KICKING OXYCONTIN & HEROIN ADDICTION COLD TURKEY

[sickofthechase]

hello all. this is my first post on here. i am trying to kick an oxy/heroin addiction. today is day one. i feel like i have to do it cold turkey and none of this methadone **** and weening yourself off. that dosent work. i feel as if it just prolongs the inevitable. i have been hooked on oxys for about 2 yrs and just started sniffing heroin.... BLAH BLAH BLAH
we have heard it all, anyways... what do you think of going cold turkey? should i try the thomas recipe? i am hoping to find some support. i havent taken oxys in about a week but i have been using heroin(sniffing). i think the oxys are out of my system. is it easier to withdrawal from oxys or heroin? i have withdrawn from oxys, not by choice, and it was hard the very first day. it seems as if the heroin hasnt been that bad the WD that is. who am i kidding its only day one.

[AlexNixon]

Everyone is different. Going cold turkey can be dangerous though. I'm on 200-260mg per day and I tried going cold turkey while using clonidine. I didn't even make it through 24 hours, and I was in a treatment facility. I'm 19 and have been on oxy for 2 years. One thing that I'm trying now, is a monitored methadone tapering program. What happens is, you stay on your normal dose until the day before, then you go cold turkey for 12-24 hours to let the oxy start to leave your system, then the following day start methadone. What will happen, is they will match your methadone dose to the dose of oxycontin (there's a formula to figure it out). Every day they cut down the dose of methadone by a certain amount (it varies depending on the dosage) until the final day you will be off the methadone and be completely clean and sober from the oxys and methadone. Methadone works as a synthetic opioid, so it functions in your brain the same way heroin and oxycontin, but without the high. It will prevent the first stage of acute withdrawal, which is always the hardest. The inevitable muscle pain, spasms and contractions. For me that was the worst. I couldn't sit or lie down for more than a few seconds without having to thrash around, which helps while you do so, but as soon as you calm down it comes back. The methadone prevents that acute first stage, and makes it a lot more comfortable. With the methadone tapering program, it minimizes the withdrawal symptoms such as nausea, pain, diarrhea, vomiting, restless legs, insomnia, hot/cold flashes, the shakes, and everything else that comes with it. In some cases, if the dose is high enough, and administered properly, it's possible to experience a very comfortable withdrawal, with little to no symptoms. Everyone is different, and will have a different experience when they withdraw from the oxycontin. Doing the methadone taper, you get the help from the methadone, but when you're done the oxy withdraw, you're also tapered off and withdrawn from the methadone as well, and you walk out clean. For my age, I'm on a high dose of oxycontin, and the methadone tapering program, for me, will take only 8 days. It's strongly recommended by doctors and drug counsellors, that oxycontin patients do this methadone tapering treatment. It was originally designed for us. It's possible to self administer your methadone and taper yourself off at home, but it's risky because you may want to take more to get rid of any withdrawal symptoms you have and that gets dangerous, because if you use up your methadone dose before you're scheduled to get more, you're actually not allowed to get more and you have to wait and go cold turkey on methadone as well, until the next chance you get to obtain the methadone. If this happens, be prepared for hell. Methadone withdrawal is the worst possible experience. It's worse than meth, heroin, crack, morphine, or anything out there. Nothing compares. So i'd strongly advise to go in, and find a treatment center to monitor you and administer the methadone for you. If we had the self control to not take more methadone than we should, then we wouldn't be addicted to drugs to begin with. Sometimes it's not our choice. Mine was because of pain that I became addicted. I can't do this alone. Not many people can. Methadone tapering is truly amazing and is saving my life. I strongly suggest you oxycontin addicts to consider it. It will be the best choice of your life. Good luck to all of you, I wish everyone the best in their recoveries.

[hooklineandsinker]

I kicked CT. It was pure hell. I felt like I had died and gone to hell.

I didn't sleep for 5 days. I puked, sh*t and crawled around on the floor to relieve the creepy crawlies. I watched the clock tick the minutes and it just moved so slow. The cravings were so overwhelming, I would hit the wall with my fist to distract myself with pain.

I hallucinated a vision where an Indian came to visit me and told me when I was done to hike down to the river. I emailed somebody about this and they almost called 911 on me.

On the fifth day, I went to the ER, because I really believed I was having a heart attack.

The doctor there basically chewed me a new one. He asked why I started using and I said I was "self medicating." He scoffed at that and said that was the first time he heard that one.

He said I probably wouldn't make it. Maybe I would but he doubted it.

Btw, my BP was 180/101. They gave me clonidine which helped for a few hours.

The friend who took me told me the doctor was just being confrontational to put some fight back in me because I was so whipped at that point.

It worked because he made me mad as hell and determined to do it.

Exercising was not an option. I walked my dogs twice a day. I felt like I was in some dream world and so weak and feeble that I literally staggered around like a drunk.

Around the 7th day I was able to eat a bowl of soup. A neighbor made it for me when she saw me walking dogs. All she could say was "Oh honey, look at you" over and over. And that was the turn around.

At one point I was googling "visions from Indians" or something. I found this Indian prayer.

My help is in the mountain
Where I take myself to heal the earthly wounds
That people give to me.
I find a rock with sun on it and a stream where water runs gently and trees,
which one by one give me company.

So must I stay for a long time until I have grown from the rock
And the stream is running through me.
And I cannot tell myself from one tall tree
Then I know that nothing touches me
Nor makes me run away
My help is in the mountain that I take with me

When it was over, I did hike down to the river. I sat on on a rock outcrop for an hour in the middle of the deep forest. I took the mountain with me.

The severity of withdrawal depends on the drug, the amount and the length of time. I'm glad some people can go to work and meetings and all. I couldn't get off the floor myself.

It can be very, very bad. People need to know that going in.

199 days clean.

[Trying_hard19]

I went cold turkey 35 days ago from Oxy ..  250mg one day, went cold turkey the next ..
I may have tried tapering, but I never thought about it ..

I had 10 years of abuse stacked up and the detox was really rough.. People talk about working on day 2-4, I could not walk.. It took 10 minutes each morning to unclench my hands and feet..

I had " nightmares" that haunted me for a week afterward's.. I was told that your brain knows your deepest fears, so I should accept the idea that your brain would use that against you . .

Its been a powerful experience.. one I will never forget.. On day 4, I was treated for high blood pressure, 161 / 112..  I was checked daily for 2 weeks .. today its 110/85..  

My councilor said that Oxy is especially rough because it has some slow release qualities.. so your technically high 24/7 when using .. No idea other than that..

I can tell you that the decision I made was to either end up in the psych ward, or die.. but I would not use again..

The last 4 days have been hell.. P.A.W.S every day and black depression .. I have an empty tank where strength is concerned.. but I am still committed .. if tomorrow gets worse, which is possible, I am checking into the hospital..  

[NotSoHappyDust]

Me and my boyfriend started shooting dope about 1 and 1/2 ago. We have talked about quiting the ENTIRE time. I had attempted to just quit one time and one time only. I just went to my moms house said I have the flu and need help. I ended up right back where i started the very NEXT day. The sad thing was, when i got my fix that next day you would think i was depressed that i didnt do it, no i had never been so relieved. At that time i was not 100% dedicaded to kickin it. It is now about 5 months later and I finally decided it was time for me. I am now 100% committed to this now, I have told my family (which is very important that you have a supportive group of ppl who have seen you how sick you are for wds), and have cut ties with all friends and the boyfriend who continue to use. I tried to quit at home with my boyfriend, the 1st two days (which day one i took 60mg, of liquid methadone, day 2 15mg of methadone) but it wasnt enough to fight the mental urge to just get high, which i did not have until i watched the boyfriend walk in to the bathroom with the "plate n spoon". I hit my low when i though a tempere tantrum like a little kid for him to just give me some. mind you i was not a bit sick, well day one he gave in and just gave it to me, i didn't even feel it, its hard to (i hear) when your on methadone. I finally just had to come to terms that i had to cut all users/sellers out of my life, if i really wanted to quit. I found the Thomas Recipe, i cut out the valuim and klonopin (i didnt feel i needed them, just used the herb Valerian) and stuck to just all the herbs and supplements. Today is day 8 and i feel better then i have in nearly two years. No one asks me if im sick, or tired anymore. I am slowly regaining my identity. Its still early for me too. Just do what you think you need to do and really stick to your guns and stay as busy as POSSIBLE, EXCERSIZE everyday. Excersize helps so much with the leg pain. Which for me was very intense in my w/d. So I started out with day 1 a good size dose of methadone, then day 2 3/4 less than day 1 (day 2 was the only day i experienced w/d symptoms!), day 3 started the "my version" Thomas Recepie, and have fallowed that and daily walks, and just forcing myself to get outta bed and start moving, but i've done it now for EIGHT days! Good luck, and never give up!

[forumryder]

i just quit ct off oxys im on day 5.  first 3 sucked but i kept busy and man did that ever help.  i went to work i worked out i walked i did it all and the day went by so fast.  just sitting in your house starting at the clock pasing around just kills you.  this site is amazing.  when imj home im on here.  but you can do it.  get out keep your mind off  it.  youll feel like **** but when you get out it all goes away.  it wont be as bad as you think.

[worriedaunt7]

I am worried sick about my nephew.  He has a dr. In Florida prescribing him 300 tabs of oxycontin(per month), methadone and valium.  My nephew says the dr. fills the prescriptions at his office.  Is this even legal?