aggrivated

[mjean15]

Im a little aggrivated right now and this is in no way meant to offend anyone or cause anyone thst is struggling upset....but i.honestly dont know what some ppl think. Like some ppl truley think rhat everything is going good.as long as they arent activley using...IF YOU DONT DO THE WORK TO CHANGE YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS AND BEHAVIOR THEN EVENTUALLY YOU WILL GO BACK TO USING!!!! Like are some ppl that naieve?!?! Or their egos or pride is so big that they think they can do it there way?! Its just aggrivating and being an addict myself in recovery w a.cpl years under my belt i get it i was like that myself snd it never worked.and i try to be there.for ppl and help them but its so.******* aggrivating sometimes!!!!

[gnarly_1]

Hi....well im not affend by your post and sometimes I feel that way but after being on this forum since sept of 09 has tough me is patents and you get more bee's with honey the vinegar.... in order to help those lost you need compassion and understanding...remember where you came from... there was a time that I was scared and lost and didnt know the way   as addicts we are always looking for a softer ezer way out   we also want it and want it now....there is a time for gentilness and a time to be firm and a thin line between them  we lead by example and with time we like you have seen first hand what works and what dosent   this is a ''we'' progam not a ''i'' progam  so many try to go it alone and often get frustated or wind up going back out there...we often say  the addict in your head is alive and well long after the pills stop...you need to treat the addict in order to recover  we have learned from experience what works and what dosent...aftercare is a critic part of recovery  if was as simple as quitting the pills and detoxing for a week this forum would not be here  it takes consoling 12 step progams  and a progam of recovery to live in recovery  I have tryed most and the N/A progam has worked the best for me...it is not for everybody and that is ok  ...personly I fell you are selling yourself short for all the benafits of N/A it is more then just a meeting  it is a new way to live with new friends and a support network  it also gives you clean things to do  my wife and I go to the dances every friday night at a N/A sponserd dance and have a blast  we go river tubing twice a year  we go to barba/Qs and camping all with clean friends  this is something a conslor cant do for you belive me I tryed...  most of us did not know how to stay clean or what to do with our selfs once clean....I am often asked what do I need to change in order to recover???  my answer...only one thing...EVERYTHING... you need to change playgrounds playmates and make time for meetings  for me it is 3 to 4 meetings a week I have a service commitment every other thursday night and speak when im asked to all I know is I have tryed most forms of aftercare and the N/A progam has giving me a very fofilling life thats why I recamend it to all who go threw this journey ...I often pray b/4 I come on here   if I can just touch one person  it is worth all the time I spend here reading and posting  today my recovery is solid all I can do is share what works for me........Gnarly

[dominosarah]

I was one of those people that thought once i put the drugs down all my troubles would be over.  I found out very quickly that wasnt the case.  I started listening to the ones who have gone before me. I educated myself on addiction and when i did that the doors opened up.  When the pink cloud left everything got real.  Most of us think we can do this on our own and we dont realize that doing it our way got us here in the first place.  Each one of us go thru this until we finally get it.  I do understand your aggravation as most of us experience it from time to time.  We all want everyone to see the light and recover,  I have to work on my patience during these times.

[spider6]

Agree, Robin. Peace.

[NeverAgain127]

I agree with you, pillguy.   I can't waste energy taking other people's inventories.     Addiction is a selfish disease, and so is recovery.  It has to be.

I'm not offended by the post, but I don't agree with or share the main sentiment.    Everyone you meet is fighting their own personal battles, and I try to practice acceptance and compassion.  

"Live and Let Live" is one of my favorite AA sayings.  Not everyone is going to "get it."  Some people's rock bottom is death, and it's so, so so hard to just realize that.  

We can't control anyone, or what they do.   And I'm careful with negative emotions, because our addictions are never gone..they are always waiting...for me, things like frustration and anger are triggers to want to escape my mental state.

One old timer in AA once told me that "Expectations are just pre-meditated resentments"   Powerful stuff..food for thought...

Peace everyone. -R

[pillguy]

Please also accept my apologies if my post offends.  We are all different.  This site and others try to offer ideas to help people but addiction treatment is and evolving process.  I predict that opiate treatment in the future will address the brains reward center, that area that makes us want to relapse after so much hard work.  For now all we have is encouragement and support for those who take on the battle.

Have compassion for those hurting.  They don't need criticism they've had plenty of that already.  I understand its frustrating, when you see the damage, but compassion and encouragement will help more than criticism.

My wife is a therapist.  I test with her all day.  We like to stay in touch.  This morning, she said "oh no.  Suicide attempt.  Failed"  It was a young man who had 90 days clean time.  He fell off the wagon.  He must have felt like he had let everyone down, including himself.  He decided the only way out was to shoot himself.

We can do better than making people feel like suicide is the only choice.

[acesmom]

Thanks for your honesty. I am once again starting this taper process. I did it last year but my relationship with my husband fell to pieced bc I was an emotional wreck  and snapped at his every word.  I was on 45 mg or 40 mg of hydro aday. I'm am down to 15 in a week. I need to taper I don't think I can cold turkey any help advice is greatly appreciated

[motye51]

I'm not offended at all.....in fact, quite the opposite.
If there's one thing that I've learned since getting clean in Jan, 2014, it's that drugs weren't my problem.....I was my problem.  Addiction (to just about anything) was my problem. N/A taught me that....working steps taught me that....getting a sponser taught me that!  Removing the dope was just the beginning of a long journey that I chose to start to learn who I am. To also teach me how to live in the real world.  This forum is great>>>>and it helped me tremendously but this isn"t the real world> JUST LIKE WE DON"T LIVE IN A MEETING>I TOTALLY AGREED WITH YOUR POST!

[Frogger76]

I feel ya!  I joined this site back in September 2014.  At that time I had around 5 years or so clean time.  What prompted that was a few months earlier, my husband had some dental work done, one day while he was at work, I sat there for an hour staring at that bottle of painkillers sitting on the bar, I was tempted like you wouldn't believe, I didn't take any, from that day on he carried them with him at all times. So I got on here and asked for help, the only suggestion, and the best, was aftercare. I must admit, stupid as this may sound, I had no idea what aftercare was. It's given me the tools I needed to help aid in my recovery.  Sorry for the rambling, but aftercare is so vital, I'm so happy every time it see it being 'pushed' around here. Take care all!!!

[details_to_a_T]

I'm about as green and new at this "nightmare" as the next person is.....but I know that I can't live a life on drugs. I don't have an after care plan yet, a sponsor, a meeting or support group to go off to daily, weekly, etc.  

BUT I DO KNOW THIS.......I'M GOING TO DO THE WORK AND CONQUER THIS F * * K-ING MONSTER.

I suppose in some ways I'm one of those ppl....at least I was until I figured out that the only way for me to get off this jacked up , sick , twisted coaster was to stop making excuses and get off these pills -- lest lose everything!

I watched countless you tube videos, read miles and miles of posted forum threads on countless sites to prepare myself.......and in the end.....I had to let go and jump into HELL!

Offended by your post, certainly not! Inspired - YES ! Because your post isn't a joke.  And if that keeps me from taking another pill again...then the two minutes I spent reading it and the 15 minutes I spent on this comment is worth every second.

The biggest joke about addiction IMO are the dozens, hundreds, probably thousands of you tube videos that stupid people make to try to "help" others --- when they can't even help,themselves!

I like this community and I thank you for venting because it helps people like me realize just how serious of a situation I got myself into.

G'night,

-T

[jifmoc]

I 1000% agree w/ you. And it does get really frustrating to watch but like Ms. Krissy says we are totally powerless over others.

[Krissy_123]

I do agree with you. I'm also in the program. But this "aggravation" you say you are feeling is pointless. All we can do is be there for these ppl when they need us. Everyone will have their own beliefs,that's just the way life goes.