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To Shaz

I hope respite went well.  I thought I better type out that stuff I promised I would before I forgot again.

1.  Acknowledge a feeling
2.  Identify the feeling
3.  What's the feeling about.
     Child self                                             Adult self
     Reacts (I need) -past  (Intense)              Responds (I want/ would like) -now (calm)
     What, when, where, who, how
     I feel
4.  Validate the feeling (permission)
     It's OK to feel x, y, z
5.  Practical intervention
6.  Integration
7.  Growth
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I don't think he was watching in a creepy sense lol he was just looking over at us he was waiting in a queue outside a bank, i guess i am embarassed because he only see's one side of me and to see with my child would be a side he never see's. He knows i can function a bit i do it for my children and i try to be normal around them although sometimes that isn't possible.
I am so anxious today its making me really irritable i can't settle or concentrate.
I think if i go down again i will stay there i don't think i will have the energy to climb out of the hole again
I can't leave my partner i would be totally alone and i can't have that i would be too scared and i need him to look after the children, my therapist reckons i can do it alone but i know i can't. I don't want to accept that there is anything wrong with my relationship because that reflects on me as a person, i don't like change as you have guessed and strangely i need to be with him, i just want to feel loved.
It is good that you have made a decision about the run for next year its something to work towards and no point looking backwards, easier said than done.
I don't think today will be as good as yesterday i feel strange and out of control a bit, i am getting feelings of wanting to escape again, i don't actually think that its me who controls how i feel its my mood how i behave all depends on my mood but i don't think i can control my mood., i suppose thats where medication comes in. My partner is stressing me out today because i am on the internet, i hate that.
Yeah balance would be good, its hard to find though.
I agree though that if therapists think you can function at all they think all is well, they need to see beneath it all.
Have a good day.
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Mood can be a strange thing -up, down, stable.

He was watching you or he just happened to be passing and saw you?  Watching sounds a bit eerie.  But then I did go out and watch the start of the triathlon and saw, and watched, my GP.  I guess some of us our curious people.  It's a bit ?? (?odd) seeing someone you know and relate to in one context in another.

I don't necessarily like health workers seeing me outside of the health service.  Sometimes I think people can misinterpret what they see.
One day I was in town shopping for something to wear to my sister's wedding that weekend.  I saw one of the psych emergency team members, or he saw me.
Later that day when I spoke to my GP he involved them.  I don't think these people can comprehend that life can be so terrible when they've just seen you shopping and seeming functional.

Are you embarrassed because he sees you in unguarded moments?  Or like I said before has seen you in a role that you can function in (for a while anyway).  Or embarrassed that he sees you in the worse state?
Your social worker sounds about right.

I was just thinking about that the other day regarding the contestants on Survivor.  The show must know so much about them: their medical history, ... just lots of stuff.

True.  A movie can wait for a rainy day (or evening).
Sounds cold (and like a lot of glass to keep clean).  =)  I've been enjoying sitting near one of them in the sun.  At least it helps to warm me up.

I want too and I need too.  I expect it will take time but it's something I need to do.  The environment here is just so toxic.  For what it's worth I may as well be living in an old people's home, and while I feel old, I am definitely not that old!!

They had a helicopter to shoot the event.  It made me feel so sad.
Realistically I know I made the best decision for me at this time.  I wrote in my post to Dr Gould how bad things had been several years ago after the run of the same event.  I was devastated and things were pretty bad.  I actually woke up feeling OK this morning.  Probably because I have my period.  Yuck!  PMT.  That's probably why my mood has been so variable.
Today I decided I am going to do the triathlon next year and I am going to win my age group.  I have a lot of work to do and a lot of things to work on but if I get everything right I should do OK.  One year and counting.  One year to work on anxiety, depression, nutrition, weight, etc, etc.  Oh and fitness.  Whoops!  Nearly forgot that one.

I would leave.  That would be hard with him at home all the time now then.
People deserve better than to be abused.  But then I guess I take a lot of people's crap too (and they mine).  I was just saying to Dr Gould that I felt I had to be careful not to batter my father by putting him down so much.  It's so easy to do when he can be so stupid and useless and controlling.
It makes sense.  If that is your decision.  That sounds a bit like me saying I'm going to stay at home for the rest of my life.  I can't judge or decide for you because I don't know the true dynamics of your relationship.  If he were always abusive and  insensitive I would leave.  Short-term it would be hard.  Long-term, just feel that weight off your shoulders.

You don't need to be with anyone.  You are strong enough to be alone (with support to start with, but over time can become more independent).  It seems a little strange that you aren't receptive to the possibility of change.  I can see it's a raw subject at the moment.

I have periods (very rarely) when I feel more motivated and feel I have more clarity, more purpose and direction.  I sometimes get like that when I am unwell and go past being angry.  Or turn the anger around.  I think I make others out to be bad and so push them away which gives me strength, makes me feel more in control.  There is no room for both the good and the bad though which is a big problem.  I need balance.

Or too much sugar??

Hey, have a good day.  
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Thanks for that, i am trying not to worry about it, i have an ok day which feels strange i am very hyper inside and outside and i am very restless i can't relax i have been like this before but that was months ago it scares me abit i wonder why i feel this way after feeling so depressed for so long and i know after a while my mood will drop again then its hard to deal with.
I went to the town today the sun was shining and i was warm i bought a new TV for my kitchen. I was sitting on a bench in town playing with my baby and i turned around and my therapist was watching me and i turned away really quickly i was embarassed i told myself i would say hello next time but i always turn away then i feel bad he is so good to me, i hope he understands its not personal its just me, i mentioned it to my social worker last time i saw her and she said not to worry because she said he knows so much about me that its probably like being naked when i see him i am so vulnerable to him, so that helped a bit.
I will probably try respite again sometime, i know they are keen for me to go there for the intensive therapy so i will try and work with them.
Its good you went for a run, you must be fit, don't worry about eating too much, i eat when i am stressed its like i am trying to eat the feeling away it doesn't work though. My partner has always been like that it annoys me i am who i am he needs to accept it, i know i need to lose weight but him treating me like that i will eat me, i have put on weight since the birth of my last child and with being depressed i haven't been to the gym i had no energy he needs to understand that.
We are planning to go for a picnic on Sunday the weather is too be nice we were going to see a movie but it would be better to be outside on a nice day.
A house with a lot of glass that sounds really nice.
You mentioned leaving home, would you really or just want too, its a hard decision to make.
I see what you mean about just getting on with the decision i have made and its true like with you too and about the run, just because you didn't do it, its not the end of the world and there is no point stressing about it, easier said than done though.
Decision making can be good, if you don't feel bad about it after that is, but going to your GP thats a good decision.
Maybe the better weather has affected my mood i don't know, or the fact that i go to see a woman who works for womans aid she helps woman who suffer domestic violence, well anyway she was helping me understand my relationship with my partner because at times its not good, its not physically violent but verbally and emotinally, well so they tell me but i refuse to accept it, my partner is the only person i have, i have no friends and my parents don't bother so why would i leave him, he is very good to me at times.
Anyway the talk with her made me realise i won't leave ever i need to be in this relationship i can't be alone and no matter how they try to advise me i won't listen, so that was another decision made because i had been so stressed about the relationship and didn't know what to do but talking with her made me realise i won't do anything so there is no point talking about because i won't change it, do i make sense.
Don't get me wrong my partner is not all bad he has a really good side but he has a bad one as well and i get confused because he can be so good to me but they reckon thats how someone abusive works but anyway i need to be with him so i have to accept it.
Do you ever find that your mood lifts like that, i still feel abit depressed but strange and hyper well i suppose its better than suicidal, i think its anxiety more than anything that is making me hyper.
I hope you have a good day
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It's OK.  
I'm dealing with the same feelings.  I gave up on my running and then over ate just so that I could justify not doing it.  The event is tomorrow.  Registration, from now till 10 pm.
Our behavior helps us learn more about ourselves.  Also shows us what we need to work on.  And just because we backed out this time, or the time before, doesn't mean that we will next time.
I thought it sounded like a bad idea to have the kids with you.  Probably doesn't teach them a lot either.  Your partner should have reinforced the need for you to stay.  Or you should have had someone pick you up (if that were an option) so that you would then have the strength to follow through.
Whatever we have done or haven't done we can't undo the past, but we can look forward.  Don't beat yourself up about the respite, etc -it truly is OK.
Do you want to know how I justify not running.  I say that come next week the other entrants will be poorer (entry fee) and we're no different.  They may feel as though they achieved something but ...  It's like going to respite.  Is it really going to matter, other than you berating yourself, that you didn't go.  They're just feelings.  They'll pass.  We'll have new challenges to face.  The world goes on.

Maybe he has an issue with you being vulnerable?  He only hurts you because he is hurting for some reason.  I wouldn't tolerate him making comments like that.  I think it is extremely insensitive and disrespectful.  Even if you do have a weight problem there is a more acceptable way of addressing the issue.  Devaluing you won't motivate you to lose weight, maybe only depress you more and cause you to turn to food and put on more weight.  =(

Personally I think your health is your priority.  I am just beginning to learn this myself.  I think I'm going to have to make some very hard decisions very soon.
Doing what I'm doing at the moment is killing me.  I can't even really function anymore.  I don't want more of this so I am going to have to make some really big changes.  Like leaving home, etc.
You're right, it is your problem you feel bad.  You can do stuff to help make yourself feel better though (and don't put up with crap from your partner.  Just because you're unwell doesn't mean it is OK for him to treat you badly).
I think it is OK to rely on your social worker but I think you also need to be working towards a place where you can do stuff by yourself independently.

Have you tried journalling?  That may help you get stuff out.  Could be a good record of how far you've come too.

And I will be very annoyed with you if you continue to feel bad about a decision you made.  You made it, let it go.  I doubt that you will have missed out on anything.
Doesn't that give you the weekend to get your kids organized for next week?  =)

I've been for a short run.  I'll keep the appointment with my GP.  It will give me an opportunity to repair the relationship too.  Just making that decision helped me to feel calmer.

I don't mind any of the seasons.  Spring is probably my favorite but Autumn is nice too.
Our last winter was the coldest in about 35 years.  Our summer has been the dries in over 40 years.  Autumn is expected to be pretty dry too.  Dry is OK if you don't depend on the rain.
Winter is in June.  Spring is September.
Winter probably isn't too bad.  We have frosts which is 0 oC.  If you're outside though and it is wet and windy it can be cold.
We're just getting our house finished and the heating probably isn't that flash.  A lot of our house is glass and we tend to lose heaps of heat through them.  Also we haven't really had any curtains either.  None now anyway.

Don't stress.  You were booked in.  It was up to you to use it as you wished.  It was unfortunate how it all turned out and yes it would have been better if you could have gone or they could have filled the room but that time was for you.
Same with therapy.  You choose how to use your therapy time.  You can talk, not talk, not turn up, etc.  The decisions you make do have consequences though.
I have learnt the hard way that it is better to try and be skillful than to have to deal with the consequences of bad decisions.
It would be so good if we all had crystal balls and could look ahead.  Shame about my behavior (especially when I was unwell) is one thing I have had to learn to deal with.

Take care.  Enjoy your weekend.  DON'T Stress!!  It just makes you old and gray and wrinkled before your time.  Plus may leave you susceptible to heart disease, etc.
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I didn't go i am so useless i can't make myself do anything i always back out now i have to live with the feeling of giving in and not going, i just get so anxious and then i get scared i just wanted to be at home with my children, my partner is annoying me, making comments about my weight he knows it hurts me so he uses it against me he has always done this. I think because i didn't go he knows i needed to be here so he thinks he can treat me whatever way he wants, anyway i made the choice its my fault if i feel bad. I will talk it over with the social worker and tell her she has to take me otherwise i won't go.
The panic i think is because i have so much to deal with that i don't want to talk about it and it annoys me and thats how it comes out in the from of panic, i panic when i am away from home because i am scared i won't be able to stop panicking i know i will eventually stop but it scares me. I will panic and be anxious all weekend now because i didn't go to respite and i will be really annoyed over it.
Yeah talk with your GP tell him how you feel, a run would also be good.
Its Autumn with you i love Autumn its Spring here strange we had a really bad winter the coldest in years and its taking a while to warm up but the weekend it to be nice, what month does your winter start in? Does it usually be really cold?
I hope you get a therapist soon and are able to start sorting things out
I need to try and distract my mind before i go mad thinking about not going to respite, i also feel like i wasted two days someone else could have had, enough thinking.
Have a good day.
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That was a good idea.
Monday isn't too far away.  When I feel stressed I end up counting the number of days or sleeps till my next appointment.  I had a previously booked appointment to see my GP next Tuesday.  I am thinking about keeping it.  Hopefully it can't be any worse than this weeks one.  I usually have a pretty good relationship with my doctor.

I expect so.  Just not sure when that would be.  I would hope before the end of this year.  I just don't know.  I'm not sure what the outcome of the review will be.
The doctor and the net has limitations but I've appreciated what little input he has been able to offer.  In some respects some of his comments have been more enlightening than some of the things my last T was saying.  But then that wasn't much.  I thought he, my T, wasn't that good.

The panic is there for a reason.  Find out what it masks and then you can look at the underlying issue.  Doing that should help reduce the anxiety.

My plan is to go for a short run and to try and get real with myself.  Try and leave some of my hurt behind.  It's not helping me at this point and is making me feel more pessimistic and depressed.  I need to tackle my current mood with my GP.  Probably he isn't aware of just how shut down I am.

Will definitely try and get some fresh air.  The suns out but it is Autumn and is freezing.  I think I must still be cold intolerant from the iron deficiency.
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