They are in their 20's, we can not force them, to get help, and they will not take them in a treatment program, be cause they have no way to test, they would have to harm themselves or some one else to warrant the Phych ward, for now we have gotten their 18 month old daughter away from them , that is all we can do at this point, I believe they are mixing Subox, and this whatever and injecting themselves, I am preparing myself for the worst, the other parents have already lost a son to suicide, It is so sad ,I think about them day and night!, Thank you for your honest oppinions Mary Ann, also we have alerted the local police, so I do not know if there is an on going investigation, maybe they will get arrested ,at this point I would rather see that then the latter!!
Actually, the DEA put these items under an emergency temporary control:
http://www.justice.gov/dea/pubs/pressrel/pr030111.html
I really hope when they reevaluate, they keep it that way! Would be good!
I actually tried K2 once smoke a little a bit of a buzz but that was it. Never wanted to do it again.
Michael
Demi Moore (actress) took K2 and totally flipped out and was admitted to the ER. This stuff is spreading in popularity throughout the states. Bath Salts has a basic overview in Wikipedia. The state of Maine has been hardest hit with this drug but is becoming popular with teenagers throughout the country. Neither K2/Spice or Bath Salts are illegal by the DEA but local counties are banning them with city ordinances.
Bath salts and K2/Spice are also called "designer drugs" or "legal highs" and they're BAD news. These have been made illegal in most states.
There's a lot not know about the long term effects of these drugs, but already there are reports of deaths, psychosis, violent outbursts, you name it attributed to these drugs. They're ALL bad.
My dear friend's daughter had a problem, with K2, and she already has some underlying psych issues. She became irrational, paranoid and violent and tried (almost succeeded) to take her own life in an extremely gruesome and gory way right in front of my friend. It was awful. My friend was paramount in getting K2 off the streets in our area. She worked behind the scenes with our local law enforcement agencies and there was a huge crackdown (thankfully).
I sure hope your son and his fiancee get some help soon as it sounds like they're in pretty deep. Here's some easy to understand info:
http://www.drugfree.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Parents360-Synthetics-Bath-Salts-K2-Spice-Parents-Guide-FINAL-2-13-12.pdf
One of the ingredients being used in some of these products is called "khat". There's been a huge increase in smuggling of khat into the US over the past decade.
Good luck to you!