ONce again....Look up the COWS scale for opiate withdrawal, pupils,lacrimation etc.
Are you decreasing your amount?
Hi Ponce I have been reading your post.. It seems you are struck with more anxiety over decreasing more then anything else.. You will know when wd sets in your nose will start to run and you will get a achy feeling thru-out Once it hits you know. A lot of peps do not feel the decrease that much till they get down lower. When you were at your highest I think 80 mgs. your symptoms were a lil alarming as it seems you were on to much.. so I would think you will be ok for a lil while yet Maybe doing something to distract yourself will help, like a puzzle our something our if you can a walk anything that will take your mind of the wd you are expecting to experience.. I wish you the very best on getting thru your taper.. lesa
John... keep asling this over and over. Like I told you before...if you have to ASK, you're probably not feeling a lot of w/d symptoms...as they are hard to miss.
I think you're biggest issue (as we've all told you) is your anxiety and overthinking everything to an extreme....almost to the point of being obsessive.
Have you taken our advice and shut off the computer and gone out to do something? You need to busy yourself to keep your mind OFF of this a little bit. Have you stopped checking your BP so much? It's possible to decrease your anxiety about this, but you have to try a little. You're working yourself into a frenzy about this every day...like weaver told you on your last thread...just surrender yourself a little, stop analyzing every little thing. Have you ever sought professional help for anxiety? If not, I highly recommend it. I think you would greatly benefit from some therapy, to help you learn how to stop this kind of thinking obsessive pattern.
There's just no way for SURE we can tell you if you're experiencing w/d or not...with your gradual decrease, if you DO have any, it's probably very mild at this point. You're still on a fairly hefty dose. Also, as we've told you, it's usually not until you get into the lower doses where you really start feeling more severe w/d symptoms. You may get through this a lot better than you think, but you MUST start trying not to ruminate so much.
Can you at least TRY? I've had anxiety all of my life, so I know it isn't easy to stop those kinds of thinking habits, but it IS doable...you must put forth some effort to help yourself.
I decreased today five mgs so im at 59mgs every tues i will go down 5mgs till 0mgs i hope. The reason why i keep saying that is because i feel the same way i did when i was withdrawling off my norcos the yellow ones 10s that i used to eat like candy. but thats what it feels like , i could be wrong. but my doctor said today my blood pressure was fine and shes not gonna change my meds. i told her how tired i get when i take my meds she said its the methadone. im more drousy today than i was yesterday nothing is different except i decreased on my dose 5mgs . so i dont know it just makes me feel better to talk about it , if iam withdrawling maybe it wont be long before it will stop?
Go for a walk if you can. Staying active right now will help you feel better.
sorry i will try .ive had alot of anxiety myself but every thing was fine till i put myself on the methadone. when i was using the pain meds i was ok as long as i didnt run out then like every one else sick. the high wasent there any more as every one knows.But i wasent all crazy like i am since i got on this crazy drug.
I know i clean the house a bunch of times . im trying to stay active i just dont know what to expect when it dose kick in as you know we all heard some crazy things that can happen to us but of course we dont know till it dose.
I know this is hard for you ponco but maybe it wont be as bad as you are expecting. When i went thru wd's i just decided i had to go thru this part to finally free myself from the drugs. The more you worry the more your brain plays those games. Take some deep breaths.....
hi im decreaseing 5mgs a week today went down every tues. 5mgs im at 59mgs
i didnt answer your questions sorry i have been going for walks not checking my bp that much 2 times a day
that is great john that you have been walking, not checking your bp. you are obsessing too much. just take it as it comes. question for you is if you are having w/d symptoms what will you do anyway? you will just have to go through it.
you are definitely not overdosing. if you were fine at 80mgs you can no way be overdosing as you decease your mg's.
keep yourself busy, stop obsessing about it, just take it as it comes,
pray,deep breathes, relax, you are doing great. you are tapering off,
you are breaking free.
keep the faith...............
I know i clean the house a bunch of times . im trying to stay active i just dont know what to expect when it dose kick in as you know we all heard some crazy things that can happen to us but of course we dont know till it dose. .
That's part of the problem probably...you've probably overloaded yourself reading about it. There are many horror stories out there...and while it may not necessarily be a picnic to come off, everyone has different experiences, you have to just let yourself have your own experience.
You've complained of the drowsiness all along, and your doc (and others) have told you it's the Methadone. Methadone DOES cause drowsiness, that will improve as you drop down with your dose. While it may be annoying...later in the detox process, sleep will be hard to come by most likely, so enjoy your rest now!
Anxiety will cause a person to "catastriophize" which is someone thinking and worrying about the absolute worst possible case scenario. The more you do that, the more likely you WILL feel worse, you will condition yourself to feel badly.
I know this is hard, but this is going to be a long process, and the more you can do to help yourself find some acceptance and just wait and see what's going to happen, the better off you'll be. The more you keep yourself busy, the more distracted you will be, the less you will be ruminating.'
It's great that you've stopped taking your BP so much, that's a start! Now, the next thing is, if you're searching the internet a lot, you need to stop...that will fuel your anxiety a lot.
Hang in there John...you're doing much better than you give yourself credit for!
the only thing driveing me crazy is why i keep nodding out , today was worst than yesterday the only thing different is i decreased 5mgs now im on 59mgs 19mgs ive decreased no one can figure that one out. and no one has heard that decreaseing makes you more sleepy?
Some of that COULD be anxiety related. When you're chronically in a state of high anxiety, it's exhausting. Have you had a regular physical lately? It wouldn't be a bad idea if you haven't....make an appt with your regular doctor. It may be totally unrelated to the Methadone.
When i was in the hospital for anxiety and chest pains , they did all kinds of blood test ,for my heart ekg a bunch of them due to me going in 2 to 3 times a week. i was addmited twice . i had to do a stress test whicth i didnt pass. they wanted me to have a angieogram but i refused being scared . i was haveing kidney prob. from all the blood pressure meds i was on before, thats another thing i was on clinodine most the time i was on methadone for my blood pressure, i wonder if that can make a difference wd off the methadone since its used for withdrawls? i think i spelled it wrong clonidine that looks bet. anyways i had xrays chest, stomach, ultrasound on my stomach the hospital coverd about everything I do have a enlarged prostate i had a blood test for that i guess the blood test was with in limits. my doc today thinks im constipated of course im takeing miralax which i take just about every day .i know i smoke alot cigarettes and drink coke and coffee. thats about it?
So you failed a stress test, they recommended an angiogram, and you never had it done? You need to follow up with that dear! The way you feel may be related to something totally seperate from the Methadone. You're also on other meds...and with the anxiety, it's no wonder you're tired.
Follow up with the cardiologist. That's not anything to blow off.
And lay off the caffeine too! That's no good for anxiety!
Hi its vic again. I agree with them above and yes cigs coke caff its all a stimulant. YES EVERYONES EXPERIENCE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT I myself believe that it is how much, how long, and age. Anyway I was thinking of you but sometimes I can't find the post,anyway my ? is why did you go on methedone to a clinic? Herion, other opiates ect. Now my pills came in 10mgs so I was to take 1-2 Three times a day (I almost did the nursing way of writeing this since I have been doing for 24 yrs) anyway when I would take over 40mgs at once I was Ok but if I took any more then that without spreading it out I would sweat, my heart raced and I would feel anxiety bad. I can not beliveve they give you a high dose once a day without spreading it out. Whats up with that. Even all the dr here spread the pills out for the day as they take very little weekly away. Also How is your sugar level that has alot to do with how we feel. Go to a dr and talk to them about this and maybe another easier way to taper through out the day instead of a bang WOW what a buzz I would be muliti tasking in my work all day all night. I do know some other people when they take a large amount of methedone they nod too! See we are all different so will be your detoxing stages you will be just FINE min by min
God Bless You
p.s. did you get my last post regarding how the meetings help to relate
Hi again Are you on the BP meds if so in my first 30 days clean I took clonidine for 2 weeks I took it one day during the day and I nodded out like I was on herion or downers. I would only take one at night to sleep for only two weeks cause you know I take the mag,d,cal for sleep now. SOOO maybe. HANG IN
I don't think you should have ever taken 80mg, but since you where on it for months, you are not likely od. It accumulates in your system, but you are decreasing in amount, so you won't od. I agree with others, it would be better if you could do half dose at breakfast and half dose at dinner. I think you are just getting high from it, not od though. You take the whole dose at once and then slowly start coming down, day after day. I would have never felt very good had I only taken it once a day. I would take 100mg in the morning and 20-40mg every 1 to 2 hrs to keep me stable all day and night. I still woke up needing some methadone. You may want to try taking less and wait an hr or so. If you feel worse, take more, but I bet you'll feel better with a more stable blood level. You should ask the clinic if that's okay.
ya im on metoprolol 12,5 one tab. 2 times a day. and nifediac cc 30mgs i take 1 tab. daily.its for my high blood pressure
and i was told methadone puts weight on you, my case for some reason im loseing it. I weight 150 last week yesterday i checked it again 144lbs so i dont know ,i eat well ? thank you and GOD BLESS YOU JOHN
The clinic will only give me my full dose liquid that is a prob. but like i told you the sleepyness really is bad, so what your saying im not od ing i cant be going down?