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Has anyone ever used this? I can't kick taking viks n percs. I'm n mental health court they told me I fail again I go to rehab so gonna try this shot n see what happen I guess.. has anyone used it before? An opinions?
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I'll be praying u get the help you need to heal all the pain that is obviously eating you up inside and making you feel like u have to numb yourself in some way or another. I think you need to find a way to overcome all the bad you have been through and let it help u become a better person. It is very obvious how mad at the world you are but honey u have to let all that sh$t go or u will never be happy. And you will stay in this horrible spiral of drinking and drugs. Its not that you use because u are bored u use pills because u can no longer numb yourself with alcohol anymore, and I completely understand! But u can go on like that anymore lifes to short to live like this and you hhave a daughter u need to live a happy life for. How do you think she will turn out if u don't fix this, not saying that in a bad way but look at where your childhood go u! And I know you don't want that for her, you just need to get all that anger out girl and the rest will follow. I have faith in you I know you can do this so she can have a better childhood and chance at life like what happened to u. You can change the cycle it sounds like your family has been in for years! You can be happy you really can, I used to be a lot like u but through getting clean I fixed a lot of the sh$t that was on the inside making life so much better now I can be happy again and so could you.
Who said you're stupid??
YOU read so much into things being said that simply isn't there. You're SO angry, so defensive, that it's impossible to have a rational discussion with you. I get the hurt because what you've been through, but WE didn't hurt you. Anger is an emotion that is NEVER present by itself, it always stems from either fear, uncertainty, anxiety, etc. With all you've been through, you've got a LONG list of all of that.
I'm not going to continue on, because I feel you aren't hearing us at this point. Until you can take a step back, lose the defensive attitude, you aren't going to benefit from anything we're saying.
I'll leave you with one thought.....everything said here, by every person who took the time to post to you was to HELP you. If they didn't care, they simply would have said...."eh, the heck with her"....and walked away, and posted on another thread. Not ONE person here is standing in judgement of you. You don't like the things that were said, because somewhere, beneath all of that anger and bitterness, you know every single word is true. Like you said, you've been doing this stuff, and suffering with the same battles for over a decade, so you know the drill.
I REALLY sincerely hope you find the RIGHT kind of help....for ALL of the things that you need help with....your past, the hurt and trauma you've been through, the fear, the anger, the addiction(s)....all of it. Whatever you're doing now and have been doing is obviously not working. You deserve to be happy, and those who love you (especially your child-ren) deserve a happy, sober/clean YOU. First step to getting there is always a toughie.....but it requires opening your mind, being willing to hear and consider the advice others are trying to give you, and most importantly, willing to take ACTION......you're doing that in a sense by trying to figure out what's next, but you're leaving the MEAT of the recovery plan out. You're going along with the program, partly because you HAVE to, and partly because I'm sure you're sick of trying to numb yourself. But, I think (IMO) you're just spinning out of control...you don't know which end is up, and what to do next to REALLY get better.
Vivitrol may very well be something that could help you....just know that the shot in itself isn't recovery. You've got a lot of work to do, a lot of healing from the inside out. It may very well be a good idea for Vivitrol to be PART of your recovery plan, but it isn't going to take away your addiction. I hope you decide you're sick and tired of being so dam* mad at the world....because it's holding you back.
You don't have to post back telling me how wrong I've got you, I get that you don't want to hear it and disagree. That's fine and I respect that....but I'd rather you go hug your kids, or do something enjoyable, rather than spending time trying to tell me how wrong I am. It's my opinion...and the great thing about this kind of venue is that I'm entitled to it and you can take it or leave it.
Good luck to you. I truly mean that.
YOU read so much into things being said that simply isn't there. You're SO angry, so defensive, that it's impossible to have a rational discussion with you. I get the hurt because what you've been through, but WE didn't hurt you. Anger is an emotion that is NEVER present by itself, it always stems from either fear, uncertainty, anxiety, etc. With all you've been through, you've got a LONG list of all of that.
I'm not going to continue on, because I feel you aren't hearing us at this point. Until you can take a step back, lose the defensive attitude, you aren't going to benefit from anything we're saying.
I'll leave you with one thought.....everything said here, by every person who took the time to post to you was to HELP you. If they didn't care, they simply would have said...."eh, the heck with her"....and walked away, and posted on another thread. Not ONE person here is standing in judgement of you. You don't like the things that were said, because somewhere, beneath all of that anger and bitterness, you know every single word is true. Like you said, you've been doing this stuff, and suffering with the same battles for over a decade, so you know the drill.
I REALLY sincerely hope you find the RIGHT kind of help....for ALL of the things that you need help with....your past, the hurt and trauma you've been through, the fear, the anger, the addiction(s)....all of it. Whatever you're doing now and have been doing is obviously not working. You deserve to be happy, and those who love you (especially your child-ren) deserve a happy, sober/clean YOU. First step to getting there is always a toughie.....but it requires opening your mind, being willing to hear and consider the advice others are trying to give you, and most importantly, willing to take ACTION......you're doing that in a sense by trying to figure out what's next, but you're leaving the MEAT of the recovery plan out. You're going along with the program, partly because you HAVE to, and partly because I'm sure you're sick of trying to numb yourself. But, I think (IMO) you're just spinning out of control...you don't know which end is up, and what to do next to REALLY get better.
Vivitrol may very well be something that could help you....just know that the shot in itself isn't recovery. You've got a lot of work to do, a lot of healing from the inside out. It may very well be a good idea for Vivitrol to be PART of your recovery plan, but it isn't going to take away your addiction. I hope you decide you're sick and tired of being so dam* mad at the world....because it's holding you back.
You don't have to post back telling me how wrong I've got you, I get that you don't want to hear it and disagree. That's fine and I respect that....but I'd rather you go hug your kids, or do something enjoyable, rather than spending time trying to tell me how wrong I am. It's my opinion...and the great thing about this kind of venue is that I'm entitled to it and you can take it or leave it.
Good luck to you. I truly mean that.
I go to iop I talk to therapist ik my issues on why I choose to use n ignore my problems I have been abused my whole life which has to turned made me a very mean untrusting person. I trust no one n I don't take **** from anyone anymore so I come off as cold hearted or very mean but idc I'm tired of being walked a over. N I was forcused into this. I planned on slowing down my drinking bc it caused alot of problems between me n my hubby. But my whole family is an addict alcoholic n no I will not turn my back on them so the **** is always in my face n sometimes I get a F it attitude bc I have gotten away wit alot of crap n this program. So n Yea I get I have to work the shot hence why in m getting it I must not b getting this acrossed but once again the scram bracelet helped me quit drinking. It doesn't shock me if I drink on it but will show up on the computer n I can't just act like I didn't do it. So wit the shot if I use I will odd I'm good o on all? That m I've been dead once n been brought back ik what it's all about ( n not bc of drugs ) so now I am constantly thinking I. M dying it F ed me up n the head really good so I live in constantly panic except when I'm high or drunk. N im not allowed to take benZo n mental health court which is the only thing that stops my panic so I do other stuff? Does it make an sense now? I've laid it all out there ik my problems just bc I'm young does not mean I'm stupid I understand everything
there've been some awesome comments here that i cannot add anyything too!if i did i know i'd receive a verbal battering like i did in the Alcoholism Forum awhile back.hope you find your way and are unselfish enough not to put a baby into a life that is not stable or alcohol/drugfree!
Well girl....the name of this forum IS Addiction: Substance Abuse....so you are talking to a lot of us that have addiction issues with a VARIETY of substances. We are as varied as the substances we abused. And therefore, our responses to you will be just as varied.
Your original post/question said: (with Vivitrol being the subject of course)
"Has anyone ever used this? I can't kick taking viks n percs. I'm n mental health court they told me I fail again I go to rehab so gonna try this shot n see what happen I guess.."
And then you asked for opinions. (and you got plenty, eh?)
You said "I can't kick taking viks n percs"
Most of us relate to that statement.....kicking, I mean.
You also told us you were in mental health court due to your alcoholism and the consequences your drinking has created....but you couldn't handle being sober so you've been taking narcotic pain meds for the past 3 weeks and you "can't" kick them....if you don't, mental health court has told you that you will be mandated to inpatient rehab, right?
From what I have gleaned from your comments, you have your mind set against going to rehab so you are looking for an "easier, softer way" to get off the narcotics now after just 3 weeks...thus, your Vivitrol idea.
Obviously, taking narcotic meds will minimize the discomfort of not drinking alcohol.....but it has prevented you from really getting to the core issues within your heart that cause you to want to "mask your emotions".
What's in our hearts...is what comes out of our mouths...and you have a lot of unresolved emotions in that young heart of yours.
Many of us alcoholic/addicts initially try to turn to a "quick fix" solution to get us off our drug(s) of choice. We almost always find that until we get super honest with ourselves and get a DAILY recovery program of some kind in place....the many "drugs we take to get off drugs" are temporary band aides for the true source of our problems/pain.
The VERY first comment above (after the best answer comment) is from jifmoc.....she gave you an EXCELLENT article to read about Vivitrol. It has LOTS of information in it. The pros, the cons, the success and failure rates, opinions of many of those who work with alcoholic/addicts. Did you even take the time to read it?
The very best thing you could do to get your original question answered is to read the article you were given as a reference by jifmoc. I read it just now and once sentence stood out above them all:
"But it pays to be mindful that no drug will work unless you also work, every day, at your recovery."
So, whether you drink, take vics or percs, or vivitrol....what are you actively doing on a daily basis for your own personal recovery?
Your original post/question said: (with Vivitrol being the subject of course)
"Has anyone ever used this? I can't kick taking viks n percs. I'm n mental health court they told me I fail again I go to rehab so gonna try this shot n see what happen I guess.."
And then you asked for opinions. (and you got plenty, eh?)
You said "I can't kick taking viks n percs"
Most of us relate to that statement.....kicking, I mean.
You also told us you were in mental health court due to your alcoholism and the consequences your drinking has created....but you couldn't handle being sober so you've been taking narcotic pain meds for the past 3 weeks and you "can't" kick them....if you don't, mental health court has told you that you will be mandated to inpatient rehab, right?
From what I have gleaned from your comments, you have your mind set against going to rehab so you are looking for an "easier, softer way" to get off the narcotics now after just 3 weeks...thus, your Vivitrol idea.
Obviously, taking narcotic meds will minimize the discomfort of not drinking alcohol.....but it has prevented you from really getting to the core issues within your heart that cause you to want to "mask your emotions".
What's in our hearts...is what comes out of our mouths...and you have a lot of unresolved emotions in that young heart of yours.
Many of us alcoholic/addicts initially try to turn to a "quick fix" solution to get us off our drug(s) of choice. We almost always find that until we get super honest with ourselves and get a DAILY recovery program of some kind in place....the many "drugs we take to get off drugs" are temporary band aides for the true source of our problems/pain.
The VERY first comment above (after the best answer comment) is from jifmoc.....she gave you an EXCELLENT article to read about Vivitrol. It has LOTS of information in it. The pros, the cons, the success and failure rates, opinions of many of those who work with alcoholic/addicts. Did you even take the time to read it?
The very best thing you could do to get your original question answered is to read the article you were given as a reference by jifmoc. I read it just now and once sentence stood out above them all:
"But it pays to be mindful that no drug will work unless you also work, every day, at your recovery."
So, whether you drink, take vics or percs, or vivitrol....what are you actively doing on a daily basis for your own personal recovery?
Sweetheart, you sound like a boiling hot mess. In fact you very much do sound like you're drinking right now. Why are you sooooo angry? You keep saying you're an alcoholic,...is this really different from taking pills ....no honey...it's really not. Maybe you should go have a rest and a shower and come back and reread everything. Nobody is attacking you. You need a hug.
Yes ma'am. That is me to a T. Look ik I come off as an ******* but that just me. N I'm fine wit it. Calling me a wine o doesn't bother or boozer ur only saying facts so can't get mad about the truth. Just as they shouldn't that is what they once was a junkie. So only saying facts ain't my problem if anyone gets mad I could care less. Yes I am very defense hearing **** that has nothing to do wit what I asked. N if u think I'm being mean now lmfao u should know that this is just the tip of the iceberg. Seriously. I have read it all Yea y'all think im a **** who needs rehab how awesome. Idc my gparents are the same like u never used but have been around it that fine but just bc u been around it u still have no idea what it actually is til u have experience it. So. I'll b back on a month n prove u all wrong that this will work n that will b that. I've been sober a couple days now n under alot of stress so BOOM I can be sober if I choose to. Lol not high writing this sobbbeerr af n doing just fine. So could care less about this I'm one that loves to fight but I do have a life daughter a husband who actually understand me so ima go b wit them instead of caring on this pointless conversation
"So wish u quit coming at me like this bc "
SERIOUSLY......seriously...take a DEEP breath, and go back and CAREFULLY read this thread. NOT ONE person came at you....you instantly became defensive at TWO benign, informative posts...people trying to express their opinion. And it rapidly went downhill from there.
You've posted some really hurtful things....it's only normal to expect that some people will react, you know?
Sorry, dear, but you started this ball rolling, NO ONE else. You could have chosen to have a civil conversation. NO one is judging you, only giving you their opinions, TRYING TO HELP YOU. You cannot see that because you take everything so personally and get defensive instantly.
SERIOUSLY......seriously...take a DEEP breath, and go back and CAREFULLY read this thread. NOT ONE person came at you....you instantly became defensive at TWO benign, informative posts...people trying to express their opinion. And it rapidly went downhill from there.
You've posted some really hurtful things....it's only normal to expect that some people will react, you know?
Sorry, dear, but you started this ball rolling, NO ONE else. You could have chosen to have a civil conversation. NO one is judging you, only giving you their opinions, TRYING TO HELP YOU. You cannot see that because you take everything so personally and get defensive instantly.
WOW.
I don't even know if you realize how hurtful the stuff you're saying is. Incredible.
I tried to give you my honest input, you're clearly not ready to hear it, which is fine....but sadly, the ONLY person who will end up suffering for your perception of what YOU are versus what the people on this forum are is YOU. You've been an alcoholic for a very very long time, and you're still so young. MANY addicts will flip flop from one substance to the next, just like you did. That's just a fact, spoken from you yourself.
It's a blessing that you only used pills for three weeks but PLEASE don't kid yourself that your addiction isn't "as bad".....because addiction is always progressive. I commend your clean time from alcohol, but if you don't try to SEE what others are seeing, you're really putting yourself at risk....for all kinds of things.
And, btw, I'm not an addict, but someone who has dealt with addiction in MANY different ways, from loved ones, to briefly working in a sub clinic. So, in that respect, I would hope you'd at least understand that my advice isn't coming from a place of me comparing myself to you.....like you feel others are doing. I'm sure that doesn't mean anything to you...but who knows, maybe it will.
What better people to help you try to take this more seriously than people who once uttered the same exact words you have?
Hopefully you can take this post as it's intended, to be honest and to hopefully try to get you to think a little...not get defensive because it isn't the easiest thing to hear. You've been posting on MH for quite a while, and have garnered loads of support from people in this forum, PLEASE at least have a little bit of respect and not insult them, or put them down. Calling people here "junkies" is the epitome of hurtful. That would be like us calling you a "boozer"...a "wine-o", those kinds of things. Name calling is just unnecessary and inflammatory.
Best to you.
I don't even know if you realize how hurtful the stuff you're saying is. Incredible.
I tried to give you my honest input, you're clearly not ready to hear it, which is fine....but sadly, the ONLY person who will end up suffering for your perception of what YOU are versus what the people on this forum are is YOU. You've been an alcoholic for a very very long time, and you're still so young. MANY addicts will flip flop from one substance to the next, just like you did. That's just a fact, spoken from you yourself.
It's a blessing that you only used pills for three weeks but PLEASE don't kid yourself that your addiction isn't "as bad".....because addiction is always progressive. I commend your clean time from alcohol, but if you don't try to SEE what others are seeing, you're really putting yourself at risk....for all kinds of things.
And, btw, I'm not an addict, but someone who has dealt with addiction in MANY different ways, from loved ones, to briefly working in a sub clinic. So, in that respect, I would hope you'd at least understand that my advice isn't coming from a place of me comparing myself to you.....like you feel others are doing. I'm sure that doesn't mean anything to you...but who knows, maybe it will.
What better people to help you try to take this more seriously than people who once uttered the same exact words you have?
Hopefully you can take this post as it's intended, to be honest and to hopefully try to get you to think a little...not get defensive because it isn't the easiest thing to hear. You've been posting on MH for quite a while, and have garnered loads of support from people in this forum, PLEASE at least have a little bit of respect and not insult them, or put them down. Calling people here "junkies" is the epitome of hurtful. That would be like us calling you a "boozer"...a "wine-o", those kinds of things. Name calling is just unnecessary and inflammatory.
Best to you.
How'd u know my name haha anyways. For the last time ik alcohol is a drugs obviously! N Yea that is what I think. Lol I know plenty of heroin addicts n ik plenty of ppl that have died died from it. I'm n mental health court bc I like to fist fight when I drink hence havnt drank n 74 days. This shot will make me stop ik me best just by having a stupid scram bracelet I quit drinking just bc ik what will happen if I do. So what makes u think the shot won't do the same?? Mean just bc it wouldn't work for u does not mean me I'm not going thru dt I'm a very stubborn person if u can't tell sooo. If I don't wanna do something I won't. N ta da knowing what will happen if I use will keep me from doing it y'all act like I'm so bad off. It's 3 weeks compared to 14 yrs of drinking so I just proved right there if I wanna quit I can. I've been drinking for more than half of my life sorry but I'm not use to being sober n **** takes time just doesn't happen over night y'all should know this! So wish u quit coming at me like this bc there are ppl way worse than I am that need talking to I have a therapist a judge my p.o n **** test lady to ask but they also know me I like to try to find outside answer's of what the shot was alike I am scared to take the damn thing bc I'm always the person that bad reactions to crap never fails so why I wanted to know if anyone had an reactions is why I put this up to begin wit and it gotta taken a total different way than it was suppose to it's annoying. Seriously bc I will b defense it is who I am obviously
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Well this thread has gotten to be rather lively!!
We wish you well gypsy~
We wish you well gypsy~
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To be quite honest, the only person who put rude comments was u. Im quite surprised at how long "nursegirl" catered to u. You are obviously not ready to live a clean and sober life....and thats ok, you do what u need to do....but, to me, when i hear people claiming they use b/c their bored...its ********. What u want to hear us that u wont OD on the Vitrol shot and your not going to hear that on this site. Your obviously in some court mandated rehab program and you used while in this program. The court is giving you this option which i think is pointless. You are considering using (and that means any drug or alcohol) knowing theres a good chance u could OD??? Does that make sense to u?
This website gives support and advice to people that are sick and tired of being sick and tired! When your ready to stop this madness....we will be here ready and willing to help. You need to remember, this is a site full of addicts...we can read between the lines. Good luck to u in whatever decision u make.
This website gives support and advice to people that are sick and tired of being sick and tired! When your ready to stop this madness....we will be here ready and willing to help. You need to remember, this is a site full of addicts...we can read between the lines. Good luck to u in whatever decision u make.
Here's some information for you:
http://www.vivitrol.com/HCP/VivitrolResources/PatientCounselingChecklist
I would definitely recommend being clean for longer than 5 days. The last thing you want to experience is precipitated w/ds. It's good that you're going to be monitored initially.
Also, like I said above, be sure the doc knows you have been TTC. It's not completely contraindicated in pregnant women, but there are definitely some considerations that need to be reviewed with you and the doc.
http://www.vivitrol.com/HCP/VivitrolResources/PatientCounselingChecklist
I would definitely recommend being clean for longer than 5 days. The last thing you want to experience is precipitated w/ds. It's good that you're going to be monitored initially.
Also, like I said above, be sure the doc knows you have been TTC. It's not completely contraindicated in pregnant women, but there are definitely some considerations that need to be reviewed with you and the doc.
I havnt been drinking.. so... n it's just been n on n off thing for 3 weeks my last one ( perk ) was Monday. My judge Told me it can b 5 days clean then u can get the shot I'm going on a crisis unit to make sure I'll have no reactions to it. Just started using the pills bc I was bored n don't like being sober why I'm getting shot n back on my meds even my drug test lady agrees I just need a lil boost to help me quit trust me this addiction is nothing by far I just need a lil help
You had posted in the Alcoholism forum that you were sober/clean for 70 days!How long has the Vicoden/Perc thing been going on?One also cannot take Vivitrol when drinking..or any other drugs.....one has to be COMPLETELY abstinent for 14 days before the Vivitrol!
One last comment, I see you're presently trying to get pregnant, or think you may be. I DO believe Vivitrol isn't recommended for women trying to conceive, or women who are pregnant.
Well, good luck to you dear. I wish you nothing but the best, and hope you continue to be successful in recovery.
My bad for posting lol I'm an alcoholic OK I've never od n never plan on it so Yea knowing that will indeed keep me from using only reason I was doing the pills to begin wit is I can't drink. Sooo... y'all act like I've been doing this for yrs or I've have odd which never happen I can't just use n die lol sorry but my addiction Isn't as bad as y'all was. Was just more something to do. Trust me things would b different if I drank I've never had alcohol poison none of that crap why would I start now I am strong enuff to b this. I've been drinking 14 yrs n I'm only 23. N today make I think 73 days clean so Ya if I can do that I can do this. Just need it for a month bc it ( the shot ) also stops the cravings n that is the part I can't get on my own so this will give me the chance to get sober talk to my iop therapist n b done wit this so. Ppl on the alcoholic form are awesome but evertime I come here I always ask myself why. Bc I end up just getting mad so Ya whatever as u said it works for some n I'll b in that % bc ik me best I just need a lil help not rehab to b away from my family bc when I'm away from them I make very bad decisions n end up getting charges so for ME this is my best option
Oh geez. Sorry, but you're being very silly. If you're going to leave here and give up all of the wonderful support and help you have been getting here based on a few comments you didn't care for, that's up to you. Seems very self defeating though.
When you post on a forum like this, you cannot dictate what people are going to advise you. Everyone here only wants to see you succeed. Sometimes the truth is tough to hear.
Good luck to you....take care.
When you post on a forum like this, you cannot dictate what people are going to advise you. Everyone here only wants to see you succeed. Sometimes the truth is tough to hear.
Good luck to you....take care.
No one is making rude comments...we're being honest with you.
You're going to do what you're going to do. I think you're missing the most vital part of getting and staying clean...the follow through with aftercare. Without that, it's not going to matter what you're taking, chances of relapse will be very high, especially with your history of struggling to stay clean to the extent you have.
In a perfect world, the threat of a fatal OD would be a great deterrent for addicts, but you know as well as I do, that doesn't work. If it did, people wouldn't be dying every day from overdoses.
Good luck, whatever you decide. Nothing is going to "work" unless YOU work it...remember that.
You're going to do what you're going to do. I think you're missing the most vital part of getting and staying clean...the follow through with aftercare. Without that, it's not going to matter what you're taking, chances of relapse will be very high, especially with your history of struggling to stay clean to the extent you have.
In a perfect world, the threat of a fatal OD would be a great deterrent for addicts, but you know as well as I do, that doesn't work. If it did, people wouldn't be dying every day from overdoses.
Good luck, whatever you decide. Nothing is going to "work" unless YOU work it...remember that.
I'm done posting on this site never asked for ppl thought I needed all I aak was for experience. So Ya I'm done you guys don't really help me so bye
Lol already been to rehab that is why. If u use on this shot u can od n die.. Ya so think it would keep me clean.. knowing what will happen if I do.. so. Ya.. just want ppl experience on the shot not rude comments
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