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420841 tn?1233761491

Day 2 from fiorinal #3...need some help?!?!

I have had migraines for all of my life, I am 38 years old...I have always taken fiorinal number 3 for them among many other drugs.  About a year ago, my pc said I needed to go to rehab and since I am a single mother of 2 children , one of which is bi polar, I did not go.

In the meantime, I have had a neck injury and been given vicodin for pain, then 3 months ago fiorinal #3 once again...I have been taking 6-8 pills per day, and now is day 2 without any at all.

I have stomach cramps, diarrhea, shakiness, insomnia, etc.

How long will this take?

I also know that the barbiturate wd is the most dangerous one, but I have ativan on hand, and took it yesterday, and did sleep the majority of the day.

I am also horribly depressed, and keep crying.

My mother comes to visit today, my sister died 4 years ago, and i then found out how well these pain meds keep one from thinking about their problems.

I really want to stay off of this stuff, and I don't have any way of getting a new script....anyone out there can help me at least see the light?

Will this physical symptoms take a week, a month?  Do I go to an ER and tell them?
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420841 tn?1233761491
what was the choice??? stay here, or die?

i work in the medical field...so i know how they really feel about us...as long as i am honest with them and myself, what did they do for you there?
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They didn't keep me! They gave me a choice----
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420841 tn?1233761491
even if I have only been taking them a short while?

I just got off the phone with my doctor and he said to use a little ativan to control the shakes...and I should be fine in a few days.

has this happen to you before?
how do you know when to go...when it is hell to get in and out of bed?

and i am scared to go, what will happen to my kids?  will the keep me there???

I can't have that, I am all they have...noone else can help, except my mom...so today would be a good day to go i guess.
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199177 tn?1490498534
YOU CAN NOT CT OFF OF BARBS PLZ GO TO ER OR DOCTOR
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420841 tn?1233761491
I know what you mean by the partial seizures from withdrawal from xanax because I had them a few years back (2) from Klonopin,I had decided to just stop taking it...so I felt as if I was in a dream watching myself, and then my eyes would look up to the cekling and such...I finally got my sript refilled, then taered off slowly.

I think that is what I should have done here.

Would the sz just hit me? I wonder....

I think I will call my dr office, unfortunately , i lost my job so our COBRA for insurance is in between, but I think Kaiser will still see me.

I should give a call at least....they very well may have me go in.

thanks so much...I thought this wd would be just any pain med wd that I read about on here, but I am seeing that the barb wd is the dangerous one.

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401095 tn?1351391770
I would have guessed seizures would be a risk as this is the reason this drug is often prescribed...dont stay alone and this drug should be tapered...not CT...a doc supervision is a defint need:  Barbituates affect the GABA receptors in the brain and bring about a reduction in the CNS activity in the brain. This can result in extreme intoxication, lethargy and even death by overdose of the drug. Chronic bartituate users may appear irritable, be prone to periods of agitation or display a lack of emotional control. They may also display neurological symptoms during withdrawal and also when taken to excess. Like benzodiazepines, barbituate dependency usually takes longer to establish and withdrawal symptoms can include seizures.

The withdrawal symptoms you may experience vary significantly depending of which substance you have been using. The onset of these symptoms also vary widely as well. Barbituate withdrawal symptoms may not appear for three to four hours or may be delayed up to eight hours. Regardless of how long it takes for the onset of symptoms, the symptoms will almost always get worse and may not reach the peak of their severity for three to five days & then last 1-2 weeks.

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Avatar universal
Agree....at the point I was in it was no longer a matter of embarrassment but survival...They got me into this mess, they better damn well help me get out!-that being straight from my father's mouth...  
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420841 tn?1233761491
I don't feel like I need to go to the ER just yet...about 2 years ago I just stopped taking my anti anxiety because I wanted to get off of all of the meds I was given when my sister died...about day 6 I was having focal point seizures, but filled my klonopin, took it and felt better.  Then I saw my pc and we titrated it down.

I am thinking that the benzo's will help the barb wd....and I never gotten hooked on those psychologically.

thanks for your help.
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401095 tn?1351391770
I am not a medical doctor, just someone addicted to Xanax and methadone, both legally.  I definately think that the barbituate in Fiorinal could cause seziures.  Your body may have become accostumed to having a certain level of the butibol(Spelling) the barbituate part of the Fiorinal in your body and when you went under that level you have the seziure.  Definately get some medical help the seziures can be FATAL!  I have had partial seziures from withdrawl from Xanax and found out I was having these because I was skipping doses of my medication.  You can stop breathing during a grand-mail seziure, please tell someone in the medical profession.  Barbituates need to be tapered off of, you can't quit cold turkey.  I know it is embarrassing to tell a doc that you were taking such high doses but your life is worth it:)  
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401095 tn?1351391770
I do not know much about barb withdrawal but do know it is hard...I may google it..or you can too   I had the same symptoms as you do on day 2 of hydrocodone withdrawal and each day got better and was fine by day 5...did it at home alone....I also took a benzo to help with the anxiety and such....I am not sure of the risks associated with barb wd    possibly seizures tho, but benzos help with that...just e careful not to trade one for the other...never hurts to get a docs opinion...in my case, I could not as the only er I am allowed to go to is where I work LOL    I never felt sick enough to feel like I needed that anyway...no fun but wasnt life threatening for me....hold on and perhabs someone with babituate experience will post
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I recommend going to the ER and telling them.  They are the best prepared to handle these situations.  I went on day 5...and they helped....wish I had gone sooner....It was hell, but I survived!  I'm here.  Day 10 with no percs.  ;)  Best of luck.
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