Oxycontin

[CHAD FROM PHILLY!!!]

Hello everybody...I just wanted to put a quick question out there. As many of you already know I quit using Oxycontin Friday March 9th. Life has become much different during these past few weeks. I find myself sad and depressed one minute and on top of the world the next. I have been going to NA meetings on and off. I really havent had a good experience with the program. I call my sponcer and he doesn't return my calls. That hurts because I thought that NA was there to provide unconditional support. I get temted to use on a daily basis. The good thing is that I have a choice. I am not dope sick anymore and for that I am forever greatful! My question is this.........Many of us have been using for a very long time. We have to look at life in a whole new way. They say take one day at a time. I understand that but how do keep from falling back to our regular ways? You see when we stop using our minds tell us that we need to get our lives back on track. Get a job, do things around the house, reconnect with friends and family ect., ect. The point is thatI find myself really pissed off at the fact that I have wasted so many years just spinning my wheels. I have no direction and would really like some guidance. Any words of encouragement would greatly be appreciated. I know there are many of people out there just like me. Quiting using was the easy part....Now is when I need help. I just need a glimmer of hope! I belive that it takes tremondous support to change a persons life. My whole exsistance has been centered around drug use. How do you change a person like that? I look at every situation like how much better it would be to be high. I hope this make sence to some of you. I am really in need of help right now. I look forward to chatting with you guys. Maybe we could start up some more direct support system for ourselves. This board has helped many, many people. I think it is good to post our feelings because I think that alot of people can relate. My prayers go out to each and every one of you! Thank you in advance for your continued support! Chad

[Angelica]

I didn't want to reply in the beginning threads.  I know you are going through a rough time.  Read some of your posts to me, in the early May "Withdrawal" thread.  You seemed to be in a better place there.  When I have trouble w/ certain issues......I go back and read some of my posts, and this reinforces.  I wish there was something I could say to help.  I can relate to how tough it is raising children (I have a 4yr. & 12 yr.old). You are the head of the household, and this makes it harder on you.  One thing that really stuck out in your earlier posts: your wife is finishing classes.  I can recall when my 4yr old was an infant, and he was throwing up constantly w/ acid reflux, and never slept for more than 1.5 hrs at a time.  My husband was studying for his license, we were building a home, and man, I thought I was gonna die.  I don't know how I made it through.....but anyway, I started having severe anxiety attacks, and called this ins. nurse.....thinking(duh) I was having a heart attack.  She sent me to a shrink....and he said it was post traumatic stress, from my mva.  This sometimes happens.....years later, after tragedy, and rough times come up, and this will surface. What's the point to all this, well.....when rough times come up, those old feeling will come back.  You have to develope new habits to deal w/ stress.  NEW HABITS!!!!LOL  Whats the point to all of this, I don't know.  Don't think your alone.  We are here for you.  
Love,
Angelica

[pelle1985]

I wish you luck, but at the same time question why you are "not in a position" to go to a rehab but your son is. . .the only times I said to myself I wasn't in a position to go to a rehab (or something similar) were the times I really didn't want to quit.  Cutting down also never worked for me, nor have I ever known anyone whom it has worked for.  Addicts simply do not have the discipline to do this -- it is along the lines of our desire to "use successfully".  Sometimes just going through the withdrawal is necessary as a motivator to not use again.  I went through several rehabs, including one with the anti-withdrawal drugs, and never stayed clean until this last time, when I truly desired to be free.  I don't mean to be negative -- I wish you well, but please examine your motives thoroughly.  Your son will need your example to help him stay clean as well.

Peace,
Pelle

[Stargazing]

My son and I are both on oxys and he is going into a rehab in a few days and I am going to try to kick it at home by myself. I am so scared, yet I know that if I can just make it through the fist 3-4 days then I can do it. I still have a few oxys that I am going to use to wean myself off with and then use Lortab 10's and valiums on a scheduled basis. I have several friends who have gone through rehabs and they were given 2 Darvacet ever 4-6 hours the first 2 days then down to 1 Darvacet every 4-6 hours along with a nerve and muscle pills. I am going to use these guide lines to try to do it myself as I am not in a position to be able to go into a rehab. If any one has tryed doing this let me know and any pointers will help. I also plan on getting some of the L-Tyrosine and B6 pills to take and I already take viamin B-12 shots. Thanks for any help and wish my son and I good luck.

[susanlea]

Thank you Pelle, as usual your wisdom and compassion have touched me so.....sleep well my friend.....Love Susanlea

[Wife]

I have just learned that my husband is addicted to Darvon and Oxy. I have found large amounts of both at our home. He left myself and our two year old and entered a re-hab program somewhere but I am unsure where (his parents will not tell me). I am curious to those who have experience with these drugs- how much do they cost- I found 40mg oxy and standard capsul Darvon. He has caused us so much debt and taken every bit of cash from out bank account over the last six months. he took (a friend told me) 10-15 Darvons at a time orally and I believe he was snorting since I found a straw.

He is getting both the drugs in Mexico since we only live an hour away. How much do these Oxy's cost vs. Darvon. He has not been getting them through traditional US Doctors RX. In your opinion- I believe it started with Darvon and increased to Oxy- this has been going on for about 8 months and the Oxy probably within the last 4 months. He has never abused drugs or alchohol in the past but has become depressed due to a medical problem (cyst on his pituatiry gland causing hormonal abnormalities) and lack of energy - overall depression. He has been hiding his drug use under the medical excuse since hormone problems have overlapping symptoms.

Do you think Oxy can be beat? I am so sad that I have lost my husband to such evil and have a hard time relating to drug addition not being an addict myself.

Another question- What are the symptoms of how you feel/act using Darvon, also using Oxy. His actions were confusing since they seemed as if he was on coke- but he also had opiates signs
(small pupils, sweating, etc.) Please be candid I am trying to figure an accurate start date of his drug use so I can look back on what may have triggered the use in an effort to eventually put the puzzle back together.

Cyndie mother of Gavin 2 years old.

[pelle1985]

I'm sorry to hear how your life is going right now.  As I said, even when it seems hardest (especially then), your only responsibility is to heal yourself.  Before you do this, you will be of lesser value to everyone, especially your kids, who will need you now more than ever.

Yes, methadone is not only addicting, it is itself a narcotic.  It was originally developed under Hitler's Third Reich as a cheaper alternative to morphine which was to be given to German soldiers injured in battle.  Your ex doesn't necessarily have to be back on the oxys to be acting zombielike (although he may well be) since the stupor you speak of is also one of the primary side effects of methadone.  This is one of the reasons I do not see it as any kind of positive alternative as far as addiction is concerned.

Peace,
Pelle