too good, too soon?

[60sandy]

Is it possible to be taking approx. 300 mg roxy, go  cold turkey and on day three eat, walk around, converse normally, just some aches and pains.  Started suboxone. but thought that took 24 to 36 hours to kick in. . . . is this on the level or is someone not really clean?

[detox1]

Waismann Method Sees 110 Percent Increase in Suboxone® Detoxification Treatments from 2007 to 2008

BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. (Feb. 09, 2009) – The Waismann Method, leaders of opiate detoxification under anesthesia, announced an increase in patients seeking treatment for dependency to Suboxone®, also known as Subutex® or Buprenorphine from 2007 to 2008. In addition, findings from an online survey revealed that more than 66 percent of respondents who are currently taking Suboxone to treat a dependency to opiates do not feel like they could stop taking it without assistance. Suboxone is a medication prescribed by doctors to treat opiate dependency.
“Suboxone is referred to as a cure for dependency to opiate-based painkillers including Oxycontin®, Vicodin®, Lortab® and Fentanyl, however, because it is half-opiate in composition it can create the same type of physical reliance as any other opiate,” said Clare Kavin, executive director for the Waismann Method. “Many patients have the misconception that because this drug is prescribed by their doctors that it is safe and effective, but they must be educated on the potential risks. While I commend the efforts of the program to reduce disease, crime and addiction that can stem from drug abuse, Suboxone doesn’t fix the underlying problem of physical dependency.”

According to the survey, of those using Suboxone to treat a dependency:

54% said they “were NOT told “that they could develop physical dependency to Suboxone.

89 % said they always experience withdrawals if they miss a dose of the drug.

66 % said they could not stop taking Suboxone without assistance.

More than 41 percent said they had been taking Suboxone longer than originally prescribed.

“Suboxone is becoming more readily available and we are learning that people with dependencies are abusing and selling it in the same way as drugs like Oxycontin and Methadone,” said Kavin. “We hope this is a wake-up call to physicians that this drug has the potential to be a dangerous addition to the slew of prescription drugs currently being abused”.

[TrayCee]

Suboxone stops withdrawals almost immidately

[ochooked]

The answer to your question is yes.  Suboxone stops W/D's and holds them at bay -  until you try to stop the Suboxone.  The W/D's will then come with a vengence.  I recommend you go to the Health Pages -- (top right side of this page) and look for a post titled "Members Experiences coming off of Suboxone."   It  may enlighten you to read of several peoples exerience with this powerful narcotic.  All the best.

[hawaiimed]

suboxone must be taken after withdrawals start in; usually about 8 hours or so from last oxy dose (opiate) I would think.
If there is still opiate in the system, suboxone will cause illness.
Sub works right away; within the hour to relieve withdrawals.
See comments on how suboxone is a double edged sword.