Subutex W/D during pregnancy/seroquel

[callingkarma]

Hey all. I've been on Subutex for 3 years - due to a relapse. Worst mistake of my life. I've kicked heroin many times, but can't kick the sub. Not to mention my "conspiracy theory" on Subutex, but I won't give you that talk now - and I've seen many of you think the same. I found out I was pregnant while in my third year of Sub treatment - so it's not like I switched. My main goal for getting off Subutex is selfish - bash me as you like - I want pain relief during and AFTER giving birth. The option I was given was quite scary - an epidural for THREE DAYS!! I'm a wuss when it comes to pain, but I don't want an epidural for 3 days!! After I had my daughter 3 yrs ago I was given percs - 10 days worth - and was fine. An Epidural means I can't move!! The docs also mentioned they "could" give me a complete opiate agonist, in place of the epidural - gee, let's see which one they actually give me. . . Epidural anyone?? I can't imagine they want to give an opiate addict a morphine drip - even after a c-section! No, we've become a secondary human-life w/in hospital settings. The second you mention you take Sub or seem a little too eager to get that vicodin prescription, you're screwed! Nothing but unbearable pain for you, my little addict. . .

Geez - I've gone off on a rant! Sorry. Anyhow - I'm 29/30 weeks pregnant and jumping off tonight - I only take 2mg per day, and at the highest, maybe 4mg. I figure if I jump off now my child has a great chance of surviving outside the womb - you kno, for those that are gonna tell me I'm gonna miscarry - except after 27 weeks it's no longer called a miscarry, but a premature or stillbirth (Yes, I know those are 2 different things). I'm just trying to weed out all the self-taught med students - I know most of us know more than the nurses who assist the doctors - but that's not what I'm here for. . .

What I am here for is to know if someone has gone through a similar experience, what happened, how long were you sick, and how long did it take for you to feel 100%? I'm jumping off at a smaller dose than most do - so how much lower can I go w/o going insane? I don't really want to find out.

I'm also prescribed seroquel 50mg to sleep, but not sure how this will affect my baby - but I am willing to take it when the going gets rough. Has anyone used seroquel during an opiate w/d?

[avisg]

I am 100 % sane and many of the organs continue mature all of the way until very close to birth .The lungs of course are one of them .If you want what is best for your baby then yes an inpatient program would be what was best but where ever you go it wont matter if you are not 100 %  honest with the doctor  about  all of the meds you have been on .This is no longer about you its about a baby that can not advocate for it self .I truly hope you find a program and everything turns out well for the sake of the baby

[Holliee]

what state do you live in and have you tried calling an asking mybe your obgyn can help you find a place come off subutex

[dominosarah]

You are the one carrying this baby and taking meds your doctor knows nothing about and you feel just becuz they are prescribed it is okay and then you ask us if we are insane.......Noone is insane here, we are just very concerned about this little baby you are carrying and we hope to God this little baby will be okay.  I hope you find a place that will take you.....sara

[callingkarma]

I am aware of your concern, and trust me, I too am concerned - but I did my research before using the vicodin - and ALL the other meds are actually from my OB. Except the herbals - of course - but those have been around for thousands of years and I don't plan on taking more than one per day - if that. Vicodin is a Category C - same as Subutex and Methadone - so pregnant women can take it if the benefit outweighs the risk. As far as the organs not being done by 36 weeks is false. My daughter was only 34 weeks when she was born, and perfectly fine - the only organ that COULD be underdeveloped is the Lungs - which is why they always test before they deliver twins, which is always much sooner or around 36 weeks. All other major organs were ACTUALLY formed in the first 3 months. Is it still bad? Yes, of course. Do I care, Yes. No I will not be telling my OB that I switched myself to vicodin - are you insane? But vicodin is a much milder pain reliever than subutex - if you read the literature on it. And only has a half life 3.8 hrs - not 37 like subutex. WHich is why regular naracotics are much easier and faster to get off of.

However, I no longer think I can do this myself and have decided to go into inpatient to get off the vicodins and the remainder of sub in my system - unfortunately, there is hardly a place that will take a pregnant woman - but since I am sooo far along, I"m praying they will.

[dominosarah]

I just read thru this whole thread.  I hope to god your ob knows what you are doing here.  I also hope the hospital will be prepared when this baby is born.  That is alot of meds to be put into your system and then going thru all the wd that you have.  I understand that addiction is a beast and you are struggling but you have a baby that also needs to be taken care of here........sara

[avisg]

Some of the organs have not completely formed until 36 weeks are you past that point you are taking several different meds that can have negative effects on your baby .Does or OBGYN know all of the drugs you are taking you have stopped the sub now back to the narco ???  You dont think there could be any ill effects on your baby ? serqual is a very potent anti psychotic .then the sub now narco are you clear all of this with you doctor ?