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10 days off suboxone ughh
I just want to sleep right! Ive been on suboxone for 6 yrs and ive finally just quit cold turkey and its been ruff as ever but my pins and needles are gone now im just cold and clammy and never really comfortable yet! But I have to continue and at night im taking melatonin to help me sleep at least 3 hrs but what I wouldnt do for a real nights rest! I have night terrors and panic but for the most part I can sit still during the day and eat. Its not easy im not gonna lie but im trying to find a recovery center I can go into for at least 30 days! I need to keep positive about this and thank god I have a mother who cares because I almost slipped yesterday I even had her drive me to walgreens but she spied on me and saw me pick up a script of 8 suboxone my doc called in so ya cravings are still hard to deal with! But how long till I sleep right? Nobody should ever go on this antagonist because it is harder to get off of!
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OMG....I hear ya!!! Loud and clear. I was on subs for 6 yrs as well...24 mg/day. Did u taper or just quit cold turkey? I went from 24mg to 0 in one week and I was ******* miserable! The w/d off these things us bad especially c/t...but it can be done. I had my husband to help so yes, u r very lucky to have your mom! No appetite I'm sure...take lots of epsom salt bathed as I found they did help. All u can really do.is hold tight and ride it out. Depending on how u tapered its going to be approx 3 weeks when the physical part stops and I strongly suggest you make a plan for aftercare. N/A or something else. Do u have music player u can plug into your ears.. do it! Happy, upbeat music helped. Loud! Time, time, time! The subs are one of the hardest to come off so don't expect quick, b/c to expect that will make u "go to pharmacy and pick up refill" .....LOL....don't start over, your well on your way! Please try and ride it out! Again, I'm NOT taking from you how bad it *****...I know this, but I am in day 71 clean from subs, u can do this!
After 6 years it will take time to catch up, but you will. Don't forget the power of the hot bath will relax you.
Based on the mistakes I've made when going thru my three WD session; avoid sleep meds. Do your best to not fight it and go as natural as you can. I've alway had sleep problems so I went through hell during WDs. An Anesthesiologist I know asked me if I ever tried to go 24 hours without sleep. He told me that our system will eventually catch up naturally if we don't stand in the way by drugging it. This site has a good insomnia forum that you can research. I've been there!
Based on the mistakes I've made when going thru my three WD session; avoid sleep meds. Do your best to not fight it and go as natural as you can. I've alway had sleep problems so I went through hell during WDs. An Anesthesiologist I know asked me if I ever tried to go 24 hours without sleep. He told me that our system will eventually catch up naturally if we don't stand in the way by drugging it. This site has a good insomnia forum that you can research. I've been there!
Thank you for sharing with me and giving me tips to help me! I quit cold turkey off of 2x a day 8mg suboxones! Im glad that you have made it 71days clean! That is totally amazing for me to hear! I'm praying and today I'm looking up some n/a meetings and I plan on trying to attend one this evening now that I can pretty much sit still! I've already called quite a few recovery centers around here but they all want a total of 20,000.00 bucks and half up front! Sure that's almost duable! Lol but the things that stress me out are knowing I have to not only take care of me I have a son and daughter I have to maintain as well for the weekend so a little overwhelmed! Did you sneeze a lot too? But no its not easy but I do have another question does b12 help or make it worse? I just want some enegy! But I'm ready to continue this one second at a time as much as possible! Wish me luck!;-)
Hey there...With regards to sleep...I was on a lot of opiates every day for many years..I'm over 100 days clean, and sleep is still a problem for me. I know it's the pits, but it will get better. I am waiting for the day to get a real good night's sleep. So proud of all your hard earned clean time!! Keep knocking down those days!! You can do it...
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Hey...I sneezed more in the first month than I have in my entire life! Lol..I actually found it funny...but I had to find something to laugh at. Can your mom help with the kids b/c I really think that's going to put a lot of pressure on u that u don't need right no.
I didn't sleep right for the first month, so u really need to take it easy! If your going to do this at home, which I did, think of it as if u were in a detox center...you need rest, fluids, and time! Talk to your mother about the subs half life....this detox is not a quick one. I had to talk to myself in the mirror and tell myself, "I am stronger than this" literally! I went to my first meeting about 15 days in b/c it took me that long to be able to get out of house. But, I heard exactly what I needed to hear that first night to know that's exactly where I needed to be! It blew my mind! Just remember, when those "waves" come, post! Sit down and breathe. Keep in your mind its the drugs leaving your body, and it will pass! It is physical, but its a mind **** as well...just know, its not permanant and it will pass!!! Stay on the forum, it will help. Don't push the energy thing, cause that part is going to take awhile and stay away from caffeinne since I know your looking for energy. The world will
I didn't sleep right for the first month, so u really need to take it easy! If your going to do this at home, which I did, think of it as if u were in a detox center...you need rest, fluids, and time! Talk to your mother about the subs half life....this detox is not a quick one. I had to talk to myself in the mirror and tell myself, "I am stronger than this" literally! I went to my first meeting about 15 days in b/c it took me that long to be able to get out of house. But, I heard exactly what I needed to hear that first night to know that's exactly where I needed to be! It blew my mind! Just remember, when those "waves" come, post! Sit down and breathe. Keep in your mind its the drugs leaving your body, and it will pass! It is physical, but its a mind **** as well...just know, its not permanant and it will pass!!! Stay on the forum, it will help. Don't push the energy thing, cause that part is going to take awhile and stay away from caffeinne since I know your looking for energy. The world will
Thanks all of you! I was in a 13 year marriage and I married this man I believed he was someine else but after that first year passed I knew I screwed up! I let my guard down and joined him in his opiate addiction! I'm not blaming him but I do feel I wouldn't of done this by myself either! At first I was snorting oxy cottons for about a year or so and then I started to let my husband shoot me up with them for about 6 months and by then my addiction was so bad I grew inpatient waiting for him to go first so then I started to figure out how to myself! I started opiates in december of 2002 and I was 22 yrs old and never heard of withdrawl, but now here I sit at 34 yrs old wondering what happened to my life? So anyways about 2007 I had found out about suboxone and I also think it was because they did away or were trying to figure out how to create oxy cotton so that us addicts couldn't abuse it any longer like we liked to! So from 2007 to until 10 days ago I have been hooked on suboxone and first and for a long time I thought they were the miracle drug since we didn't have to spend most our day scrambling for cash in anyway to get our next fix to be able to function! I remeber when I knew I didn't like pills anymore cus it wasn't about the high for me it was being able to function through the day! What a nightmare! I don't wish this on my worst enemy if I had one! I've had my ex od on oxys and speed and I've had quite a few other friends die and I'm just done! I might only be 10 days clean but I sat on my couch and watched 3 hularious movies and you know what I haven't laughed as hard as I did in a very long time! I actually realized it and it made me happy! I am an addict and I have a problem but that doesn't make me a bad person! I am a listener and I'm. Very quizative and friendly and giving and I know that speaking to god everyday has helped and when I ask for the pain to go away he sometimes stops my pain! I have started saying this verse from the bible which is 1chronicles 4:10- Jabez cried to the god of isreal He said I wish you would bless me I wish you would give me more territory Let your powerful hand keep me from harm Then I will not have any pain
I know all 2 well about oxycotin getting turned into the new formula, when they got switched we could still find them in our area for a month or 2 after consistantly and then if you found them after the 2 months they were super expensive and i would call them dinosoar bones beause they were so rare....but instead of switching to subs i grad. to heroin and lived that life up until 50 days ago tommorrow i dont blame the person that shot me up the first time either but it only took 1 time of showin me how to do it and i was operating on my own arm soon thereafter......1 thing i wont and didnt do is shoot someone up for the first time and if n e thing if i would see someone new in the circle (birds of a feather flock together) i would try and tell them that they would be feeling like complete hell in the near future and opiates is NOT the drug u wana mess with ( but ppl gotta fig things out on there own usually Live and learn right)
Today is my 6th day not dosing on Suboxone.
I've been doing a lot of sneezing too, but generally feel fine. I tapered myself down from 8mg a day over a 3 month period and had an easy time of it.
I did start to flip-flop in bed last night for the first time since I started tapering or jumped. I got up for a few minutes and started yawning, so I went back to bed and slept 6 hours, which is a full nights sleep for me.
I've been doing a lot of sneezing too, but generally feel fine. I tapered myself down from 8mg a day over a 3 month period and had an easy time of it.
I did start to flip-flop in bed last night for the first time since I started tapering or jumped. I got up for a few minutes and started yawning, so I went back to bed and slept 6 hours, which is a full nights sleep for me.
And god gave him what he asked for! Say this verse 3x a day for 7 days! It helped me sleep for a little somenights like god took my pins and needles feeling away! My step dad was also an alcoholic and I have gone to meetings with him because he knew at that time I was an addict to well in 2006 after being 7 yrs sober he passed at the age of 47 but the point is he inspired me because he wrote his life story and he went from state to state to speak his story at A/A and when we went to Akron University for the 85th or something like that anniversary of where A/A began I sat behind this man that had a saying on his shirt that felt to me like god made him sit there for me to read it! Or higher power! I believe in both! But it was so surreal and I also at age 31 survived a heart attack after not breathing for 3 minutes and the only time I remember waking up for a few seconds was when the pasture was saying to me my last rights because noone thought I was going to make it! Well I remember feeling so at piece when I saw that and I passed back out! But 3 days later I awoke out of a coma to find out I was put on that milk stuff micheal jackson died from and morphine andd god knows what else! So I say I was on suboxone so they immediatley start me back on subs and I was very weak from that seasaw ride and recovering from a heart attack! I'm just ready to keep fighting to stay clean because I realize while on suboxone and other opiates I was numb and I rarely laughed anymore! I'm already laughing again because I keep having bursts of exitement or sillyness from exhaustion either or but I'm laughing! My 9th day clean laughing! Its amazing to feel anything so I'm glad I've made it this far! Think positive right! Well now everyone knows most of my story!
One second at a time or one minute or one day which ever you can handle! Just a thought! Thanks everyone I hope u enjoyed my story! I hope I continue this story with 2014 March 6th first day clean and so on clean!
10 days!!! You did it girl yeah!!!! So happy for you. You triedso hard and did it.
Energy - you can try l-tyrosine. It teally helps some. Start with 500mg and see how it is. Melatonin for sleep. Nice hot baths with epson salt and lots of bubbles. Put in some music you love and lay back and relax.
Other than that, time. Another week snd you will feel better more and more.
I am so happy for you. Keep moving forward. The rest is now your past.
Energy - you can try l-tyrosine. It teally helps some. Start with 500mg and see how it is. Melatonin for sleep. Nice hot baths with epson salt and lots of bubbles. Put in some music you love and lay back and relax.
Other than that, time. Another week snd you will feel better more and more.
I am so happy for you. Keep moving forward. The rest is now your past.
You can try calling the lical health department or your hospitals' referral line and ask if there are any good rehabs for people with insurance. They are around. Then you can go for 2 - 4 weeks and then they into a 1/2 way house (one with a sluding scale fee) to gelp teansition into life again. What area are you in ?
Hey Kelly, congratulations on day 10.
I was very lucky detoxing subs, i slept every night and had minimal withdrawals. Some people are lucky, some not so much.
My problem is energy and motivation at this stage, it comes and goes and i will be 4 months clean next week.
So it affects us all differently.
My only suggestion is start exercising now and dont stop, just a little bit of light exercise each day.
Its crucial for your brain to help it repair as fast as possible.
I stopped exercising and wish i hadnt of.
Greatest of luck to you. : )
I was very lucky detoxing subs, i slept every night and had minimal withdrawals. Some people are lucky, some not so much.
My problem is energy and motivation at this stage, it comes and goes and i will be 4 months clean next week.
So it affects us all differently.
My only suggestion is start exercising now and dont stop, just a little bit of light exercise each day.
Its crucial for your brain to help it repair as fast as possible.
I stopped exercising and wish i hadnt of.
Greatest of luck to you. : )
I DID THE EXACT SAME THING MET A MAN THAT TURNED ME ON 2 DRUGS.NVR B4 HAD I TAKEN THEM HYDROS.LONG STORY SHORT I HAVE BEEN ON SUBS FOR ALMOST 6 YR'S I FEEL LIKE IM GOING 2 DIE IF I DNT TKE THEM I HAVE WENT 3 DAY'S B4 & I CNT DO IT!WHY DO THE DOCTORS NOT TELL U YOUR JUST SWITCHING ONE DRUG FOR ANOTHER I HAVE HAD HYDRO WITHDRAWL & IT WAS SO BAD & NOW IT'S THE SUBS.WHAT CAN I DO I HAVE 3 CHILDREN IM RASING ON MY OWN.ISN'T THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN TAKE THE WITHDRAWL AWAY???PLEASE HELP ME.SRRY ABT THE CAPS.
Okay im back and now its day 11 and counting! I had energy yesterday that I went to my uncles party for his and my nephews bday and he gave my kids rides on the 4wheeler which they loved! I actually slept like 7 hours last night for the first time and I didn't take melatonin because the last two nights I did and it made me feel yucky and drwosy the next day! So all natural for me I guess! Lol but I'm sitting here eating apple jacks for breakfast at 9:25 am and to answer where I live I now live in canton ga I came from my birth place of Akron Ohio 9 months ago! My suggestion to subhate: either see if your sub doctor has a protocol where they wheene u off or see if they can help u with the green and white pill that stops the pins and needles and the little yellow pill that helps u with keeping your blood pressure down and some nausea pills! Or look up recovering outpatient docs or see if a family member would be willing to help u so u could go into a detox center for 7 days. They make u comfortable and it can be beneficial! I can only hope the best for u and pray and tell u I had to put my faith into god! I had to ask for forgiveness! It seems to be really helping me! My kids are happy I'm off suboxones so their working with me! I keep reminding them to pick up after themselves but I still guide them and help pick out clothes for school etc. And thanks everyone else on the healing tips I jog in place and do stretches! My thing is I want to help others all the time and right now I have to be kinda selfish and focus on my recovery but this is helping me feel like I'm kinda helping! So I feel good! Yeah I did do it and I'm very proud of myself! I'm opposite energy isn't really my problem the lack of sleep and restlesness is but I've pulled through this long and if I can do it after being hooked for 13 yrs then so can others!
Now I need N/A support for 90 days straight! I know it will help but I've learned in the past don't be so quick to make friends because I did in the past and they relapsed and so did I!
Oh and I need to say this right now! All these suboxone doctors care about is their income ive been to more than a few and not one had a protocol to want to help get me off of them! This is why I went cold turkey!
Wow what a change a day can bring. So glad you seem to be over the hump now. Hopefully all down hill from here.
Have a wonderful day!!!
Have a wonderful day!!!
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I couldnt agree with u more. Or SubHate. You both spoke the truth and honestly, this special "certificate" u need to prescribe the subs is ****! It's $$$ only! I was on it for 6 yrs and my Dr was never going to taper me. Be very careful Kelly, taking pills to be able to handle the w/d. This is something u must go through and if u make it too easy, it will be real easy to forget how u got there. Pills to cover pain is how.we started this **** in the first place. By day 11 I wouldn't have left my house, and eating??? It's the pills that are allowing u to do that so I'd be really.careful!
I realized that yesterday! I had severe w/d yesterday day and the whole day before for taking melatonin and so last night I decided not to take it and guess what I slept 7 hours without it! But today I feel crummy again! Its only night time I feel somewhat better to get out! But that's also probably why I slept so good! I'm just tired of being cold and clammy and worn down! This is tuff but I can't turn back now! I'm having my mom pick me up appleas bananas and pears and grapes I just want to eat lots of fruit and do this naturally! I got it! And I learned I can't drink caffeine! I'm shakey enough most the day! Thanks for your comcern!
I know you have faith and it has helped me to remember that God helps those who help themselves. Stay strong. Keep fighting.
Day 12 didnt sleep so be well this time but its going to be okay! I cant wait for the day I quit sneezing! Lol
Well today is day 16 since I've been off suboxone! And wow 2 days in a row I'm feeling for the most part way better! I just slpet 11hours! Amazing! Still just a little shakey! But today is the day I'm going to my first N/A meeting! I've seeked counseling and got back on my bipolar meds! I believe we need counseling because if were addicts aren't we depressed? I'm a dual diagnostic issue that needs to take care of not only the addict in me but also the depression in me! So if I take care of both I believe I can stay clean! I do believe finding the reason why I began all of this in the first place will help me with my recovery! It hasn't been easy I'm not going to lie but my brain is healing! I feel it! Trust me if I can do this being small and scared and not knowing what came next then I believe others can too! Were stronger than we realize! I'm never looking back! I've relapsed 4 times! Relapse I believe also is part of recovery! I've never made it 1/2 a month so I'm happy! But I'm still aware! So yea me! I love me!
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