ouitting methadone with morphine tabs

[sonia991]

Hi ya all can anyone out there help me..
I have been on a 30ml meth... script since may 2008 and want to detox at home asap. I have heard from a few people that morphine tabs help and stop you from withdrawel if you takre 1 tab everyday for 5 days.as anyone ever tryed this detox and if so can you message me back ASAP because i need to detox so i can have my son living with me again and also would like to move in with my new partner so please any advice would be greatfully appreciated.
Thanks for taking the time to read this message.

[kim715]

Sonia I just wanted to add that although having your son back living with you is a great reason to want to get totally free and clean,you really have to do this just for you right now.Addiction is a selfish disease but ,in my opinion,recovery must be a selfish process,especially in the beginning.You have to do this for YOU.It has to be because you're ready,because you're sick and tired of being sick and tired.Trying to do a quick fix doesn't work in recovery.It's a life long process.It gets easier with time but in the beginning you must focus the same amount ,if not more,energy into getting clean as you did to getting high when you were using.I guess I'm just trying to caution you into making certain that you are truly where you need to be before you step off that methadone.You don't want to slip and end up back where you started or worse.All the best hon....Kim

[DrewBoy7]

I have been a OC and Perc addict for 2 years straight and im clean of all that due to my suboxone treatment! It has been the best thing that i have done for my family and myself! I was on suboxone for a week and it gave my side affect so i went to subutex and it has helped out no craving @ all! If this is something that YOU think might be good try it BUT i have been tpld by alot of my pere's here that it can be just as bad as methadone! My insurance wont cover subutex so I was thinkin about starting methadone! Alot of people here have giving me great solutions on what to do! Both are hard to get off so you must taper! I also use to take morphine when i was dope sick from OC's and perc's it did help at the time but found myself in the same boat as before needing more so that not a good route to take! Stay strong and hang in there! Good things will happen to good people trying to get clean!! DrewBoy7

[road2recovery]

welcome...kim knows what she is talking about., and i agree with everything she said...I know the feeling of just wanting to get it over with and start to work on recovery..I have never done methadone, or sub....So i will keep that for others...i went c/t off of 20, 10mg lortabs a day, using for a few years everday...I am over 600 days clean, and I can tell you, it is not easy sometimes, but life is better then i thought it could be...I want to wish you the best of luck, and you have a very good attitude going into this, so stay strong, and get your life back!!  God bless
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[kim715]

I am totally clean hon,have been for 469 days.I only started counting clean days when I stopped the methadone.Thats a personal decision though.I went c/t off of 25 mgs 469 days ago and I found this forum and I started hitting meetings and I dug deep and with the help of a few wonderful people here I made it to the other side.I didn't use anything during my w/ds,just my computer.I don't know enough about sub to give you an answer to that question but many here do.Keep posting....Anything I can do to help,just ask.All the best...Kim

[sonia991]

Thank's kim all advice is good advice, i know what your saying about doing it for me mainly but i am believe me, and as for going down that wrong road again there is no way that is going to happen,cravings aint a problem at all i will never touch that stuff again and i dont even think about it or crave for it,but it's true what your saying about weening down though i no i might sound a bit i want it done rite now but i do, Am i rite in saying your totally clean if so can you tell me how you done it please.And do you no if it would be better for me to switch to subutex and then ween of them instead.

Thanks for taking the time to read through my messaege anyway and hope to hear from you soon xxx

[Loripoo]

Hi Sonia911,
I just wanted to warn you about Subutex.
If your doctor doesn't know exactly the right time for you to take it, you could go into what's called "precipitated withdrawal".
Your opiate receptors are used to having the drug on them for all the time you've been taking it. Now imagine having every bit of opiate pushed out of your system all of a sudden, and replaced with an opiate "block." You'd feel so horrible, but nothing you take could kick off that block which is what Subutex does. You have to make sure you're already in pretty heavy withdrawal from your methadone, before introduction of Subutex. That's the only right way to to it. Some docs have no clue how to switch people over, and folks end up in the ER wretching and in agony.
My suggestion would be to read about Kratom. I use it to taper off methadone. I got down from 112mgs to 14mgs 2x a day. (The split dose really helps me) my pain doctor is now switching me from methadone to Morphine. She says the withdrawal from morphine will be a bit smoother for me than the awful chemicals which make methadone so tough to get off of.
I'm concerned about being sick too, but I'm willing to try this. I really have alot of faith in my doctor. She's been so good to me.
I even tell her about the Kratom, and how I use it. She's intrigued by it's pain killing properties and says she will read more on it.
Be open and honest with your doctor. The more you can tell them about what's going on with you, the better they can help you.
Kratom really helps, but it tastes so disgusting I gag as I'm trying to swallow it. Perhaps it's time for me to pick up a pill machine.
(You can put the crushed leaves in little pills, and swallow them easier)
Good luck!

[kim715]

Sonia I'm just going to be honest with you here..There is no such thing as w/ding from methadone ASAP...and introducing morphine to the picture for 5 days is not going to stop the w/ds.At best you would just be holding them off.Once you stop the morphine you're going to start the w/ds.The only way to try to minimize w/ds is to take your time and do a slow taper.I don't know much about tapering.I wasn't able to.I tried to taper twice off of it and from what I have read here I went down way too fast.The third time I got down to 25 mgs and just jumped but it took me a good 6 weeks to turn the corner.Hang in there,more will come along with more advice.All the best...Kim