HI WELCOME TO the forum if you go to the top of the page you will see a search box
put sub treatments in that box and hit the button it will give you what your looking for
sorry your having a hard time navigating the site........Gnarly
YOU PEOPLE ARE NOT HELPING ONE BIT. You seem to have noc lue what youre talking about. Does it help or not? Damn
I take Sub and work as an advocate for Sub assisted recovery and am in college to be an addictions specialist.
What I know for certain is that there are many doctors out there prescribing Sub that have no clue what they are doing, in turn, patients leave these doctors feeling lied to,cheated, misinformed, etc. It is a shame, but until all people take it upon themselves to get the facts, people will disagree, people will blame sub for all sorts of things.
One fact is that while taking opiates, the brain receptors are messed up.Sub helps get them back in check.If you are not on it long enough, it will do nothing but put off the inevitable.Also, the drug is only part of a plan- you still need to re educate yourself to recover.Many people take Sub and do nothing to change their thinking, and wind up right back where they started.
There will always be drama over sub- and that's OK The people who do well with it should spread the word on how it helped them just like the ones that think it is a bad thing.We can learn from both sides of the argument!
Kitten.......when you think about it, a person is already (in essence) hooked on Sub before they even take it. It's an opiate, and if you take it, that means that you were already addicted to opiates. I promise I'm not trying to be a smart @ss, that's just the best way I could put it. Peace, KLM
Great post, Ga Guy. You've obviously done your homework, as those are the FACTS. Not everyone's experience is identical, but what you just said is true and applies to everyone who takes it (correctly). I was on it for several months, but it got way too expensive to continue, so I swapped to MMT. To change over to Methadone, I had to stop taking the Sub for four days (according to my doc) and I can honestly say that for me, the WD's from Sub were not as bad as when I tried to quit Oxycontin or Dilaudid c/t. Also, I'd like to say that these options are what works for me. And that I learned this by trying just about everything else first. Abstinence can work for some, it just wasn't working for me. There's plenty of options, dont' be afraid to try 'em all.
There's a ton of misinformation in your post...especially concerning the "getting sick as a dog if trying to abuse oxy's" while on Sub. If your Sub level is above 4, the Oxy will have little to no effect, and will take unusually higher dosages in relation to the amount of Sub over that magic 4mg threshold. the misconceptions come from the naloxone which is placed in with the bupe to seemingly stope people frm making an iv solution and shooting the suboxone directly into the vein. If taken sublingually, the naloxone is destroyed in the gut and has no effect. The primary goal of Sub, and an area many have gotten away from, is that Sub places addiction into remission so that the real work of recovery can be put in place (without a 30 day stay in rehab and the requisite lack of income).