I haven't come clean at AA, only with a select few - I am on Tramadol for serious back pain - I can barely move with it. My Dr. is aware of my addictions, and I have stayed within the prescription for over a year now.
But I don't want to deal with any fall out or negative vibes - I've worked hard to stay clean and sober, and I don't need someone making me feel crappy.
A few friends of mine in AA are on methadone, same idea as sub - my opinion is we are all trying to do the same thing - stay clean and sober - cold turkey sometimes just isn't possible, so whatever you need to do to get yourself there - just keep the goal in focus.
Ok and I feel for your loss. Methadone or sub might be ok for a while as long as you don't stay on too long. These are strong synthetic drugs and I don't think everything is understood about sub yet. all the best
I'm staying on it for 6 months. I totally would understand and agree about the quick detox and taper method with it. However, given what life has thrown my way, I'm looking into the maintenance program. I want some good clean time under my belt to deal with another, some other very very important issues that need my full attention NOW. They can not me put on hold while I try to conquer this demon. You can think what you want about that, but that's what I need right now for me. If you've read my other posts, I think you MIGHT understand. If I hadn't had lost my father honestly, I would do this on my own. I was already doind this on my own. But the pain is too much, and I for the first time have that emotional pain people talk about which is now causin me to use. I took my last dose yesterday around noon and already the emotions are overwhelming me about my father...and I want to use again. But I have an appt at 2:00 for the sub. My dad might say this is a short term solution for a long term problem....and that may be, but I need some relief from this nightmare so I can deal with this death first, and I'll deal with the addictionMORE head on later. Don't get me wrong, I'll be in therapy and NA meetings. I just can't handle the cravings and mind games right now. I have enough without the pills.
WOW< I'm long winded this morning
Loni
Just go to AA it's less cultish and they don't care. I just want to know one thing about sub. Isn't it for detox? why are people staying on it so long? I know it's good for the doctors bank acct. but is it really nesessary?
I was on methadone & went to several meetings & I was welcomed with open arms, most of the people dont frown upon this nor do they judge you, the only drawback is you wont get a key-chain, I did,nt get one untill I was clean from methadone, but regardless this is a great program full of people who understand where you have been, & where you are going. Penelope
If they don't accept you because you are trying to better yourself then find another group you don't need to be there. You need to be in a group or some kind of counseling right now so if there is a problem go somewhere else. I think you will find they are accepting though there are people in NA groups on Methadone so I wouldn't worry.
Hugs,
Chi
Well if they frown on someone for using a medicine to get clean then that just wouldn't be right. You are working a program to get clean. I don't know but I will be finding out soon as I am going to start going next week. Oh by the way I checked out the website you told me about. Man do I feel alot better. I read some of the success stories in the forum and that shines a whole new light on things. Thanks for the hook up.
I do believe they are all different...i went to group...now i am down south..while i was tapering...if i was still taking anything i was supposed to not mention it...it still benefited me to go to the meetings tho...i am not sure if sub is the same as your doc with them tho...to me that is different as you have quit your doc...feel it out
are you under a doctors care for this fast taper? going too fast off that high of a benzo dose can be dangerous hun...seriously, no joke....very dangerous...
NA says take meds as prescribed and stop when able and to use no "mind altering drugs" so if the dr prescribed it and like people say,,,you dont get high on it then no problem. Actually ,I"d keep it between me and my sponser if I felt uncomfortable. Either way though if ya have a desire to quit then by all means go,,gl
Cool, thanks, that's why I was asking.....
come on people dont you know your traditions Na has no opinions on outside issues. that includes prescription drugs. Now if your abusing your script this is a different issue.
the only requirment for membership in na and aa is the DESIRE TO stop using. Even if your abusing your percritions and you really have the desire to quit you should be welcome in aa or na. Some people dont know how to quit when they first come into the rooms thats why na and aa accept people who are still using but have the desire to stop. Some *** holes in na and aa will tell you different but this is fact and traditions. If na and aa rejected you for being on subutex of subuxone or being high very few of us would be clean and sober
Welcome....Do you know how to post? At the top of this "thread" there is a "post question" button which allows you to start your own topic. Great job you're doing!!! That' saweseom you are tapering that well! Do share! Sub is Suboxone and is a drug to help people detox and/or stay clean off of opiate.... you can google to find out more, or check out info in the health pages located at the right of the screen. Again, welcome.
I was wondering what the heck is subs? Can someone please tell me? I'm on week two of the wean off of Valium and am down frome 10mg two weeks ago to 5 mg this week. This Saturday I make a big 3mg drop and go to 2 mg for a week and then 1 mg for a week and hopefully off but was told I might have to take 1 mg every other day for a while. I just can't wait to get off of it! Good luck to all of you and God bless you all. I'm so glad this place is here for people to come to for help and compassion from other that understand what you are going through. I feel like if I can come here and share my story with someone that it helps that will make me feel like I have done what I should do to help someone else not have to suffer through what I did.
ladytexan2
do what you have to hun...you'll get by just fine...
keep me posted.
To me that'd be like them not letting people smoke or drink their coffe you know? whatever. I'll just be me and do my thing. I have to get on with life the way I see fit for now.
i have heard some NA groups accept it some dont....you would have to ask, i think
i don't know anything about NA meetings, not having gone to any, but i would think that they would be helpful to anyone trying to quit their DOC. i just had to reply, as i can't stand for anyone to be ignored. hopefully someone who knows will respond soon.
Lucy
I don't go to NA , but at my AA mtg. there is a woman on sub and no one cares. I dont' think it should really matter one way or the other. GOOD LUCK, FLUTTER!