
Same here. Was apart of these forums a while back lost hope and wandering through the torment honestly. Was 16 when it started now 33. Tried everything suggested back then but never consistently, going to give it another go this time around. Hopefully someone and found something this whole time I have been gone.
hi, I am from the Philippines, I have discovered myself how to temporary fight this kind of diseases.. I am a sufferer too for 12 years now, and just recently I have discovered that I can able to minimize the effect or reaction of the people around me, in office, and while I am inside the transportation, I noticed that when I don't drink water or eat anything the reaction has gone or lessen, I don't know why maybe because of the acidity of my stomach plays a big role, so I reschedule my meal, I don't eat and drink a lot in the office, I just do my heavy meal when Im already home, I also reschedule my breakfast, I start eating my breakfast at 4am and drink water at 5am, also I noticed that when I consume oil, it gets worst, I mean the reaction will kick immediately and my nose will begin to clog. I have a wife, I don't know if she's already infected or not, but there are times that she also get reactions when she's facing in front of me, but a lot of times also that she didn't get some reactions such sneezing, cough, runny nose, perhaps she's already immune..
well if you ask me If I still have the disease, Yes I do, but it gets lesser reactions, compared before.. last year when I am inside the closed airconditioned room with roughly 4o people, there are 5 or 6 people starts to sneeze, clearing throat, dry cough. but today there are at least 1 or 2 persons have their reactions.
This is a story of glasters he wrote it 6 years ago.
to those suffering from "fecal body odor" - my story and cure c u r e z o n e . o r g
I suffered from what this community calls "fecal body odor" from the age of 15-18/19. I actually think I found this message board all those years ago. I'm now 26 and 100% cured and never once have had a reoccurrence. I remember how my life was back then and how it is now and it is a complete turn around. When I finally figured out what my problem was and got to a place where I could sit in a room and have a normal conversation, be treated like a normal person, I literally cried of happiness.
Around 15 years old, I started to get comments about odor. I wasn't sure if it was caused by me at first, but then after I kept hearing the comments, I became aware that it was me. Strangely enough, I couldn't smell it myself.
As you can imagine or have experienced, the mental torment is almost unbearable. As a kid in high school, I was frequently in close proximity of a group of kids. After about a year of suffering through this, I became well known as "the kid who smells like ****". I had a small group of friends, who never really commented on it, but the signs were there - opening windows in winter, keeping a distance, etc.
Since I couldn't prove it myself, I pleaded with my parents to go to the doctor. It wasn't till I was older that we actually started going to the doctor, and even then I think they didn't believe me. So I was stuck with it. After reading through a couple of these posts, I see all the same patterns. OCD about cleanliness, charcoal, strange rituals, enemas, colognes/perfumes, etc. I even remember trying to use bleach to clean myself. Dumb idea.
I nearly always had a little bit of gas. Since I was afraid of the smell getting worse, I would hold it in and go to the bathroom to release whenever I could. I would never have any stains or actual ****/liquid, so I was perplexed as to what was happening to me. When I started going to the doctor, I got all sorts of random diagnoses - even one doctor said it might just be me growing up. What the f*** does that even mean?????
I remember one especially humiliating day in my life, my Science teacher called a random seat reassignment. Everyone got up, and she called kids to their seats one by one. I started getting worried it was about me. When I was one of the last 5 or so kids, I got so ashamed my face turned beet red. To make it even more humiliating for me, she left one seat open in front of me, one seat open behind me and then put the class trouble maker in the very last seat. A kid in the class asked why they changed seats, The teacher didn't answer. One of the kids said "It's because x smells like ****". It was agonizing. Since it had been a while suffering through this, and being publicly humiliated was a common occurrence at that point, I felt like I needed to escape. I went home and was ready to kill myself. I went to the bathroom, filled up the tub, and got in with the knife. I sat there for hours. I couldn't do it.
The most tormenting part of this period of my life was the psychological torture. Since I couldn't smell it myself, I began to try to confirm or disprove with friends and only the closest of friends. All I wanted was to know. When I was working with a good friend of mine, at the end of the shift, he openly said "Dude, you smell like ***." He told me about it and how everyone knew. He said it wasn't all the time, and sometimes it was much worse and sometimes it was just a little bit. I finally had someone be upfront with me about it after over a year of dealing with the issue.
Odor - described as "****", "farts", or "it stinks in here"
Inability to detect own odor
Foul smelling stool
A weird bubbling in my lower right gut after eating
My (self found) cure:
At the end of it all, no doctor was able to help. I tried all sorts of diets, but it was one in particular that cured me. For 6 weeks straight, I ate nothing but boiled chicken breast, white rice with no seasoning, egg whites, and green pea pods (low in fructose). My symptoms slowly decayed until they were completely gone. I started reincorporating things into my diet, and noticed them come back. Through the process of elimination, I had nailed it down to gluten. two years of suffering - all because of gluten. After completely eliminating gluten from my diet, I was cured. This is much more difficult than it appears, and it can't be half-assed. If you want to be free of this - it has to be 100% adherence without any slip ups. I'm sure if you went through what I had to go through, you won't have trouble finding the motivation to do this.
My life is on the right track. I moved as soon as I could, and began a new life. I graduated near the top of my class, and I'm now working in NYC at a top consulting firm. This wouldn't have been possible with the debilitating and strange disorder I had when I was younger. I don't think I would be alive today had I been suffering this long.
Please, if you have not tried it, and the above story/symptoms sound familiar to you, you need to try a 100% strict gluten-free diet. I would also suggest following the "zero-chance" diet I followed above to maximize your body's ability to heal.
I felt the need to share my story and my cure. I don't expect it to be the cure all for all of you, but I know for a fact it will be the way for some of you. Good luck.
To people going through PATM,try to take a lot of probiotics,drink lot of clean warm water and eat healthy a lot .. I hope this answer help u guys because it seems the effects of my patm started to lose its effects after 3 weeks(people still sneeze when I talked but there is no anymore a cough sounds).I believe the patm was actually a bad gas that was released from our stomach and we need to care for it.Hope this help u.