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I'm Toast - I know I got HIV. I have optic neuritis
Hi, just came back from my doc yesterday morning who said I have optic neuritis. That is inflammation of the optic nerve cause by HIV / Viral infection / Bacterial infection
My exposure was nothing, just a massage with handjob and nipple sucking. I didn't do anything. I think I got the virus from hand or the table.
I knew something wasn't right my eyes started hurting, headaches, burning mouth, toothaches, enlarge lymph nodes, Severe cheek pain inside, gum inflammation
How do you tell others? Your love one.
I have all the symptoms of low immune system.
My test was Duo At 4 weeks neg and oraquick fluid test at home 7 weeks - neg - none of these are reliable as it takes 13 weeks for final results.
I have all the classic symptoms. Dr. Hunter says you can't get anything..Well I'm first.
I'm done and toast.
vp
My exposure was nothing, just a massage with handjob and nipple sucking. I didn't do anything. I think I got the virus from hand or the table.
I knew something wasn't right my eyes started hurting, headaches, burning mouth, toothaches, enlarge lymph nodes, Severe cheek pain inside, gum inflammation
How do you tell others? Your love one.
I have all the symptoms of low immune system.
My test was Duo At 4 weeks neg and oraquick fluid test at home 7 weeks - neg - none of these are reliable as it takes 13 weeks for final results.
I have all the classic symptoms. Dr. Hunter says you can't get anything..Well I'm first.
I'm done and toast.
vp
SD14: R27R is correct. CDC now recommends DUO as the HIV screening test of choice and advises that 4 weeks is conclusive. not her change with the new guidelines is that Western blot is no longer the main or recommended confirmatory test for positive DUO or antibody result.
NWDIH: your reactive arthritis isn't from the handjob. ReA is triggered by a number of infections involving either the genitourinary or GI tract, including chlamdia, gonorrhea, and various diarrheal diseases. And some cases occur without any recognized trigger infection. It is simply nonsense to assume HIV has anything to do with your ReA or any other symptoms you are having. Anyway, since this forum is only for HIV issues and you don't have ie, there's no point in continuing to ask.
NWDIH: your reactive arthritis isn't from the handjob. ReA is triggered by a number of infections involving either the genitourinary or GI tract, including chlamdia, gonorrhea, and various diarrheal diseases. And some cases occur without any recognized trigger infection. It is simply nonsense to assume HIV has anything to do with your ReA or any other symptoms you are having. Anyway, since this forum is only for HIV issues and you don't have ie, there's no point in continuing to ask.
Please, with all respect scareddude14, you are simply wrong.
The CDC has even updated it's guidelines to confirm that a 4th Generation test at 28 days post exposure can be considered conclusive.
You may have the best intentions but you are simply going to further peoples anxieties with your out of date and plainly wrong information.
Nowwhatdoihave - you are fine to move on without a concern, your test is conclusive. Best wishes
The CDC has even updated it's guidelines to confirm that a 4th Generation test at 28 days post exposure can be considered conclusive.
You may have the best intentions but you are simply going to further peoples anxieties with your out of date and plainly wrong information.
Nowwhatdoihave - you are fine to move on without a concern, your test is conclusive. Best wishes
There is no test manufactured that will give a conclusive results before three months . The cdc recommends that testing should be done three months after the exposure . The initial grounds for testing is at six week and then again at three months . If there is no other potential exposure in between then the results are reliable . When someone recieves a negative result at the respective time , the the results are accurate . Symptoms ymean nothing and can relate to other illness. Test results always overrule exposure history, symptoms, and all manifestations of the brain . While the mind is a very powerful tool , it's critical that you use it wisely. I know what your going trough, I've been there ! Stop searching the website reading things that can only increase your anixities! In the meanwhile stay mellow and enjoy life . It's your life ! You own it and it doesn't own you ! Regardless of what your test results may read , embrace them ! Their yours! And at the end if the day you are still in control . It's easy to get mad or feel afraid . However, you still have life to live . Live it !
Mate, your clutching at straws trying to change your negative result ! Why??
The P24 is very sensitive abs routinely diagnoses HIV, it is further backed up with more blood tests to confirm the strain.
As long as she took blood from you then that's fine, don't over think things.
These tests are computer led tests, there is minimal human action required and they are impossible to get wrong.
You must accept that your negative Duo puts you in the clear.
You can now log off forums and move on with your life :)
Best Wishes
James
The P24 is very sensitive abs routinely diagnoses HIV, it is further backed up with more blood tests to confirm the strain.
As long as she took blood from you then that's fine, don't over think things.
These tests are computer led tests, there is minimal human action required and they are impossible to get wrong.
You must accept that your negative Duo puts you in the clear.
You can now log off forums and move on with your life :)
Best Wishes
James
The lady took one tube of blood and off it went for syphilis and HIV testing. Both came back as non reactive.
My question is p24 antigen multiples enough to be in the blood?
So are you saying the duo test is very accurate and more sensitive?
The blood was enough?
My question is p24 antigen multiples enough to be in the blood?
So are you saying the duo test is very accurate and more sensitive?
The blood was enough?
Things move on and we know more about testing now.
Your test was defo 28 days, these tests can pick the a antigen up fro ten days, I have personally known 11.
The test not only looks for the a Antibody but also part if tge virus, namely P24.
Your test is conclusive, even if you had engaged in unprotected sex with a HIV infected person, your test result still stands.
You need to accept your test and move on... There are for the record far more false positives than negatives with modern tests.
Best Wishes
James
Your test was defo 28 days, these tests can pick the a antigen up fro ten days, I have personally known 11.
The test not only looks for the a Antibody but also part if tge virus, namely P24.
Your test is conclusive, even if you had engaged in unprotected sex with a HIV infected person, your test result still stands.
You need to accept your test and move on... There are for the record far more false positives than negatives with modern tests.
Best Wishes
James
Thanks James. That really helps calming me down. You know all the weird symptoms are crazy one after another.
James - What was your exposure? And you had a duo test?
See one of my doctors told me that I must til 3 months because even duo test gives a false negative. 28 days for DUO is not enough because of false negative.
When I first got my 28 day duo test neg I was happy and went on with life, then my do said its not enough. So I started worrying more because of my symptoms not exposure.
I had the classic rash on palate, enlarge lymph nodes both armpit painless non tender, mouth sores et... All the symptoms dr hhh talks about.
I was expose July 15 at (11 pm) and took a DUO on Aug 12 (at 12) - so what does that make 27 days or 28 days.
Dr. Hhhh says you must wait few days after 28 days for conclusive duo results.
James - What was your exposure? And you had a duo test?
See one of my doctors told me that I must til 3 months because even duo test gives a false negative. 28 days for DUO is not enough because of false negative.
When I first got my 28 day duo test neg I was happy and went on with life, then my do said its not enough. So I started worrying more because of my symptoms not exposure.
I had the classic rash on palate, enlarge lymph nodes both armpit painless non tender, mouth sores et... All the symptoms dr hhh talks about.
I was expose July 15 at (11 pm) and took a DUO on Aug 12 (at 12) - so what does that make 27 days or 28 days.
Dr. Hhhh says you must wait few days after 28 days for conclusive duo results.
Why test again? Your result will not have changed!! A negative 28 day test is conclusive, your symptoms are just not relevant.
I wasted months of my life doing what you are doing, - difference is I had a potential exposure you my friend have not.
Everyone on here is giving you the best advice, this combined not only with your no risk situation but also a negative test proves you do not have HIV.
I cannot state in any more clearly, you are okay buddy and do not have HIV!!
You can let yourself off the hook now and relax :)
Best Wishes
James
I wasted months of my life doing what you are doing, - difference is I had a potential exposure you my friend have not.
Everyone on here is giving you the best advice, this combined not only with your no risk situation but also a negative test proves you do not have HIV.
I cannot state in any more clearly, you are okay buddy and do not have HIV!!
You can let yourself off the hook now and relax :)
Best Wishes
James
To be frank, I'm even scared to test now. What will do if I am positive?
I know what you said nursegirl that I'm negative and all but why the symptoms.
I know what you said nursegirl that I'm negative and all but why the symptoms.
That is the thing, I never did. What's up with the symptoms. I wouldn't make them to get attention.
For starts, How did I get Reactive Arthritis from handjob? I've read Dr.hhh and cook thread on RA and it happens with a bacterial / gastro infection. I did not have gastro infection, I did have bacterial from handjob.
Like why me?
They're for real. The new one is white jelly type of goovy that appear on top and bottom gums as well cheeks.
I mean I can't have a rare virus and go straight to aids that quickly.
I'm having too many symptoms.
For starts, How did I get Reactive Arthritis from handjob? I've read Dr.hhh and cook thread on RA and it happens with a bacterial / gastro infection. I did not have gastro infection, I did have bacterial from handjob.
Like why me?
They're for real. The new one is white jelly type of goovy that appear on top and bottom gums as well cheeks.
I mean I can't have a rare virus and go straight to aids that quickly.
I'm having too many symptoms.
Clarification: Reactive arthritis causes various kinds of eye inflammation, especially conjunctivitis or uveitis. I'm not sure whether it can cause optic neuritis. But it seems like a good bet and for sure something to discuss with whoever provides care for your ReA.
Too bad you didn't say something about your reactive arthritis from the start. ReA sometimes causes optic neuritis. If you have a rheumatologist, make sure s/he knows of your ON diagnosis.
There's nothing more we can say to you, we're not here to debate with you something we factually, scientifically know to be true.
You've already got yourself convinced of the impossible, even despite the facts and the PROOF that you don't have HIV. Tests don't lie.
Time to move on please.
You've already got yourself convinced of the impossible, even despite the facts and the PROOF that you don't have HIV. Tests don't lie.
Time to move on please.
yea i was tested for syphilis at 4 weeks, neg.
on is cause by virus like hiv, ebv, cmv or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromyelitis_optica
i don't know man, i'm lost...
first i'm diagnosis with reactive arthritis and now this optic (on)...in 8 weeks? how?
I thought hand to genital massage is risk free, no std? so am i that rare rare case dr hhh and cook talk about?
on is cause by virus like hiv, ebv, cmv or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromyelitis_optica
i don't know man, i'm lost...
first i'm diagnosis with reactive arthritis and now this optic (on)...in 8 weeks? how?
I thought hand to genital massage is risk free, no std? so am i that rare rare case dr hhh and cook talk about?
27 days, 28 days makes no difference.
You may or may not be healthy, and optic neuritis can be a serious problem -- both for its own sake and because of an underlying disease that causes it. But that doesn't mean it's HIV. Clearly it is not, and your own doctor probably said the same thing. Syphilis is a possibiility, a much more common cause of ON than HIV, and could explain all your symptoms. Were you tested for it?
"Guys, dr.hhh and cook mistaken, u can get std from handjob and massage." You don't know what you're talking about. You're making a fool of yourself.
And by the way, saliva kills HIV, it doesn't transmit it by nipple sucking or any other contact.
If you continue to be argumentative and to ignore the advice you are receiving, you are invited to stop participating in the forum.
You may or may not be healthy, and optic neuritis can be a serious problem -- both for its own sake and because of an underlying disease that causes it. But that doesn't mean it's HIV. Clearly it is not, and your own doctor probably said the same thing. Syphilis is a possibiility, a much more common cause of ON than HIV, and could explain all your symptoms. Were you tested for it?
"Guys, dr.hhh and cook mistaken, u can get std from handjob and massage." You don't know what you're talking about. You're making a fool of yourself.
And by the way, saliva kills HIV, it doesn't transmit it by nipple sucking or any other contact.
If you continue to be argumentative and to ignore the advice you are receiving, you are invited to stop participating in the forum.
I don't see healthy person from no symptoms to all symptoms in 8 weeks...
Guys, dr.hhh and cook mistaken, u can get std from handjob and massage.
Guys, dr.hhh and cook mistaken, u can get std from handjob and massage.
I feel the duo was false negative. I just don't understand all the symptoms.
If not from handjob or massage, how about from the massage table / oil / surface?
She did suck my nipples. what about her saliva?
Is oraquick reliable?
If not from handjob or massage, how about from the massage table / oil / surface?
She did suck my nipples. what about her saliva?
Is oraquick reliable?
You're relating everything to HIV, because that's what you've convinced yourself you need to worry about. It is not possible to get HIV in the manner you describe. HIV is an EXTREMELY fragile virus that requires a set of near PERFECT circumstances for transmission to occur. Your sexual encounters wouldn't allow ANY of those required factors to come into play.
Optic Neuritis is absolutely NOT HIV specific. Work with your doctor...HIV is one thing you can definitively cross off your list. If you cannot accept that HIV is not your issue, then seek the help of a mental health professional to assist you in coming to terms with that.
ACTUALLY, Optic Neuritis is MOST commonly associated with MS, which you're not worrying about. If you're not worrying about that, you certainly have no reason to worry about HIV. If you google symptoms and conditions, it's likely that you'll almost always see something that's going to relate back to whatever you're fearing.
Here's a good article about ON, and the more common causes. Note that HIV didn't even get a mention. There are countless viruses that cause infections...so when "viruses" are mentioned, that again is not HIV specific:
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/optic-neuritis/basics/causes/con-20029723
Bottom line, despite what you've convinced yourself of, with your catastrophic thinking, you do NOT have an HIV concern in any way, shape or form.
Optic Neuritis is absolutely NOT HIV specific. Work with your doctor...HIV is one thing you can definitively cross off your list. If you cannot accept that HIV is not your issue, then seek the help of a mental health professional to assist you in coming to terms with that.
ACTUALLY, Optic Neuritis is MOST commonly associated with MS, which you're not worrying about. If you're not worrying about that, you certainly have no reason to worry about HIV. If you google symptoms and conditions, it's likely that you'll almost always see something that's going to relate back to whatever you're fearing.
Here's a good article about ON, and the more common causes. Note that HIV didn't even get a mention. There are countless viruses that cause infections...so when "viruses" are mentioned, that again is not HIV specific:
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/optic-neuritis/basics/causes/con-20029723
Bottom line, despite what you've convinced yourself of, with your catastrophic thinking, you do NOT have an HIV concern in any way, shape or form.
HIV is among the rarest causes of optic neuritis, and your negative HIV test proves you don't have it. It doesn't take 13 weeks for reliable HIV test. The DUO test is conclusive any time after 4 weeks. And Dr. Hunter Handsfield is correct that you can't get HIV from the contacts you had.
You'll have to keep working with your doctor about the cause of your optic neuritis. You can stop worrying about HIV.
You'll have to keep working with your doctor about the cause of your optic neuritis. You can stop worrying about HIV.
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