Suboxone Plz help??

[Familyman239]

Not sure if I'm in the right area to ask specific question about Suboxone tapering. If I'm not, Plz let me know what I should be looking for.

My question is extremely important. I'm on suboxone 3plus years I've started at 6mg to now .75mg. When got to 1.25mg I stayed there up and down for 5-6months. In the past 9 days iv gotten down from 1.25 to now .75. Here's what I've done exactly.
I jumped from 1.25mg to 1mg  after 5days of 1mg went to .75mg today will be my 4th day on .75mg. Last night was worst for my taper so far. I started feeling the wds "muscle spasms, anxiety, and the lower back pain" I fought the mental part and was able to fall asleep. But 5:30am my boy woke up and my brain just turned on, like I was wide eyed awake and the wds were more intense. After getting my son a drink and breakfast ready. I laid down for about 20min just to c if I could mentally shut off wds. And I Couldn't it kept getting more intense.  Now I was able to make it to the 23-24hr mark of takin next dose. But tomorrow I Had planned to go down to .50mg. Do u think I'm going to fast or should I let the wds come??? Like Im wondering if it's better to have minor wds?  So the half life catches up, and when I jump hopefully it won't be so intense... Or do I Go back and make another 4 days of .75mg? Like the taper guide that "robert325" suggest? Not sure if u know who "Robert325" is? But if u google his taper youll c what I'm talking about. It seems to be the best results for people tapering successfully. From what I've read.  I just hate the thought of starting another 4days at that .75 taper again. Everyday ***** so to get down to the minimum 4days with no signs of wd seems to make me not so panicky. But I'm trying to get as low as possible like .25 or even .125 every other day, Then jump. I've tried jumping at heigher doses but I CANT take the wds by the 4th day. So that's why I'm trying to get as low as possible and even be able to take medicine at least between every 48 hours to let all of this long half life catch up. I've been taking  subs a long time so not sure if that has to do with anything. I plan to jump in about 2-3 weeks
So I'm trying to make this as easy as possible for when I do, I'm freaking after feeling the 24hr more intense than usual wds. Plz anyOne with any input or advice. I'm all ears. Please help me.  Thxs for reading.
This site means the world to me, throughout the day I constantly think about everybody that I've been talking to, it's gr8!  Hope everyone on this site has a blessed and productive day. God bless

[motye51]

Here...u now know one person that has sucessfully jumped off suboxone and am now over 104 days clean so YES, it can be done! Here in Louisiana, the sub drs don't seem to taper either. Not as soon as they should anyway.

[vicki595]

And there's a megaphone icon on the top left of the forum page. Click on that for forum info-

[vicki595]

The site won't even print your email in a comment so, no, you can't leave your email.  You CAN private message members. Hover your mouse over a member's name and an icon will appear; click on "leave a message".

Also, at the top left of the forum page there are symbols; an "I" and a "wheel".
Click on one at time and you'll read some info about navigating the site along with the "rules".

I understand your feeling about tapering. With sub, not a lot of people drop from 2mg. Many get down to crumbs before jumping. Read through the forum and look for members who are also taking SUBOXONE or who took it at one time and send a private message to them. Members will find you, as well.

Hang in there for now and remember to let yourself adjust to each dose change before continuing.

[Amandag78]

Yeah your doing a rapid detox at the moment. You can either keep going and jump, or jump now or like others said give it a while between each reduce.
But your already in withdrawals now, you could think of jumping now : )

[Familyman239]

I had know idea people couldn't help with tapering on this site. That's Crazy to me. imo Every person I know in my life is stuck on subs, they can't stay off. Doctors and my own dr prescribe them for maintenance. Around here in south FL they don't have a clue how to taper patients. They tell you to jump at 2mgs and if u complain they just say ok you're just not ready to quit and put u back on 24-32mg a day scripts. It's a FreaKin joke! All about $!! Couldn't make this stuff up.  Very sad. The only reason I'm saying this is People need help getting off, they don't know what the hell there doing. I've yet to meet a person face to face that's successfully gotten off suboxone.  I now know that if u have a fast detox using subs that it can b a miracle drug. So gotta say with my own experience that the real experts are the people that have been on the Suboxone roller coaster and have successfully gotten off. So am I aloud to leave my email here out for people to talk to off the site? Like at gmail.com I gotta go read these rules. Seriously I need guidance from people that's been through it. Biggest fair is jumping and not getting threw it and then gettin back to the chase. Screwing everything I've achieved so far

Recovery plan is meetings locally and have support from all my family. The biggest is got new cell # and recently changed careers, 3months ago so im away from all my old users. I'm currently being trained to take over the family biz building homes with my pops so when I'm n the paws phase I'll b alright. He'll help me push through this

[motye51]

Yeah, we can't give specific taper.advice but in order to not feel the w/d u do need to go slower. That's what ***** about the subs, their unbelievable half life! From what I've read, the drs that do actually do the taper do it really slow, like months for a mg drop. If u can get some help, spouse, friend, parent, and time, my opinion would be to just go for it, but having help would be a lot more helpful. My opinion though.  

[vicki595]

Hi there- We can talk about sub on this forum but we're not allowed to offer taper plans, unfortunately.  I can tell you that your taper is way too fast though...can you slow it down?  Give your body enough days to adjust to the drop before you drop again; at least a week.  You may need to get down to crumbs before you jump and that's fine as long as you stay on the path.

What about recovery care and support? Anything lined up?