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5392063 tn?1390319154

Rough day yesterday...

So I want to start off by saying I am still clean. Thankfully!
I had a rough time yesterday though.
And I lied to you all...yet again.
I had 2 backup plans laying there just waiting for me to be weak enough.
Yesterday I went to the doctor and got a script. I went to the pharmacy and tried to fill it.
Well....it was taking a while and I knew it. I get a call from pharmacist saying dps has red flagged me. They have to call my doctor and tell them and see if they still want to fill it.  I panicked and left. I called other doctor who used to write scripts and she said she can't do it anymore.
So in one fail swoop, both those sources are GONE!
Which I am at this point incredibly thankful for!
I knew yesterday too. I was way more nervous than I should've been.
My body telling me to do it my head telling me not to.
Just stupid....so so stupid!
Agh!!!
So now I'm here thankful I couldn't get them and use. But also I am so incredibly worried. So worried that ill be arrested or something.
God I hope they look the other way and don't do that.
I don't know what all this dps red flagged stuff means. (If anyone had experience or insight that'd be great). I'm in Texas btw.
But I do not that I am NOT using again!
I know I told you all before that my sources are gone.
Well....now they truly are.
In a way it's a relief.
So I'm ready for all your words....good or bad.
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Avatar universal
Wow, you received some fantastic advise and i see that you are being open minded and thats just great.  Just know that our secrets keep us sick, come clean to hubby and the people you trust and love.  Believe me i understand, i had to tell my hubby and doctors and some family and friends that i am an addict, ugh, but until i accepted the fact that i am an addict is when i was really able to start turning my life around and getting the help that i needed.  You so deserve a happy life, take this as your rock bottom and do all you can to educate yourself and your hubby about addiction.  Find aftercare that works for you and dig deep and get working on this, i promise you will be so proud of yourself and most of all you will be happy!!!
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5392063 tn?1390319154
Thank you again.
The funny (not really funny thing) is..today at work I've been feeling decent.
Like last night and yesterday even before this happened I felt like day 1 again. I'm sure it was anxiety now.
But today I'm feeling ok/decent.
Racing heart.....like really bad.
Chills very rarely.
Some sneezing (could be allergies...cedar is horrible right now)
Back aching.
But really that's about it.
Maybe symptom-wise it's up hill from here. Or maybe this scared me enough to feel like these previously horrible symptoms just aren't that bad.
I don't know but I'll take it.
I'm still worried but am calming down.
Still no calls from anyone...
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3197167 tn?1348968606
(((HUGS))))  Thank you for receiving my love girl....and for your open mind and heart.

There's no time like right now to begin being honest.  If you tell your this dr. FIRST...before anything else...that you are clean....and then tell her what has happened....that you made some really bad choices instead of calling her for help.....she WILL be touched by your honesty.  She knows narcotics are addicting and HARD to come of...and if she is the tender and caring soul as you say....she will help you.  She may even have some good suggestions about this pharmacy mess.  The great thing about telling the truth is that you don't have to remember "who" you told "what" to....LOL  You just get to be yourself!

Remember...."just doing it afraid" is a lot better than not doing it at all.

Hang in there....you're seeing the light....and though some tough times may be ahead.....loving yourself and accepting consequences will make you into a woman you can and will be so proud of....PROMISE!!  
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5392063 tn?1390319154
You know what clean...you are right.
You have brought me tears (at work agh!) but in a good way.
I am totally open to therapy by the way. I just don't know how to start with it. It scares me. However, I do see that it is necessary and critical for me to learn coping skills, become ok with myself, and build a better future, etc.

It's hard to admit that I'm an addict and this will be a life long thing. That's where I've been so closed. I don't want to be different. Ya know?
It's hard to say here I am...just raw me and I'm not ever going to be perfect.
It's just hard.
But looking at where I am now, I realize that my child (and hopefully future children) need me to be ok with myself. They need me to love me so they can learn to love themselves.
It's all just a lot to handle.
But I'm trying to be positive and have faith that I CAN do all of this.
As far as the dr. What would I even say to her about this current situation?
I was going to apologize to her for breaking our agreement and going to another doctor, I was going to tell her I AM clean and want to stay that way. And ask for her suggestions and see what she thought was the best approach for me.
That's as much of a plan as I formulated.
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5392063 tn?1390319154
Thanks Vic.
Yeah it was legit. I've been seeing that sic for a whole and as far as I know they've never pulled me up before. I've certainly never seen them do it. Anyhow....I'm sure it was just a matter of time. Frankly I'd rather the dr have said no cuz at least they know your history.
The messed up thing is even with this dr I had them tapering me down as well.
So I was closing that source off I was just leaving me wiggle room...stupidly.
So anyway...I do feel a bit of relief in that there is absolutely no way to get more.....unless I go to the street. And I don't want that, nor would I even know how to do that. I've always been oblivious to drug dealers or whatever even when it was right in front of my eyes.
I want you to know I'm not considering that.
All I'm thinking about is how to STAY CLEAN.
I will look into some outpatient/therapy type stuff and see what I can figure out.
I know I need it anyways...even without all this happening.
I just hope I can survive this with as little harm as possible to my family and my surroundings.
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3197167 tn?1348968606
Well girl..maybe I shouldn't post at all this afternoon....my pain levels are off the chart and my hubby tells me I'm grumpy.  But I'm gonna share with you any way...cause I've been following you and reading all your posts for 9 months now.  This current predicament isn't THE problem....it's just one more consequence of the downward progressive spiral of addiction.

As long as your belief and attitude about addiction is that it is a shameful secret that must be closely guarded, that you are some weak woman who simply isn't strong willed enough....you will continue NOT asking for help and only just put out the fires as they occur.

In this latest situation here....you are returning to 1 of your 3 drs (but the one that put you on a taper plan back in Dec) yet you have told us that you are NOT going to tell her you are in hot water at the pharmacy yet again.  You asked awhile back HOW to you find the strength to quit lying to your hubby, your family, yourself?  I had to become miserable myself.

Your current mess isn't what concerns me really.  What concerns me is that you don't understand that you have a different brain chemistry that makes you an addict.  You don't realize that you are a beautiful woman, wife, mother, daughter-in-law, good employee, friend, etc.  You said you didn't have any coping skills....and you know that you need to gain some.  You have a substance abuse history that dates back to your teens....and my hope is that you will learn all  you can about the nature of addiction....  And learn it isn't a personality flaw of some kind.

You know in your head what you need to do...that's a start for sure.  But unless this latest pharmacy crisis prompts you into NEW ACTION....more negative consequences of this disease await you.  You work in a hospital environment where you are around drugs and handle prescriptions.  You know how the system works...and it's already stung you twice now.

You said inpatient AND outpatient were NOT opitions.  You said you were fully aware you needed therapy...but won't get into any.  You don't want to go to meetings cause someone you know might see you and you can't grasp the higher power concept because you aren't a Christian.  You don't have to be an Christian to develop a relationship with a power that is greater than you.  You just don't.

I'm also concerned about your bloodwork....your kidneys (gfr#) and your liver enzymes being elevated.
Your drug/alcohol history is beginning to manifest itself and I don't hear you taking any of this seriously enough to be prompted into some new choices.

I'm sure some will say I'm "calling you out"...or being harsh to you...but know what?....I REALLY care about you.  I have followed you since you joined last April.  I've heard all the BS in your head lying to you.  I know your marriage is on rocky ground.....I know you're scared....I know you think being an addict is something to be ashamed of....but it isn't.  It's a brain dysfunction.....it's truly an illness....but unlike some other illnesses...we have a choice whether or not we want to stop the progression of our disease.
I so hope you receive what I shared as a huge gesture of love and a take this latest wake up call as a gift.  The power of choice is one of our greatest gifts in this life....I hope you find the courage to make new choice.  Sometimes...we just have to "Do It Afraid".
We're here for you.....you know that....time to get honest and surrender~  

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4522800 tn?1470325834
Hi..I am so sorry for all of this..Just what you need right now while you are going through Detox..Stress & Drama is one of are worst enemy's.
I have read lots on here and sometimes it has to do with the Insurance Companies..If you have Insurance they will only pay every 30 days..If they see that the refills are coming from different Drs or to early it can send up a Flag..I am not sure if you used Insurance or Cash. In my opinion what I think would help right now is get into some IOP or Therapy or even a group with a counselor..Have them sign a piece of paper showing that you are showing up..I do believe you can do the same in AA/NA. It would look good for you that you have been getting Support. Any out Side Addiction Support..Just have a binder and dated it and have them sign..I really think this would help be a plus on your side. They just want to see that you are trying to get help and that you made a mistake when you where in your Drug thinking mind. Other wise I would call or do some research so you will know what might happen. Maybe even talk to a Attorney that deals with this all the time. The DEA is so busy these days and they see this all the time..Hopefully you will be small potatoes to them,,BUT it is still a Fraud but try getting help to show them you are in Recovery. One thing I am confused about is that you had a scrip from a Dr right?? Most Dr sit there right in the office and look you up on the computer to make sure you did not already pick up some. I was with someone when they did this..They just got embarrassed and walked out..Nothing was ever reported...They also can see all the Meds you are on..I wish you peace and try to calm down just a bit..Some things are not in our hands but Gods..Trust me I know with all the crisis I have been dealing with after having almost 16 Months clean from many, many years of Substance abuse..Hang Tight the results should not be as bad as you think..
Sending a Big Prayer Your Way!
Bless
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4810126 tn?1503942735
Shoulda', woulda', etc!! ;)) Believe me a lot of folks get into much deeper trouble before clarity descends. It's just the nature of addiction. So, don't beat yourself up & yes! absolutely, focus on the positive. (So glad you're open to the breathwork. It really does help.)

I'm reallllly glad that you have a Dr. (who happens to be a caring soul!) who you opened up to about your  addiction & I'm super  proud that you phoned her. It's great that you're able to take some forward, positive initiative in this situation & for your future right now. I'm sure it was a relief putting in the call. (I hope she gets back to you soon.) If you open up to her about what's been going on, maybe she'll be able to advise you about the best way to handle this whole situation. (Again, you know best, as you know her best.) Trust your instincts.

I know you're frightened right now & it seems impossible that you'd ever be crazy enough to engage with opiates again but wild as it might sound -- after things die down, it's highly likely that your habit will pull at you again. So, this thing with your Dr. is an opportunity to put some structure in place to start protecting yourself now.

You're doing wonderfully. Work will be over  for you before you know it! ;-) Please, let us know how you're doing & what's up. We're here!
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5392063 tn?1390319154
Evolver you have been such a help. Thank you so much.
I am now at work and "chained" to my desk sitting here with nothing but my thoughts.
I will try to do the meditation to calm me throughout the shift.
I know all else is out of my control.
What will happen will happen.
I have placed a call into my physician...the only one who knows of my addiction...the one who set me up on previous taper schedule. (She is not aware if this current situation to my knowledge).
Since I am 9days clean I am going to discuss with her my options for anxiety and continued cleanliness plan.
She is a helpful caring soul and I hope she still has some sympathy for me.
I will not discuss this situation with her unless she is made aware.
I just want her advise on what to do with my symptoms....
Which is what I should've done in the first place instead of going to dr to get more meds.
I am trying to be positive and put positive energy out there in hopes that positivity comes back to me.
I have learned my lesson...finally....this is life altering life or death fight for my life and family stuff. I should've realized that before now...
I should've!
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4810126 tn?1503942735
This might help: Try to relax your facial, neck, shoulder, back, stomach & thigh muscles. Then, breathe deeply from your belly -- your core. Smile gently when you do this. Don't strain -- just focus on a point about two inches below your navel & inhale like no one else is around and you've just loosened your belt after a large meal -- let your belly & the small of your back expand but do it naturally -- don't strain. Do this slowly, then exhale slowly through your nose. Try to take 10 breaths this way, simply observing your breath as it fills you & leaves you. If racing thoughts intervene, just start again by relaxing your muscles, focusing on that place & 'watching' your breath. You can visualize breathing out stress/anxiety as you exhale through your nose. This is the basis of meditation & actually helps calm the sympathetic & parasympathetic nervous system. Walking also helps. You may only be able to focus on 2 or 3 breaths at first but it's cumulative. Take the time to do this when you feel overwhelmed. I'm sending you prayers & healing. ;-))
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5392063 tn?1390319154
I'm reluctant to actually admit anything on a public forum ya know?
I mean I made mistakes. Hopefully the consequence aren't too severe.
Hopefully I can just take this as the huge lesson that it is.
Hopefully someone along the way will have compassion.
I don't know. I'm so freaked out. My heart is racing and now I have to go to work. Ugh!
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5347058 tn?1381188426
That's what this sounds like to me too. When I was on Norco, there were many times the pharmacy had to verify my script with the doctor. It is just an added measure for them to cover their butts and prevent prescription fraud.
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5904477 tn?1390245415
My friends attorney said that the system can flag you when you are getting multiple scripts. I guess it all depends. When was your last script before this one filled and was it the same doctor?
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5392063 tn?1390319154
Script was legit and no that's not why I was flagged.
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4810126 tn?1503942735
Btw, I don't know about other states but it is now the law in Massachusetts that all opiate prescriptions must be phoned in & checked w/ the prescribing physician for verification. Is this the only reason you believed you were flagged? WAS the script legit?
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5392063 tn?1390319154
Have no heard from pharmacy or doctor as of yet. This all happened yesterday late afternoon.
From what I can gather the DPS doesn't actually red flag you, the doctor or pharmacy can look you up and decide whether or not they feel comfortable prescribing to you.
The pharmacist could have said that just because it whatever.
They did tell me they will call prescribing dr.
After that I have no idea what's happening.
I never meant for it to be like this. Evolver is right...when going through a doctor somehow it feels less illegal/wrong.
Plus there's no immediate consequence.
Well now I may have to deal with serious consequences.
Maybe I won't...who knows.
My my heart has not stopped racing. I'm sick to my stomach thinking about what could happen.
And now I have to get ready to go into work...at a hospital for 8 hours.
My god...what if I'm hauled off from my job.
I'm so scared. Ugh!
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4810126 tn?1503942735
Hi ;-)

Okay: Actually, kiting is the wrong term (that's check fraud) I should have said just straight up forging/falsifying prescriptions. (I must be watching too many black & white gangster movies & not sleeping enough! Yup, like just last night ;-))

&...No, if you've already been flagged it's in the system. You've got to understand that the pharmacist & Dr. are afraid for their own licenses. If they stepped out of line, they'd be the 'big game' in this hunt! You might come clean to your Dr, though if you truly, intuitively feel that he/she might help & not wishful thinking. I'd come absolutely clean to him/her & say that you're afraid, that you've realized you're an addict -- have been struggling -- but need help. Ask for names of Addiction specialists, therapists or whatever. Even if the Dr. is not well-acquainted with addiction, I don't think that this course of action would make it worse (unless you sense hostility when you contact him/her!) It would show effort, concern & honesty. You could also tell them of your clean time (which happened before the scrip incident!;-) & that you really want this to work for you & your family. Again, you must go by your intuition & your read of the folks involved. If you decide to do it, simply tell your truth the way you tell it here!

Please, let us know what you think & Hold Fast! ;)3x
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You say that they said that they had to call the dr to see if they wanted to fill a script? Did you ever here back from them or from your drs office?
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5904477 tn?1390245415
In my friends case it was flagged by the new tracking system so pleading to the doctor or pharmacy did nothing but admit guilt. I am not really sure what would be the best approach besides being clean!  I wish I could give you more help and hope!
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Hi 3xs I read your post, and I agree that you need to take some deep breaths and this could be a blessing in disguise. What did you go to the Dr for to get a script? How many different drs have you been going to and are you refilling overlapping scripts? I read up about the pharmacy "red flagging" this AM after seeing your post. I am a post surgery chronic pain patient and have not ever used illegally or dr shopped but it states that a pharmacist has the final digression to fill or not to fill. That chronic pain patients are subjected to their scrutiny as well. I think that them calling to verify the condition doesn't sound out of the norm, however if they ran a report and saw multiple drs that would.
Im proud of you that you came on here and came clean and that you are on day 9, you can do this. Im praying for you XXOO
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5392063 tn?1390319154
Do you think it's a stupid idea to call the pharmacist and plead my case?
Saying look I'm clean I was weak I'm a mom please don't hurt me. Let me get help? Or to call my dr and say the same?
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5392063 tn?1390319154
Evolver...
Thank you for your kind words. You've put me at a bit of ease.
I DO see this as a blessing...a kick in the butt.
The worry will remain I'm sure.
What is kiting?
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5904477 tn?1390245415
Great post Evolver!  I sure wish I could express myself like you do!  
3xs - I sent you a pm to explain friends situation. Keep hanging on tight. You can beat this!
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4810126 tn?1503942735
Morning & Congrats on day 9!

I know it probably doesn't feel like it right now but I read this as a blessing in disguise - a true wake-up call. It resonates with some of my own experience. To continue would mean engaging on the street. It just gets worse from there (believe me!)  I guess people who go through Drs. have a special challenge as they're allowed to maintain the illusion longer that what they're doing isn't truly harmful or dangerous. I know you've struggled with quitting for quite a while & I just wanted to say that I admire your determination. My hat is off to you for posting about the truth today. (So glad you did! ;-)

Listen, yes, they might investigate you but unless you've been 'kiting' scripts or selling the pills on, it's most likely that if anything happens, it will have to do with getting into some sort of outpatient therapy/meetings. (Not a bad idea, eh?) Their primary targets are 'croakers' (or Drs. who write unwarranted prescriptions) & users who deal. You're not going to jail if your record is clean! It's possible that they'll try to throw a scare into you. I think it might be a smart move to get yourself to some sort of counseling or meetings ASAP. That way, even if they do come to you, you've sought help. (Have this help documented.) Though this might be your immediate motivation for seeking help, it might be the best thing you ever did for yourself & your family. (Blessing in disguise?)

Deep breaths! I totally understand your anxiety & I would probably react the same way but I believe you're going to be just fine. Please, try to believe this too! (Also, remember that you're currently on the detox 'roller coaster' emotionally, which might magnify all of this.)

Again, I think it's wonderful that you're here, that you've hung in there & that you've shown such grit with the truth!! ;-)
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