Old timers sucess

[zzzaaaccckkk]

iam on day 8 off oxy did w/d. Yada, yada, yada. But now that this sight has helped me so greatly. I found its making me worried now, when once it gave me hope. Every post is people looking for help, and you wonderful people give it ur all. I had going into today a head strong, determined mind that iam done. Iam there, or was going to be sooner then most. But were r the success stories, yes I've seen sum great ones" I've been clean 70 some days " or "going on day twelve" I know this is a support system. But damn it is sucking me down. We or at least I need to hear these stories, not just that the shaking n the lack of sleep or depression will end given time.  I think we need to hear the old timers who dont relapse and r perfect. I dont want this to be a chronic disease. I know these stories r there. We should hear more. Or our the ones whove succeded moved on from this forum. Again I know this is a support site n advice. But it would be so nice to hear more success. I also know my comments can upset people, so iam apologizing now!

[wait2long]

"A D I C T I O N"   FORUM....NEED I SAY MORE...

[toxictome]

Just my opinion...this IS a chronic disease...but like cancer, it can be put into remission by taking care of yourself and putting down the substances that feed it.....

I think anyone who posts anything on this forum is the start of a success story, as they are reaching out to others.....to help themselves...it has to start somewhere

[Greatgreebo]

I'm with IBK

[GoingToMakeIt]

I was addicted to Vicodins for over a year. (This time) I had a Dr that asked me if I thought I had a problem. I said yes. He then helped me with a taper plan. Well that just didn't work for me. If there was a full bottle there I couldn't take them 1 at a time. So when i got the flu at the end of this last year. I quit c/t. That was Saturday, Dec 1st. I believe I found this forum the next day. What a blessing this place has been. I have not taken one since. I truly believe that part of anyone's success in recovery is taking lots of vitamins and supplements. The body takes months to rebuild itself. We need to feed it the right ingredients for it to do the job. 58 days.

[IBKleen]

"Try to stay open minded, and try to look at it from others points of views as well.. "

Here..here.....

[oxyaddict420]

Man you have to be the most up and then down again person I have met on here.. Sometimes you seem so empathetic and understanding to alot of people being very supportive, then other times literally minutes laster from a positive post and you will start going off on how it needs to be hard, and needs to be TOUGH LOVE, and other things as well..

what it really is man, is that different people need different approaches at this.  some people react better to tough love as you put it. Most people I see on here needing and asking for help just are confused and dont have answers, or more importantly just an open ear from a person that has been where they are. I personally react to the tough love tactic in a defensive way, feeling like people are attacking me. I dont need to feel that way when I am taking the time to get on here, be honest about my addiction which isnt easy, and then share it with everyone.. alot of people feel the same way.. It is nice to hear the facts, but at the same time made to feel like there is hope and that we care.

I notice that when you get it in your head about an opinion that you think is the way to go, THATS IT!! Yet it isn't their are hundreds of others with their own ways of thinking what works and what doesn't. So judging someone, or saying one way is not as good as the other isnt the key in my opinion.

We just need to be open to hearing new ideas and fresh tactics as to how to approach our addictions and how to help our PERSONAL RECOVERY. Because that is what it is, a personal thing we each go through individually that can be different and the same also in many ways..  I do not think you are a bad person zack, and I want to make that clear bro, but at the same time I dont believe that there is just 1 RIGHT WAY ABOUT DOING THIS! Try to stay open minded, and try to look at it from others points of views as well..

CONGRATS ON DAY 8 FOR YOU

GOOD LUCK ON DAY 9

YOU CAN DO THIS

WE ARE HERE FOR EACHOTHER

[girlybuff]

I could label myself an astronaut if I wanted to but it wouldn't make it so.

[jpeaboogs]

You're over the hump Zack, I was an addict for 5 years and I've been clean now for exactly 30 days. It was a tough f--ing ride but now i feel 10 times better. The first thing that came back was a new sense of self. I was more aware of how i looked, acted, talked and so on. It's like everything around me was good to have back. On the Vics I was numb mentally and physically. I was a functioning addict, I went to work, raised my family and more, but all the while i was pissed off and tired. I don't know if you exercise. But if you don't, take the time to walf or jog every other day. My recovery was accelerated by exercising. I felt like **** and didn't have the energy or wanted to exercist but it helped. I would walk when i started having cravings. 8 days is excellent, keep it up

jpea

[toxictome]

last post...i added again..it IS day 4...i'm going to stop posting..I can't think straight today..sorry

[toxictome]

oops, make that 5...I'm having trouble w/ the menatl part///haha

[toxictome]

oh...and today is day 4, clean and sober for me....

[toxictome]

well..here's my experience,strength, and hope. I am a recovering alcoholic,17+yrs. I still attend AA mtgs. weekly. I know one drink is too many , and a thousand is not enough. I know I can't drink, because i never know where it will lead. But this I do know. I started messing w/ pills about 2+ yrs. ago, and thought "I've got control of this...I won't hit bottom like I did drinking." ..well,somehow the pills got control of me...I didn't have any serious consequences (YET), except on my mind and body and spending alot of money....but had I continued I would have started the slide down the slippery slope. I KNOW I can't use anything that is mind altering...the same merry-go-round ride will start up  again.I knew this in the back of my mind...but I couldn't handle the emotional pain I was in anymore...just one pill, ah I feel better...and we all know where it goes from there.

CUNNING, BAFFLING, POWERFUL.........

[GoingToMakeIt]

I believe that even genetics plays a role in those leaning toward any kind of addiction. It has already been shown to play a part in alcoholism. IMO

[frootbar]

i see your point...
just my personal feelings, and i used to drink tons, now, i can have
a few if i want, and i never revert back...it's not any problem...
fb.

[KeepTheHope]

the problem with the tough love thing is that its a free country...if something makes me so uncomfortable then I'll just leave...and wont come back next week. or whatever. so theres a fine there with tough love.

[GoingToMakeIt]

I disagree to a point. Usually if you were an addict, your bodies chemistry has been changed forever. If you start back up, you will be back to where you were in no time. Then it will get even worse than before. Is this a defeatist attitude? No, it is based on statistics and experience of other addicts. If you are armed with the possibility thet you could easily relapse. You have a fighting chance to beat it.

[frootbar]

i like what you said.
i do not believe you are always an addict.
that is self-defeatest, it's like labelling yourself
as always a disease or problem, not the human
being you are.
you do not have to be an addict, or whatever forever,
if you do not want to.  
fb.

[girlybuff]

There are many different types of addicts.  Some get caught up in it for that moment (however long it takes) and can stop and some need to keep themselves in check for the rest of their lives.  I think you oversimplify a bit.
I have 6 years clean from alcohol and recreational drugs and I STILL go to AA meetings.  I go for the newcomer so they see there is hope.  I go to keep my attitudes in check, the attitudes that went along with being an alcoholic for close to 15 years.  BUT, I no longer go because I feel like drinking... that obsession has been lifted a long LONG time ago.
When people continue to go to meetings and therapy and such it is not to stop themselves from using, as that goes away over time.  It's to deal with the issues that got you there in the first place, the underlying issues, that I would venture to guess you haven't dealt with otherwise you wouldn't generalize the way you do.
As there is a great difference between being CLEAN and being SOBER, I congratulate you on being clean and hope it stays with you forever.

[zzzaaaccckkk]

now I have to divorce my wife! J/k

[scrappyguy]

I  am sure some might be upset weith my comments, but I want you to know that all addictions don't last a life time.. Of course those at AA or NA or any other rehab or detox center would like you to think so because, 1. thats their job, 2. thats how they get paid

I had a meth addiction for about 3 yers, I had never used drugs in my life until this on fated day when meth walked my way. As severe as the addiction was, I did go to rehab for 28 days, and that was mostly for detox, and when that was done so was I. It will be 10 years meth free on July 28th.. no extra therapy, no group nothing. That is not to say that aome do not benefit, but not all need it. and I will never speak into existance that I am an addict!

Where the problem lies is figuring out what was there that made you turn to an ooutside source for temporary relief... although your choice of self soothong may have been an illegal substance, it could have been food. Deal with whats going on underneath, that will help yop get to what is at the surface.. And No, you are not an addict forever!

A former addict
Michael

[IBKleen]

zack, are you doing a Nancy Reagan on us? Just say no?

Geez..why didn't I think of that 40 years ago.... I'll have to remember that.

[frootbar]

life is not easy these days.  i'm not so sure anyone is weak per se, but i see your point
also.
however, just like smoking and drinking, sometimes it takes a bunch of tries before one
is successful.
fb.

[zzzaaaccckkk]

or maybe iam not realizing that iam an addict. I just read my own post, just ignore it. Iam  like I football coach or that guy at work that pushes u to the break that this is ridiulous. Were a bunchbof wimps. Just Fricken do it already. Tough love. I know my grandfather would have kick my a$$. Or my uncle Lt. Col in the air force if they were alive. Dont we need to be toughened n not pampered maybe the pampering and attetion is what drives us to go back to the drugs n withdraw. We miss the attention. Ok bring on the assualt people, just trying to go deeper into our problem.

[alittleangel2001]

Hi all I am new to this site. I started to read all the post and learned i am not alone. I am assicted to nocor i been taking them for 8 months. I quit cold turkey on friday am having a real hard time esp sleeping and with chills. I am taking a muscle relaxer and trazadone they do seem to help some. Just cant sleep at all.