*** FORUM REMINDERS PLZ READ***

[avisg]

There has been a recent influx of new members into the
addiction communities and while we welcome each and every one of you,
we would like to remind you that there are rules for posting. Before
your post, please read the follow the rules below:





1.      Do not post questions on how to get high by taking more meds, combining med, etc.



2.      Do not post asking how to pass a drug test.



3.      Do not give advise to anyone if you do not know the answer.
Please remind the poster that someone will be along who will help them.



4.      Do not recommend another drug, with the exception of suboxone, for use during the withdrawal process.



Any post that violates the above rules will be deleted.



This is for the new members and the old timers as well. We all need to
help and respect each other in our common goal toward recovery.



Also, remember we do have a pain management forum if you need to look into alternatives for pain.

If we all work together we we can continue to have a wonderful and supportive place for our members .



Your cooperation is appreciated.



Avisg, Community Leader

[OnOxyfor10yrs]

Although nobody on here claims to be Dr. Drew or an interventionalist from A&E's show "Intervention, I feel IMHO that worried 878 is 100% right in her opinion. All we can do is help each other get through the worst part of w/d and recovery. Methodone has changed the life of many people making them productive people and now they lead normal lives. I think it is unfair that a moderator can deceide that only "suboxone" can be recommended for opiate addiction aside of  going cold turkey ot tapering. Worried878 was completely correct when she pointed out that the "Thomas Receipe" which includes a controlled and highly addictive substance, valium be allowed but no other methods for kicking this monster of addiction are banned. We all SUFFER on here.

I agree 100% that aiding an addict to beat a drug test etc. should be banned. I do not agree that people considering methadone if they will die with a needle in their arm after failed attempts at staying clean is wrong and should not be talked about on the forum. Nobody I hope holds stock on this forum for suboxone, thus saying this drug is better for one addict than someone with a 10 bag a day heroin addiction which if you all know suboxone will not help at all!

We all lean on each other and I am happy that we have a moderator, but this is an ADDICTION FORUM, so why not give our opinions that are within safety standards.

Worried878 was just making a point of kicking vodka with beer b/c she was trying to make a point that it is not fair to allow sub talk only. I am with you Worried878

[avisg]

worried always feel free to voice your opinion like I said my main concern were people recommending one short term opiates to get off another .

Methadone is another option one could use (again not recommending it just stating it is used )


PLZ DO NOT SUGGEST USING HYDRO,OXY.,TRAMADOL to get off of another opiate.

[worried878]

Methadone is also approved by the federal govt and medical system to quit narcotics but it was not chosen as a recommendation? It was approved for many years before suboxone....I wouldnt choose it long term, nor sub long term...but we are in the United States of America....and people do have freedom of choice to have their own opinions

No disrespect to anyone's rules, especially not to u avis as u r a great forum leader/a hard job and time consuming and u have put a lot of time into it,  but I have a bad habit of expressing what I think I guess..perhaps need to stop doing that on this forum

[avisg]

Good post cathy !!! There are some great written suboxone experiences both positive and negative in the health pages

[cathy5841]

for real life stories about suboxone look in the health pages.  our members own stories about the pro and cons of that drug.

[avisg]

Just because it can be recommended does not mean it has to be .. Yes in  many cases
it seems absurd to recommend  suboxone for someone taking low dosese of short acting opiates. For other people taking high amount of opiates it may be an option

regardless this post was not written to debate the   positives and negatives of suboxone . That's a whole different topic of its own.