It is contagious. I hook up with a couple of guys and they have told me that they get sick whenever we talk the next day. Some have even accused me of having an STD/STI which worried me. Overall, I haven’t had any problem hooking up. Now, a long term relationship, probably not so much.
PATM is cholinergic urticaria?
I think its yes because its extreme reaction. Some moment they get very close to u, next second disappear. We r very extreme persons
I consider myself good looking because beautiful women have constantly told me so. Never had a problem w getting a girl.
With that bein said, i have never been able to prove to anyone that patm is real. Ive recognized patm for 2 yrs now. Just the other day, i visited my friend at her job. She already knew about me claiming patm, but never got to see it in action, even after all the times we went out for lunch , to the movies etc. I only told her because i trust her, and have known her 4ever. So we are in her office talking, when her coworker comes in, and immediately had to stop talking. He reacted the same way as many others have when they are close to me. Almost as if he was going to throw up. Like hes trying to burp, or is trying hard to swallow. He put his hand over his mouth while he had to take a few secs to gather himself. This is the 1 reaction i hate the most. Me and my friend looked at each other, and as i was giving her the "i told u so" look, i could see the belief in her eyes now.
This was 1 of the many reactions i had told her about. After he walked out, i asked her "now do u believe me?" She said yes, and also told me she tried very hard not to laugh. Sge doesnt believe this is a bad problem to have, she thinks its amusing, but i explained to her its torture when everyone around u is doing this, anf u cant hold a real conversation.
So heres what i really wanted to share. Now she has been telling me that for the past few days, she has been making ppl sneeze uncontrollably, cogh, rubbing their nose consistently, and clearing their throat. All the usual that we patmers are used to. I dont know if particles that rub off from me are causing this, or if i passed it onto her, which i pray i didn't. That's where we are at right now.
If yall have any questions, feel free to ask.
Yes, as you see, several with PATM had a girlfriend and even wife, the problem is that the PATM limits it because it is not known whether or not it is contagious, besides the fear of causing cough. I myself had many opportunities and even with the doctor who attended me, in fact I consider myself "handsome" since I always had suitors, even with PATM I still have them, only the PATM condition stops me.
Yes. I've once had a girlfriend who told me that she was allergic to me. I was so shocked i blatantly ignored her until she herself changed the subject. It would've been the most depressing moment of my life had we not made out later that day.
Yes, as you see, several with PATM had a girlfriend and even a wife, the problem is that the PATM limits it because they do not know about themselves or not contagious, besides the fear of causing cough. I myself had many opportunities and even with the medicine that attended me, in fact I consider myself "handsome" since I always had suitors, even with PATM I still have them, only the PATM condition stops me.
Dj, did you drink coffee/caffeine during the time when PATM went away? This has been the hardest thing for me to quit.
DJ_Choppa ! I can't believe you are back! Man, I thought you kicked it's butt! I am still here....stuck and begging for answers. What is crazy is, yes, our livers are messed up due to the candida overgrowth. I didn't want to believe I had candida until I did the (spitting in a cup) test ....google it if you guys do not know what I am talking about. I definitely have an overgrowth which causes the skin rashes, the cravings for bad food, cravings for alcohol, marijuana, etc. I am really sad because I actually kicked this things butt for a month. I did the following:
Purely Hollistic Candida Cleanse (4 pills/day)
Oxy Powder (6 pills a day)
Coconut oil (obliviously organic 2 Tbsp)
Vitamin C 1000 3x a day
Max amino acids caps (4 a day)
Running in FLORIDA HEAT !! LOL
Drank my body weight in water LOL
Juice cleanses from a vegan place
I did all of that, and everything cleared up. However, I did what you did. I went to a music festival (EDC Las Vegas) and BOOM. Drank a red bull, alcohol, ate a protein bar, and everyone ran from me. It was back. I immediately left for my hotel, told everyone I was sick, and didn't move. Candida lays dormant until it is refed again. That is the problem. So....we have to switch up the herbs that we are taking to destroy it because it has unfortunately gotten STRONGER !! It's terrible. It LIVES in our liver, kidneys, duodenum (which is why everytime we breathe, people react INSTANTLY) you name an organ, it's in there. Currently, I am back on my juice cleanses and am having UNCONTROLLABLE sugar cravings!!!! To tell all of you, I have never been a person to even like cake, ice cream, cookies, etc. It's strange that I now crave those things which is why I know this is candida.
I will continue to post on all of your forums guys. We got this !! BTW , i do not have any problems hooking up. If I am with them for a long period of time, then they start to have reactions. A guy kicked me out of his house because he started to sneeze and cough.....it was over a month ago. I was so sad and embarrassed because hooking up in Orlando is common. I'm sure he told people on "Grindr" that I have something, which I do not. I get tested frequently so it sucks to be accused when you are really a clean guy STUCK WITH CANDIDA !! :)
Have a good day everyone! I wonder what happened to Hopeful and Grateful....they were really nice to chat with. They were the main reasons in which I was successful the first round!
JUSTINCASE, yea im back, but am in the process of treating n beating lol...i have the same cleanses on the way, which are arriving tomorrow. I will be duplicating most of the techniques i used when i treated this problem. I didnt do anything special, just cleaned out my body really good n stuck to the diet. It worked 4 me once, so i assume itll work again. Reactions used to be worse when i first noticed patm, so in my case, i cannot say tjat it came back stronger. This is a good sign 4 all of us.
Now to answer ur other post JUSTINCASE...U are concerned about ur future and ability to hold a job. I just want to share my story w that real quick. I immediately signed up to work from home. Couple months later i was awarded that. Alot of weight off my shoulders, until i noticed that every caller id get would immediately start coughing. The first thought that came to mind was, "theres no escaping this." I was still happy that i didmt have to be around coworkers who would slowly figure out that i was the scourge of this planet. Even tho there was comfort w my callers not knowing it was me who was tge cause, i still knew i couldnt hide 4ever. Ive had jobs, and even before patm, i never knew what i wanted as a career in my life. I thought about engineering, and then the military. So here i am in my luxury townhome, working from home, and i even tho im home, i start calling in. I cant bear to hear ppl suffering anymore. Every cough was like a dagger. Especially when they had babies around, they would always start crying. Now i know theyre babies, but i couldnt help but think that if im effecting the adult, that i might be effecting an innocent baby as well. I just couldn't get myself to login and work.
I hit a depression, and my faith in God was now the most important thing to me. I prayed for sumthn to give. This is when i came across stock trading for the 2nd time in my life. This time it was "day trading." I learned that this was a way to make crazy amts of money in just hrs. It came in right at the perfect time. I did my research, and decided i was all in. Spent my whole bonus on the education, and i started making enough to pay my bills. Unfortunately, the depression came back. I couldnt stand being distant from family n friends, even w the success i was having w trading. I stopped trading , bills caught up, had to move to a place i didnt like, and left my job. I was about to lose my car. I was always lookin out the window to see if it was gettin repossessed, but then my exact prayer was answered. W the help of an old friend, i pulled myself out of that nightmare.
Currently, im just taking a week or 2 to clean up as much as possible. I have gigs already setup as far as dj'ing goes. I dont wanna bore yall w the details on that, but just know music is a big part of me. Im gonna use my skills to pay the bills. Not only pay my bills so i dont have to ever return to work, but also use those funds to fuel my brokerage accts. This will allow me to continuously make big trading plays, and grow my money exponentially.
I know this is an unconventional and out of the box way of making a living, but its right for me. I was at the point where i was thinking of how good it would feel to make the suffering come to an end. Although i would never be able to take it that far, the thoughts naturally would come to mind, as i was going through these depressions. I stayed positive, kept praying, and now i know my way out. Not only to live a bearable life, but to live an even greater life that i always wanted. I got really good w turntables back in the day, and now that time i spent practicing is the start to my future.
Theres always a way, if u need to find a job that offers working at home, than do it. If u need to be as healthy as can be so u can manage to get up everyday n go to ur new employee orientation, do it. If that is needed just so u can pay ur bills, while u come up w a diff plan, than thats wut it has to be. Thats just 1 option. It was hard each day waking up n getring myself to go in office, but i survived long enough to reach my goal of workin from home. Get into that mentality, but also come up w a goal that is tailored to u and ur skill set. Having these goals n dreams are what keep me going everyday. If u dont have any hobbies ur good at, then just focus on cleaning up first. When u get there, stay there. This was not only for u justincase, but for anyone that can take anything away from my story.
I will keep you guys updated on my progress w cleaning up, and just for fun, my success w everything else.
I think of candida like a terrorist group that has taken over our gut after we nuked the area with antibiotics/bad diet. We can temporarily force them into hiding and de facto take over the area, but the moment another arms shipment arrives in the form of sugar/dairy/grains, the terrorists come out of hiding and take over large areas again. We need to build up a strong army of good gut flora to fend off future attacks from these terrorists while starving the terrorists at the same time. Probiotics and things like L-glutamine and other proteins are like supplies sent to our allies, while sugar etc. feeds the terrorists. I think stomach gurgling and other noises may be the result of clashes between these forces :D
Also, feel free to share any stories, positive/negative.