Started suboxone today, short term taper.

[amaria]

So I finally evened out and not feelin to much wd, but very tired. Hopefully tom. I'll have more energy. And I'm praying this short term taper will work. I do expect some wd at the end. And I am currently seeking aftercare. Wish me luck please, I want to be done soooooo bad! Thanx for everyones support :)

[ufindme2008]

Do not stay on it for more than a week

[amaria]

Is it physically addictive if im on it for 2 weeks? My taper plan calls for 2 weeks. Thanx.

[dxguy2001]

Hello I just thought I'd share my story. I was addicted to Norcos for a year and I decided to go the suboxone route. I did it for 13 days and jumped off at 1mg at the end. Once I quit the Subs I experienced very manageable withdrawals. The first 2 or 3 days I had cold/hot spells with chicken bump skin. Days 4 and 5 I had the dreaded diarrhea but Imodium helped that. Yes there will be some anxiety and a bit of depression but nothing I couldn't take. The best thing to do is keep yourself busy. Oh and walking outside seemed to help me sooooo much! The great thing was after I jumped off the subs I had absolutely zero cravings for pills. Oh and you will have some wicked insomnia, Trazadone worked wonders for me but make sure you don't take it too much. I am now 27 days clean and loving life. Everyday I feel better and better. Sleep is still in flux but I'm noticing an improvement.
Bottom line is I strongly believe a two week taper is the best route to go. I've read so many horror stories about people trying to get off the subs after many years of use. I feel horrible for those people. Oh and you have to be 100% ready to rid yourself of those horrible pills. Try to find motivation throughout the process, mine was my 3 year old little boy. Every time things got tough I pulled out his picture and was reminded of my goal. Good luck to you, it can be done with minimal to no withdrawals if you stick to the short taper. Mind of matter!

P.S. Multi vitamins and protein are vital to recovery.

[dxguy2001]

Mind over matter I meant lol

[Addicted2long]

You'll be fine after 2 weeks dont listen to everything u hear about sub. Just focus on you nd your recovery u sound like u got it under control. Good luck

[amaria]

Thanx so much, I really needed to read those two last posts. People have really started to scare me, as if I screwed up bad by starting the subs. I havent taken enough to even me out, I know I should, and I finally fell asleep and missed taking a dose. So Im currently feeling a lil wd, Im trying to take the most minimal amount to get through the first 4 days. Again, I really appreciate the positive feedback, I feel like its a lifesaver right now. Thanx 4 your support :)

[amaria]

Congrats dxguy and thanx Addicted2long and to u both! :)

[minn66]

Hi. I have no experience with subs but I can tell you this. We addicts tend to NOT follow instructions. Meaning that from what I understand through reading as research, subs can help. You just need to taper off of them and use them as they are intended. We are all different and one person's experience may differ from another's. Follow your plan and have the goal to be pill-free and not substitute one thing for another. I believe you will be successful!

[amaria]

Thanx Minn and I'm gonna re read dxguy post above 20 times a day, that has given me unbelievable inspiration. And so glad it was detailed! Thanx again!

[GA_need_help]

Hi,
My friend, I started subs 3 weeks ago now.  I went into the hospital for detox on the 7th or 8th, and it was used in my detox meds, and I went to rehab for 2 weeks.  I will be finishing a week in Florida, getting home and settled and then starting to taper.  So I will start a slow taper in about a week.  I will be at 4 or 4 1/2 weeks.  We can do the taper together if you want to, encouraging each other.  I know this can be a positive experience.  We both are so tired of all this, but we are about to show how successfully subs can be used.  Let's just focus on the positive.  I am on 12 mg divided into 3,  How much are you on???
Big Hug,
Marie

[amaria]

Hey GA friend, so glad you jumped on this post and saw dxguy post. Gave me alot of encouragement! I ended at 7mg yesterday, and ending at 6 mg sub today. Im just a lil tired still and a lil dirreah, not bad. I have severe ibs, so its always been hard for to control that. Would love to taper w you, hang n there. And congrats! I also replied in your inbox :)

[Addicted2long]

Hope your doing good today. You should do the taper with GA I think 2 weeks is a good idea.for you. You won't have horrid wds like people tell you I promise.you have to understand the the reason you hear mostly negative stuff about subs online is because the people who has positive experiences with it have moved on with there life and addiction. Sub is a tool and has to be used in the right way. It gives u a chance to make changes to your life and daily habits while also no longer using dangerous illegal substances and spending ridiculous amounts of money of them. For me its saving my life and at the moment I see no reason to get off it as I am at a low dose of 4mg daily for matientence. It allows me to no longer crave heroin and be involved in.the dangerous daily routine of getting it and using it IV. I was spending $300 a day and literally killing myself as I was no longer able to go 6 hours without a fix or I was very very sick. I could not even get out of bed without doing a shot and i was in a living night mere. It brings tears to my eyes if you only knew what suboxone has dome for me. I have now returned to working fulltime and have been able to rebuild all the relationships i has destroyed over the years. For this I am forever greatful and i will always stand up for sub as it's not for everyone but as a chronic relapser or someone at a high high dose of painkillers its a win win situation and weening slowly is not even a 1/10 as painful as quitting heroin CT. Nobody can argue me that. People can argue that I'm not really clean but whatever I had 4 1/2 months clean on a CT and i was miserable the whole time fighting terrible depression cravings and anxiety. I was so scared everyday of never feeling good again and when I started on sub It changed everything. I am no longer depressed and cravings are gone. Yes I will have to deal with quitting in the future but for me quality od life is what's most important. My doctor has also agreed to keep me on for as long as I choose and i plan to be at least 6 months as I Continue to attend NA 4x week, therapy 2x and see my sub doc every 2 weeks. He's one of the best in the country and he truly cares about me and not the.money. he has allowed me to tailor this to my own plan for my recovery. Anyways I hope that you just take everything u hear about sub being a mistake with a grain of salt. Its your life and you know you best. All I can gaurentee you is that its not as bad to come off as a opaite like opana for GAs situation that would have been absolutely awful. Good luck and god.bless

[Addicted2long]

How you feeling today?

[amaria]

Today was a lil rough. Had a moderate headache, hopefully I can sleep tonight. Thanks for asking. I'll post more tom. Xoxo

[dxguy2001]

Hey guys sorry I havent been on here in a bit. Im glad that I could give hope to others. There is so much BS on thr internet about suboxone so I really wanted to share my positive story. I wish you guys nothing but the best and if you have any questions or need advice im here.

[dxguy2001]

Oh and just remember that when you are feeling lousy it just means your brain is fixing itself. I promise you after a week or so you will notice your old self returning. Then everyday you will feel better and better!

[GA_need_help]

Hey, this is GA here.  Amaria, it sounds like you are already starting.  That is fantastic.  I can't do that yet.  I am in Florida still, and it is getting a little hard because I have been away from my home for a month now!!!  Tomorrow is the worst.  We drive to my mother-in-laws place she is staying on the beach to see her for a night. So, I will be getting back home on Thursday.  I can start tapering on Friday.  I will also have the films then (I can pick them up tomorrow, so that will be super helpful.  
   I am glad that you are starting your taper.  Keep us posted on everything.  I am eager to be off the suboxone, but I am so appreciating just how much it is giving me. If I still have pain after getting off the subs, I will get back on until I know how to handle it!  I am so grateful for all the great counsel.  I hope I can fall asleep soon.  I start to feel good, and I don't want to go to sleep!  And yes, I am feeling great off of the Opana!!  

God Bless You All.
Big hub,
Marie

[BigKev25]

Soboxone is horrible been on it 2 and a half years...like noted above only stay on a week.  The docs love prescribing you way to much like 24 mgs a day then keep you coming back to take your $$.   I wish someone would have told me that I only needed it for a few days at a low dosage .  I've tried to quit 3 times forget it .    I get to day 5 and lose my mind

[BigKev25]

I know I said soboxine is horrible but I just wanted to clarify that your doing a great thing getting clean Iand it can be wonderful if used properly.  I was just stating it is horrible for me cause I had a dr who wanted to pad his wallet instead of help me .    Good for you though stick to your program please

[amaria]

Hey dxguy, thanx for hanging in there with me through this. It means alot to me. And everyone else that has been so supportive. I am tapering the sub, i am going to try to end at 5 mgs. Today and 1 mg everyday after. When I get down to 1 mg, my plan is to slow taper. Like 3/4,next day 1/2, next day 1/4 and deal with what I have to. I heard a really good saying a few days ago, Ive been reminding myself of "what you can't do, you must do". Its very inspiring to me along with all of you.

I think the way I went into this suboxone taper may be helping me (i hope) too. I just said screw it, had them sittin in the fridge (i have the gummy ones) and said im done. Went through a good 18 hrs. Wd from oxycodone and started the sub. I really dont feel like alot of other people do on the sub. Not gonna lie, I dont feel normal, not a whole lot of energy, and yesterday spent the day with a pretty moderate headache. I'm on day 4 w/the sub and ive pretty much spent it on the couch. Not miserable, but not normal. I went into this with the mindset of, this is a part of coming off the oxys, its not gonna fix me. So in a way, im glad I havent gotten my life back.

[amaria]

Not just yet. I still need to get off these damn subs for me to get to that feeling. Im just taking it day to day, working towards my first clean day and pushing through. God, I soooo cant wait to yell from the rooftops-Day 1 CLEAN! Just figured as u guys walk through my journey, id let you all know where my head is at the same time. I love all of you reaching out to me with so much support. I will keep posting my "truths" as I continue on. And hell, maybe my posts will someday help someone else. Tty all soon! :)

[gunn73]

i m glad u r doing it Amaria. soon all will be better.
God bless u
take care

[amaria]

Thanx Gunn, you have played a big part in me havin the courage to start. Oh, and I left u a message. Thanx again!

[Addicted2long]

Your not going to feel awesome of day 4 of subs because they haven't truly started working yet. It takes a week or more to build in your system and.you start to feel amazing. Sub is not made for short tapers there are very few doctors that will even.allow this and no it's not because they want.your.money they only make $ off the appointment not the sub. And i only pay $75 a month to see him so he's not getting rich of me.anyways I think you should stay on a low dose of sub longer and than.do a slow taper.and I'm not sure if i read correct but did u say u wanted to jump at 5mg?? If so that's way too high and your in for a rough ride and a very likely relapse. Im not saying u will because for all I know ur a very strong person but man it's hard the body needs more time on sub to heal from all the crap its been through and the CNS is still way out of wack. 2 weeks should b the absolute minimum for a sub use.it isn't made to avoid wds from other opiates ppl taking it should know its got bad wds it's made for chronic relapsrrs and ppl like me who were close to death everyday with a needle in there arm it saved my life. I consider myself clean on 4mg sub daily and many will argue that but I am not high and i feel normal. I am able to enjoy myself again without Mr heroin jumping me everyday and beating my ***. Do as you feel is best for u but I wouldn't jump so soon IMO. Take care and good luck!