withdrawls

[bpri]

Been taking roxy`s now for 5 years. Up to around 200 mg a day. when i run short on script, i buy from street at about 600- $800 a month. Normal dose is 165 mg a day, but always take more. Lower back pain, discs. I heard w/d are worse the older you get, at 50, how long for w/d`s and how bad?? anyone know.

[Undertow71]

Having been right where you are, u need to get help and surgery,the bad part?  is that when you do have surgery pain meds won't help much for it,and you will be recovering unabl to get more when you run out due to being laid up recovering,best thing is get the tolerance down before surgery and pace yourself if possible.
    And surgery does not always work 100 percent,but the chance i would take.took me 4 years to get back going again but i did it,then broke my collar bone and put a hole in my lung.Starting the process over again in a short time.Not as bad tho i will say.But at that intake,mine was similiar after all of it.Don't go cold turkey without help.
   U see where i live they do not do detox in general,the ony place i got that was in MHU.
      Life i don't think will ever be normal again like we remember,it will be a different normal with a daily struggle day by day 1 at a time.
  Suboxone is an opiate blocker.Opiates will do nothing for 3 days minimum.And then if you start again your tolerance goes sky high in my experience.
  The only thing that will help is something for nerve pain,i would seriousely try that ,it has worked for me,Gabapentin ot Lyrica,u need to see a dr. as soon as possible imho.

[bpri]

And as you can tell, i Just decided to take the leap. I want so bad to be free from this sh** but I also can't stand the pain, i do a/c work and appliance repair, i am constatntly in attics, on roofs, and bending, kneeling lifting heavy equipment and tools. i don'y want surgery, but if i can't live a normal life, without pain meds, and pain, i am stuck in hole.

[bpri]

did not see response until now? how are you? i hope clean and free, I heard it can take a month before really being free, especially the older you get. see my below question and maybe you know something?

I had a question before, but this is kinda different, I was taking up 200 mg Roxycodone a day for severe back pain, i got tired of the waking up to a pill bottle everyday. I  Started taking suboxone 36 hours ago and no roxy's. I don'y feel teh w/d's but my back pain is getting pretty bad, right front from L2 and my entire left side groin and leg all the way into my calf, and lower back exagerated terribly. Got suboxone on my own, can i take oxy with the suboxone to alleviate the pain if it gets to bad? and how long will pain be exagerated ?? anyone know. I now know why i was taking the roxy's but don't want to anymore. am i stuck?

[Death_Of_A_Disco_Dancer]

Well. I've never had a tolerance like that before. But I can tell you my case and I guess it might give you some idea of what can happen..

My addiction came from drugs in general. Drugs of all sorts. Drugs most people have never even heard of. So my situation is different. I have a been a solid drug abuse from the age of 15-23. So about 8 years.

Im w/d'ing right now,actually. In a half hour will be 3 day mark. I was blowing about 15mg or oxymorphone a day. And I had a tolerance of about 60mg of oxycodone. I tapered down from that tolerance with about 30-40mg of hydrocodone for about 2 days.

Then I jumped off the feather boat. And unlike a lot of the people on here, I was to weak to do it cold turkey. Straight up. I have been taking about 100mg of 5htp a day and this really has  been a miracle for me. If you have never used 5htp I highly recommend it. Just don't take vitamin B6 with it.

I wake up, drink coffee(which can make the w/d symptoms worse) but I still have to work and go to school. When I get home around 4pm I dose up (and by this time I almost a complete wreck) 6grams of Bali kratom (a legal opiate agonist). This almost completely takes away the symptoms. Then I take about 6 more grams around midnight before I go to bed. Last night I took 100mg or 5hpt before bed and then smoked some cannabis. Not a lot. Only a few hits. After this combo, I got better sleep than I have in about 8 years. Since I started making bad choices.

So far my least favorite w/d symptoms are the RLS and the insomnia. The only cure I have found for this is my little kratom+5htp+cannabis combo. It was like heaven. Earlier in the day I was throwing up. Didn't eat anything. Shaking and had extreme depression. The kind that gets your hands on the handle of your shotgun. But after this little cocktail all was well.

I acknowledge that swapping out kratom and 5htp is no miracle cure and that it will also take some doldrums to get those 2 monkeys off of your back. But I personally would rather taper off from kratom and 5htp.

Day 1=depression, anxiety
Day 2=Sickness. and worse depression
Day 3 = The worst yet. I have the "black hole" stomach feeling and pretty bad depression.

I hope day 4 gets a bit better. But Ive been walking on feathers for about 4-5 years (at points my tolerance would be upwards 120mg of oxycodone) so I expect the physical effects might not peak until day 4-5. God I hope not. Honestly, I could do cold turkey but I need to keep up production at work and school. I choose a REALLY bad time to quit opiates so I need a crutch till I get everything under control. I got my hands on H and I knew I needed to quit not or I could kiss my *** goodbye.

Anyways. Yeah man. I have been reading about this ALOT in the last 3 days and my consensus on w/d's is that they are way different for anyone. If I were you I would expect to be in hell for about 7 days minimum. Take some time off of work and just find something to help occupy yourself. From what I am reading, the worst part is the PAWS(post acute withdrawal syndrome). Severe or not, they bring people to their knees like a lost child. This is basically your brain having a hard time repairing itself from all the long term dope use. So depression, anxiety and insomnia seem to the common ones that linger around.

IMO. expect to have a lot of thinking time for a solid month and do what you can to put off any responsibilities that you might have that month. Sobriety hits you like a sack of bricks. Coming back to reality is more difficult than the actual w/d. I've been crying a lot.

anyways. If you are going to do this and you plan on using crutches, like alcohol or benzo's then I suggest you use kratom and 5thp instead to help with the symptoms. They are less harmful. And cannabis if you are into that sorta thing.

You can do it bro. Also, don't try to quit unless you really want to. If you are set on doing it then you will.

I would love to hear some updates on how this goes for you. I will be praying for you man !

       Good luck. Keep that PositiveMentalAttitude (PMA)

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