???? suboxone ???

[lovemypillhead]

Quick question to anyone and everyone who is on suboxone or been on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


My bf went to dr yesterday and he put him on ( 3 ) 8 mg a day. So, a total of 24mg of suboxone a day.

The bottle says TAKE ONE PILL 3 TIMES DAILY
But, the insert from the pharmacy says IF U ARE TO TAKE MORE THAN ONE PILL A DAY, TAKE THEM ALL AT ONCE UNDER TONGUE, ETC.....
If that is true, why wouldnt the bottle say "Take 3 pills ONCE a day"

Im confused and no we didnt call the dr yet.  We wanna make sure he gets the maximum benefit from this.....so i want to make sure he takes them right.

So, if he is on 3 pills a day....is he suppose to take all 3 at once? Or, like one in the morning, afternoon then night???

I would have started the question on a fresh forum but i cant at work. My work blocks certain websites where u can chat and things like that!

[cattalina]

Ok - I need to get this off my chest.. I'm sorry but mtgoat911 - you annoy me!! I respect your experiences and admire that you help other addicts... But regardless you annoy me. Everyone has their own opinion and we're all entitled to it. One way is no better or worse than another. It's a personal choice for each addict how they choose to deal with their addiction. IMO you're missing a big point that some of us try to make... and you step on my toes all the time. I'm gonna have to start wearing steel toes... :)

Now - love: I'm super excited for you guys! You know the deal with sub - what to do, not to do, length of time, side effects.... blah blah. Make sure he starts going to meetings and networking with other clean people. That will be the part that sustains his recovery. YAY!! I'm so glad hun!! Look into those websites I gave you SOMEONE has to be able to help you guys!

[christos24]

It all depends on the individual. if the doctor wants him on 24 mgs taking 3 8mgs tablets daily then what most likely he wants him to do is take one in the morning, one in the afternoon, and one in the evening, but depending on how your bf reacts to suboxone or how if effects him he any like to take a couple the morning or more at night. its really up to him and how he feels. the doc just doesnt want him to take anymore than 24mgs a day, thats the maximunm dose and would prefer that he sticks the same amount daily and usually at the same time so he can get a routine started with structure. the pharmacy bottle says that because suboxone needs to be dissolved under the tongue if he has to take more than one at once they want you to put (insert the amount of pills) under the tongue at once. i was on 32mgs of suboxone for over 8months. i took 16mgs twice daily. so i broke both pills in half  making four pieces and put them under my tongue to dissolve twice daily , and it takes sometime right around 15-30 minutes to fully dissolve. they alos ahve smaller tablets than the 8mg tabs he has, at first when is tarted i was only on 8mg for the frist week and i was prescribed 2mg pills, so overall to save time the pharmacy most likely puts the same directions on all the bottles. Some info for your bf on suboxone just so this process of treatment can be as smooth and comfortable as possible from personal experience is when he decides its time to get off the suboxone remember too talk to the doc, and to slowly taper down the dose from 24mgs. that is a high dose, the high effective dose for suboxone is 32mgs, its a unique synthetic opioid, in that it has a ceiling effect, where the higher you go the actually more negative effects you get and the more it acts like an opiate antagonist(what they use for heroin,oxy, etc. overdoses in the hospital).from my and others experience i would say the most effective dose is between 4mgs-24mgsx, any higher is pointless. you actually get more of a typical positive "opiate" effect from lower doses, but eveyone is different so that needs to be taken in consideration for everyone. he also does not want to stop taking the medication( going cold turkey), or run out way early because the withdrawals from suboxone, like methadone, take longer to begin but once started they last for over a month and can be absolutely brutal. people think theyre DOC wd's were as bad as it gets, but try going cold turkey from sub or methadone and it gets much much worse. i dont mean to make it sound soo scary, but tis something he really needs to remember and pay close attention too, cuz ive been through both suboxone and methadone wd's and good lord it was bad. the wd's will be,lighter the less amount of time he takes the suboxone, but most people in recovery need to be on the treatment drugs for long periods of time, at least a year. i know myself and the severity of my addiction i will need to be on methadone for at least a few years, but i can honestly say i am so much better, happier, structured, stable, and motivated than when i was a down and out junky at only 22. Im also a much much better boyfriend too :).Suboxone can work extremely well for lots of ppl and ive seen it personally, and i didnt touch or even come close to taking any oxycontin, H, or any other opiates for over 8 months thanks to suboxone, along with counseling, group and NA meetings. Both are crucial for success. I wish both of you the best of luck, stay strong..you are being a great great girlfriend..-christos

[lovemypillhead]

MT GOAT:

I will always make sure he doesnt run out of money for suboxone....if that's what it takes.  I supported his sh!t *** oxy/H addiction........So, I have no problems helping him, if needed, to get suboxone.

He has been on some sort of opiate for 10 years........Oxy, Herpon, Roxy, etc......he has done so much damage to himself and his brain and everything else.....if the sub helps him get thru this addiction, mental or physical, then i dont care.  I really do not care if it is trading one addiction for another. I know that is controversial on here...but, i really don't care.  I am all for whatever it takes for him to not go to the hood and buy heroin. Or Oxy's at $60 a piece. Or steal from me to have drug money. Or lay in bed and NOT move for 12 hours except to go the bathroom all the time.  I mean, whatever.  I do think he needs to talk to someone...I think NA meetings will help him. But, i am just so happy that when he woke up this morning he wasnt blowing my emailing up flipping the f out because he doesnt have pills and is sick and needs money or needs the car to go look for stuff or whatever.  

[lovemypillhead]

i have been  thru so much with him............and his lies regarding pills, money, etc. that really--the only hope we had was suboxone.....or something of that nature. he has tried tapering and it didnt work. he has tried ct and that surely didnt work. we have changed our phone number when he was getting clean BEFORE so that way his contacts couldnt call him ... but, of course....that didnt work.  he has done it all...inpatient detox. there is such a big mental part of addiction, too, that maybe if him taking suboxone tricks him into whatever...i dont knw?  again, i dont care. i think suboxone is awesome. i think everyone has a different method and ability to recover and be drug free, eventually. i think what works for sally sue wont work for the next person.

if he would end up needing to be on sub for a year -- that is fine with me.  of course, he can't just stop that....but, the medicine was designed for opiate addiction.  

of course i want him to be "free".....free of everything would be awesome. i cant wait til the day when he doesnt need sub......but, honestly, im not sure if he is the type that will ever be free.

[christos24]

yeah suboxone isnt 100% a miracle cure, but i am very confident especially with the support he has from you that he will do great and be able to stave off the addiction. he will have no withdrawals, minimal cravings that are manageable, so he should be good to go. i defintely have been in the same situatio he was and its terrible, im sure he was same way, but i was definitely not myself in the slightest. the drug had complete control every part of me. i was a selfish junky who looked past his girlfriend, family and closest friends just to get a "high"...i am soo grateful and glad that i got to treatment when i did and have the rest of my life to live..best of luck-christos

[mtgoat911]

catt when i was on sub i hated people like me too, completly normal
i am a memeber of na, and i respect the na traditions
one of those states that the ONLE requirement for membership is the desire to stop using
you dont have to be a likable person to be a member, no one can throw you out!!! you can be on sub and attend meetings heck you can get high in the parking lot and walk in and someone will welcome you
i am lucky that way because i have not always been a likably person
i am glad that you got that off your chest, i am also glad that you are reading my post
i definantly have my own way of carring the message, i work with addicts by volunteering for an addiction phone line, i have even been known to detox people here at my house
and i try to stay connected with our local tx facilities
addicts including myself are very sensitive, we do not like being told what to do or that what we are doing needs to be changed, i have also found that when someone is really pissing me off then they usually remind me of myself or they are saying something i know i need to hear, i actually slapped someone in an na meeting for this reason
catt no matter what you are taking i still care about you and i know you want recovery! this is pure and can be read in your post, you are on sub. yet you tell potential sub. patients, "hey, its not all roses", i do respect you and love reading your post
and trust me, my life is far from perfect, i can be an emotional basket case, i have just started homeschooling my learning disabled child and usually when i come on here its because i am wanting some distraction from the stress of that, oh and my husband maybe loosing his job soon and we may have to move, i have pulled my butt out of the homeless shelter, bought my dream house and now i may loose it at 4 yrs clean! yeah, i know ...focus on the 11th step, Gods will, theres always a plan, When one door shuts another one opens, what else, oh i am fatty fat fat fat and this is making me hate myself, so no one is perfect, i just carry the message in that in your face kind of way because thats how i was taught, so dont give up on me yet
we are both addicts and we both need help

alright i have hijacked another thread today, i need to get off here and pack for vacation, but i wanted to ask lovemypillhead what drugs she takes? pain meds, alcohol, pot
usually people in her situation are ... a. on something themselves or b. terribly codependent

i was personally in this situation with my hubby, we were both using, at times i would just smoke pot and he would drink, but to make our relationship work we had to both be clean and working a program,
when i did decide to stop, he refused tx,, so i went to alonon, there was no narcanon meetings in my area at that time, i learned how to love without being co-dependent

i can get back into that mode where i need to focus on his needs but i must remember that i have my own problems and he is grown, he can take care of himself