Clean 90 days then relapsed

[Wize4u]

I've been clean from Norco's for 90 days after 10 years of using, then today I took 4.5 Norco's.  Tomorrow I plan to go right back to staying clean, I've got a few weeks supply left of Suboxone, so I don't have to do it cold turkey but if anyone's been in a similar situation before I would appreciate any advice, you might have.

[Wize4u]

I no longer see the Norco Doctor, like I said, I'm through with that, I never felt that way before, All those years I wanted to take the Norco, I wasn't fooling myself.  Right now all I need to achieve is tapering down the suboxone.  So today as an experiment instead of the 1.5mg of suboxone I took 0.25mg and I got through the day no problem.  Tomorrow's another day though, if it's true what I've been reading about the longer half life of suboxone then the next few days could be rough.  I had this similar experience when I quit smoking many many years ago, once I made up my mind to quit it was pretty easy, I didn't have the physical sickness like you get with opiate WD's, which is why I took the suboxone route, I really have to hand it to anyone that can detox of opiates without the help of something like suboxone, in my mind it's a miracle drug, it allows one to function normally while getting off the pain meds. I realize many people on this site don't share that same sentiment but everyone's different.  I was too physically sick to do my job so I saw no other way for me.  Anyhow I feel like I'm in the homestretch here and looking forward to not Boeing on anything very soon.

[Wize4u]

I didn't realize that Suboxone was considered so negatively, I may have not provided enough information, after 10 years of Norco, which began from chronic back pain for even longer and then you cannot get off these things, couldn't sleep, heart was racing, felt extremely tired all the time, so I for the past 2 years I've been seeing a doctor who treated me with 2mg of Suboxone per day, the problem was I still had the back pain so I went back and forth between the Norco and the subs, up till about 90 days ago, where I just went to 1.5mg / day.  I also got the impression the doctor would have been just fine treating me with suboxone indefinitely because she never talked about tapering at all.  I also never let her know I was going back and forth to the Norco's or she would have stopped treating me.  Anyhow, I completely stopped seeing her 90 days ago, I had enough suboxone where I felt I could taper myself down, then yesterday I had the relapse, so now you have the full story.  Anyhow today I took 1.5 mg of suboxone like I have been for the past 90 days and I had no problem, no WD.   However with the 4 post from you on this site, I did a lot more research about suboxone and now I understand better your apprehension to taking it.  I didn't realize people had such a difficult time getting off of it, but in hindsight it explains some of the comments made by my Doctor when I first began to see her, I told her I wanted to be off everything in 2 months and she went on and on about how you can't just ramp down subs as fast as you think.  So now what to do going forward, I don't really have many options, I've only got about max 30 days left of Suboxone and I know I'm not going back to the Norco, my mind is made up about that, so that just leaves me 30 to 50 days to ween myself off the subs depending on how much I slice the films up.  I'll keep you posted on my progress.  Seems for me the only issue I have is the heart pounds like a drum in my chest, just got to get past that. Wish me luck.

[Jinx_777]

NO NO NO throw them sub's in the trash, flush them, just get rid of them.  they are an excuse for you to relapse.  
one day is not going to put you into withdrawals anyway.

[motye51]

Big NO to the subs. No, no, no.
You hit a marker with the 90 days, just put the norco down and start again. Dont make the mistake of using the subs to  control this. Get right back up on that horse and start again.

[jifmoc]

Hey, I agree w/ jethro. I was a norco lover too. And forget the subs, you don't need em (they should only be used under Dr. care anyway) How did you get the pills? Did you cut ALL your contacts yet? We have to get rid of them. Also, aftercare is vital. What have you done re that in last 90 days?

Keep posting and keep going!

[jethro733]

Hey, I gotta say Whoa Back a minute there.

With ninety days clean, one day of taking pills is not going to put you into withdrawal.  You most definitely do not need that suboxone.  

Just get back on the horse and keep taking it one day at a time and don't beat yourself up about it.  It's pretty rare to not fall once or twice.