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to everyone looking for help and hope please read for yourself overcoming narcotic addiction
well i am here to tell all who do not posses the power of struggle, i have been taking hard narcotics for 6 1/2 years those drugs made me do horrible things and things i am not proud of but i stand here today sober and clean and no more withdrawl feelings. i started out playing semi pro football and got injured with a spinal cord concussion and 2 lower herniated discs so that means yes i got prescribed oxycontin,vicodin,percocet,darvocet,roxycet,loritab,and methadone. and please anyone who is thinking about going to a detox place, please think twice about it. if you want them to fill your body with horrible drugs just to get you hooked on something else, its not worth it. there is no hope in clinics. i see doctors as drug dealers the more you come in the more they get payed especially right now in this economy. people i have taken oxycontin 80 mg 9 times a day, and 10 mg of percocet and vicodin 15 times a day, i was almost a freakin vegitable.
look plain and simple you are the one in control of your life narcotics are the devils drug, my withdrawls lasted almost a full year till my body got back to normal, the hard withdrawls where the famous feeling like a dead fish flopping outside of the water, cold chills, shaking badly after i woke up, couldent or dident want to move at all, throwing up for no reason, peeeing out of my rear end, pure hell..and like i said take control of your life and just stop, the reason your body is doing the withdrawls is because its doing its best to get back to its "a" game. what helped me was my strong will to survive i did this to myself and now i had to clean myself....there is hope pray to god or whatever you believe in. you do not need depression meds you do not need more drugs, shut up sit down and survive. i am clean now for almost 2 years now i have no cravings i do not want that again....point blank if my arm gets shot off, just pass me the tequila and a couple of advil
look plain and simple you are the one in control of your life narcotics are the devils drug, my withdrawls lasted almost a full year till my body got back to normal, the hard withdrawls where the famous feeling like a dead fish flopping outside of the water, cold chills, shaking badly after i woke up, couldent or dident want to move at all, throwing up for no reason, peeeing out of my rear end, pure hell..and like i said take control of your life and just stop, the reason your body is doing the withdrawls is because its doing its best to get back to its "a" game. what helped me was my strong will to survive i did this to myself and now i had to clean myself....there is hope pray to god or whatever you believe in. you do not need depression meds you do not need more drugs, shut up sit down and survive. i am clean now for almost 2 years now i have no cravings i do not want that again....point blank if my arm gets shot off, just pass me the tequila and a couple of advil
Ya know, maybe I missed reading something (it’s very possible) but I didn’t see the "getting put down" post by mr lucky. I guess I can be a hot head too sometimes -- im super sensitive today I guess..... Not having a great day... take care!
being hostile in my mind is someone being mentally insane and going postal and lashing out in a bank or something and going completly nuts, my case well hostile na i know after all my hardwork and the strength to get through im not going to let someone tell me diffrent, everyone has there own opinion and there in titled to it. and again hostile, im a human being i have feelings and i can be hurt and oh god yes i can get very angery. it was my anger that fueled me to stop narcotics. so ask yourself that question after many times of flirting with death and many times withdrawling and then you finally find hope and survival and you beat your addiction, and you are clean for many years and all you want to do is help others and as much as you can, without being selfish, and then someone comes along and pretty much critizes you and puts you down, and trying to make you go back into addiction by saying most likly youll fail, oh yeah thats good advice. look if you want me to clarify my statements then ask dont jump to conclusions. take what you will out of my statements its ok with me peoples minds think diffrent and the whole time writing to that guy i was thinking wow i was once that guy, mr. negativity, no hope and letting others try and do my healing for me..nope not me. i am not going to back down. my words are strong to the T in which by the way you have to be strong to overcome this evil drug. im here to break peoples fear im here to help people understand no you wont really die and yes the symptoms will go away. every where you go people will always take wrong impressions and judge others way to quick with out asking questions. i said nothing wrong to people ive hurt no one, when people thought diffrently they asked then i told then they understood. have a question ask dont jump to conclusions..i stand here stronger than i ever was before narcotics, i believe in myself to overcome any course thrown my way. but i will not let someone down me for my hard work and suffering.
yep, im on day 7 of my detox, feeling like sh#t today......... anxious....... i just posted on my original post.......
jw, dude, you seem so hostile ---- you and mr lucky both have said things here to help people, I got something from both of your posts, I don’t understand your hostility? I thought living without, chemicals & drugs was suppose to make you a calm, rational, gentle, peaceful person.... just curious, im new here, but when I have 2 years of being clean, I hope im not so angry & judgmental of people just trying to help and or who are memely expressing their opinions
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You have to respect this addiction......the minute you let your guard down it can get you. I am a recovering addict and that is how i plan to spend the rest of my life by taking it one day at a time.............sara
Entertaining read. All the best to the original poster -- you set a few people off 'cause your approach may work fine for you, but it's presumptuous in the extreme to suggest it's the only way to play it. Some rehabs have staff who give a damn, and a medically-assisted w/d is the wisest approach for heavy users ...
mr.lucky's pulled a few peoples' chain with his absolutism as well, but he makes sense. Just doesn't mince words, is all ... off subject here, but the flag thing kinda creeps me out ...
I think it was randy who asked about trazodone's sexual side-effects -- besides the old "Droopy Richard" thing at higher doses, there are rare reports of this a/d causing a condition called "priapism," or unusually lengthy erections. I can hear the one-liners forming in your minds, but (and I can't emphasize how rarely this happens, according to the manufacturers' information) if you're taking it and you, um, "stay alert" for two hours or more, you have to head to ER, unless you want to risk permanent damage to Richard, which may include The End Of All That Fun.
As an anti-depressant, it's rarely prescribed now that serotonin reuptake inhibitors have been refined with the SSRis and the SSNRIs, but as a sedative, in the short run, it's a useful alternative to addictive drugs like benzodiazepines.
Hope that helps.
mr.lucky's pulled a few peoples' chain with his absolutism as well, but he makes sense. Just doesn't mince words, is all ... off subject here, but the flag thing kinda creeps me out ...
I think it was randy who asked about trazodone's sexual side-effects -- besides the old "Droopy Richard" thing at higher doses, there are rare reports of this a/d causing a condition called "priapism," or unusually lengthy erections. I can hear the one-liners forming in your minds, but (and I can't emphasize how rarely this happens, according to the manufacturers' information) if you're taking it and you, um, "stay alert" for two hours or more, you have to head to ER, unless you want to risk permanent damage to Richard, which may include The End Of All That Fun.
As an anti-depressant, it's rarely prescribed now that serotonin reuptake inhibitors have been refined with the SSRis and the SSNRIs, but as a sedative, in the short run, it's a useful alternative to addictive drugs like benzodiazepines.
Hope that helps.
you just showed your true colors are what you are all about with those comments.A big 0 bye! there's no REAL recovery here.
im sorry i cant understand you when you mumble. stop mumbling, im not here to argue with you and your the one that shouldent be taken seriously, and your the teacher? man no wonder the world is the way it is right now with people like you teaching others. and who says im upset, your just a walking example of what people can become. and what the hell is up with this drinking thing? who's drinking, your not worth the sweat off my forehead. man go get laid or something go play in the street or whatever you do. point blank mean people suck, and you my friend suck the big one..now ....have a nice day
I sorry that you are so upset and are coming unglued. You aren't making much sense and you should proof read what you write. I want people here to get through detox and stay off of dope if that's what they really want to do. All this other stuff about not taking meds and drinking is not nesesary. I have been posting here and have been clean off of dope and methadone for 6 years. The kind of junk you write shouldn't be taken seriously, I've seen much better.
you know i had this long comment i was gonna send you but your not worth my time. i have nothing to prove to you, people like you is why i dont go to chruch because they come right outside with that same negativity but before they plead to god for forgiveness. go give some one else negative thoughts do you even believe in god. this is what i worn people about the people who come around and say you cant do it when bull **** you can do it like i said before incase you dident i have been clean for 2 years actually going on my 3rd. you have no idea how powerful the mind is and this is why you go around with you thoughts of being REAL. the real thing was i would not accept my self being a junkie i would not accept myself being an addict yeah i think about it, hey i think about sex, hey i think about being a millionare i think about alot of things, wow does that mean i can control my thoughts..good luck to you in your path of reaking peoples lives which you sound like your pretty good at. you act like your the devil wanting people to fall back down. well good luck on that. I AM DIFFRENT I CHOSE MY LIFE I CHOSE MY DAUGHTERS AND MY WIFE I CHOSE TO GROW OLD IN HAPPYNESS. see here dude you learn alot when your alone in your mind i cant help those other junkies you call them dident choose. you have that free will to choose. i was very determined and to this day nothing can stop me. so good luck on your negative side of things and may god bless your soul cause i can tell you need it.
I think you have a great message. But in your original post where you state that "you do not need depression meds", I think that is a dangerous comment to make. Many do need that type of medication. Not all medication is bad and some need it to live. I really appreciate your story. It is an inspriration to many, I just think you have to be careful with those types of comments. God Bless
This is the Addiction and Substance Abuse" Community. Social Addiction is on another page.
MOST of the people who come on here are looking for help or advice or just someone to talk to in order to deal with their illness. I don't know about you but I had rather hear from someone who has been through this hell and has managed to stay clean for two years than to hear from someone who has no posts other than to say hurtful things about jw. I guess you have nothing better to do......... and just re-read your own posts man, you ARE being negative!
MOST of the people who come on here are looking for help or advice or just someone to talk to in order to deal with their illness. I don't know about you but I had rather hear from someone who has been through this hell and has managed to stay clean for two years than to hear from someone who has no posts other than to say hurtful things about jw. I guess you have nothing better to do......... and just re-read your own posts man, you ARE being negative!
I not being negitive but real. I've been around dope and junkies since 1970 and was one myself.My people who say they are cured are fooling themselves. You talk about people being weak and not everyone can be "strong " or a winner like you say you are. I have seen and heard this kind of bravado many many times before and it's nothing new. Most people who are really cured (and I've met a few), don't sound like you. Maybe you are cured for life but it deosn't often happen that easy and fast. I not trying to be negitive but real! this dope/junkie thing ain't easy to get off from but I have seen these kinds of miracles before but they sounded different than you. For me and most others who have spend decades being junkies, it takes time, God and hard work. Anyone can get through withdrawals and stay clean for some months but the trick is to keep doing it year after year.
i just want people to know it can be done to let go of the fear of withdrawl and the thought that it will never stop because it will. i know when people are negative it is because they are weak to do it, and are scared to open up like a book, i was once that mr. tough guy who knew it all and cocky. i thank god for what i went through, because my eyes and ears are open and my heart goes out to others
If a man spent 6 yrs sayin " I think i can... I think i can " and finally got to the other side and can now say " I KNOW I CAN " . Why would someone want him to go backwards and start sayin " I think i can again? Congrat's to those who KNOW and godspeed to those who's thinking.....Can i ? .... Best wish's to all ..... Craig
Why post to put someone down? I don't understand this!! jw speaks for alot of people on here and has some very positive things to say,. did he go after anyone on this forum? No! Did he offer hope and his strength to others?, Yes! I hope he lets no one stop him, criticism is everywhere but it shouldn't be on these forums!
Ella
Ella
ive been off suboxone now for 4 days and i feel ok a lil trouble sleepin thats about it, and my back hurts like hell(originally what i was put on pain killers for eventually moved to heroin) but what amazed me is that the first sub doctor i saw told me that after im clean there'll come a poin when ill need opiates again! he said that its ok to take them after i was clean! i told that mother f#$@!*^ he was crazy and found another doctor! i dont think anyone who goes through this would ever want to again. i mean im 22 i have a three year old son i dont have time to sit around in withdrawls!
keep telling your self that mr lucky. man you have no idea what i have been through, no idea but i will tell you this i was you i was the junky stealing from my own mother who has polio and risking her to not get her meds anymore becuase she was running out to quickly dont come here and spread you negativity, in your picture that flag that flag used to stand for strength and courage of our past fathers and sufferers in battle. in this life there are people who are weak and if your still an addict that i will say your weak, yeah mumbo jumbo stuff right na i dont know what im saying. im not asking for people to be impressed im not looking for a freakin high five and what not, people need help and i will go out of my way to help, if your a failure then be a failure. most times im mean whats your problem? and seriously man that was a joke about the tequila thing its that i much rather do that than return to pain killers..what you want me to say im an addict? ...no cause that would ba a lye, but i will say yes i USED to be an addict...its ok you cant change the world but you can try some will listen some wont and dont worry mr. lucky when your ready im right here for you
I'm sorry to say that I'm not impressed with the poster's pitch. It all sounds good but I've seen and heard this many times before and most of the time this "overconfidence" is the kiss of death. If you were a real hardcore addict and think you've got it beat,most times, you will fail. all cases are different and I can't generalize about everyone.
Hi!! Well, I know that experience had to be a bummer!! Some of these places do treat people like they have the plague, even some of the pain management places do that!!
There is a small town not far from where I live and their councilors ( two of them anyway) have had real life experiences as former addicts ( they have been clean for a number of years.) And they offer their experiences during their counciling. I just thought of that as I was reading your post. They work at one of the alcohol drug abuse centers there. I wish more places had people in them like that. How hard it must be talking to someone who has never been down that road, only "read & observed it" !!!
Ella
There is a small town not far from where I live and their councilors ( two of them anyway) have had real life experiences as former addicts ( they have been clean for a number of years.) And they offer their experiences during their counciling. I just thought of that as I was reading your post. They work at one of the alcohol drug abuse centers there. I wish more places had people in them like that. How hard it must be talking to someone who has never been down that road, only "read & observed it" !!!
Ella
i think i feel the same way. when i quit, all i wanted to do was help others to do the same. so i figured i would get a job along that. but you have to play by their rules. and the medical proffesion does not have a clue on a good way to help people quit yet.
their answer is always more drugs.
so i found a clinic that claimed to only use organic methods. but they were so snooty, when i wrote them and asked about employment there and what they would require, they did not even write me back. guess they do not want anyone with r e a l experience.
i have thought it would cool to open up a place to help people. but have no idea where to even start. all i know is drugs do not get you off of drugs.
their answer is always more drugs.
so i found a clinic that claimed to only use organic methods. but they were so snooty, when i wrote them and asked about employment there and what they would require, they did not even write me back. guess they do not want anyone with r e a l experience.
i have thought it would cool to open up a place to help people. but have no idea where to even start. all i know is drugs do not get you off of drugs.
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