What recovery care do you get ?

[avisg]

I think it's very important that we really impress the need for recovery care .Whether it be aa/na a different meeting or an addiction therapist a Church pastor .We all need recovery care.Plz share your recovery care ..The forum is great but it is not recovery care .Without care most members will relapse so plz take this seriously.

[vicki595]

Avis~I did tell my neurologist in November. It was actually pretty comical. I said I took all these pills and felt like this blah blah and  he said"it's not possible" "Your lab work is perfect,CT scan normal".  I said I knew I took them and that was the cause of my feeling so terrible and wanted help and we sort of argued about it. So I gave up and let him think what he wanted. I did not ask for a prescription either. I was there for help.
So,I stopped(tapered)on my own,at home. I have not spoken to my medical doctor since November,until yesterday when I called her.
I don't know very much about the daily thing either.We'll speak about it tomorrow but  it's through the hospital.    And yes,it's most important to tell all concerned but I didn't tell everyone.Now the world knows and I'm ready to see my picture on CNN...
Vicki

[avisg]

vicki I thought you had told your neurologist about this in the beginning ,most important thing is everybody that needs to now knows. what is this outpatient program like .I have never heard about a daily thing .I would love to know maybe its something more people could become involved with plz share

[vicki595]

Thanks James ~Sara and Pharma~ xo

[stilltrying1965]

Vicki plz dont beat yourself up coz you relapsed. We have all done it, but you came back addmited you relapsed that was like Pharma said very brave of you. Vicki you also give great advise on this forum, What im trying to say is this forum needs ya. So 3 days is great just keep working it do what you think is right for you. I also no what you mean by going to meetings and the scum of this earth are there praying on the ppl who are just starting there recovery. I think most places were ppl are trying to quit drugs is a breeding ground for dealers. I said it in my post to this question. So Vicki you do whats right for Vicki and im sure everything will be fine 3 days is an awesome start Vicki. Good luck my friend ,,,,,,James  

[vicki595]

That's right...my husband knew but no one else.  He's a doctor. He believed we could handle this together and we did and I did.  The problem,and this is important,is that I stopped going to meetings. It became difficult there where the meetings were held. There were folks hanging around outside trying to "sell things".I stopped feeling safe so I stopped going. I thought I was okay and I truly wasn't.  So...lesson learned.This was not a major slip but a slip none the less. I could even ignore it and forgive myself but I have to be honest here. It's important to me,personally.   I'm pretty disgusted right now but I'm working on the fix immediately.   I appreciate your support and kind words immensely.
Thanks~V.

[dominosarah]

V.......the truth will set you free.........sara

[pharma9]

You are super brave to come back and admit to a defeat.
You are even more brave to start again and not be defeated by your addiction.
My thoughts and prayers go out to you in your battle.

[vicki595]

Sara~  Everything will be different because everyone knows...I told everyone and I'll be going to an out patient facility everyday. Like a job. Because it is...
V.

[dominosarah]

What are you going to do differently this time?  You cant do this alone......sara

[vicki595]

Well...what I've been doing hasn't been enough. I relapsed this past weekend,feel horrible,and have an appt. with my doctor on thursday. I will change my tracker. I am 3 days clean...again.
Vicki

[tomskat]

Hear hear Gizzy!You alwyas knpow what's on my mind,lol!!Exactly-if you want it bad enough you will fight and nevber let your guard down.Aftercare for me started with this site to help get me clean,made it 333 days then relapsed.Within that time I was doing NA.Back clean again and "lurkng" on here,responding to others .That seems to help me stay clean-not wanting to w/d again for the 100th time though either,lol.Seriously,I think aftercare is a must,as Worried stated and as Gizzy said it still doesn't ensure absolute sobriety.So,NEVER LET YOUR GUARD DOWN!!!!....Anne

[dominosarah]

Live one day at a time as we dont know what tomorrow will bring........sara

[gizzy32]

Going back to N/A now and if that don't work, than I will find something else. Anything to stay clean. Ya know what? Aftercare does not ensure that we will stay clean 100%,  but it gives us such a better chance, a lot better chance. All I used to do was relapse, it became normal to me and I used to be so proud of myself in the past when i made it a few days clean, lol. If you want sobriety bad enough, THERE ARE NO EXCUSES. I had them all, but I woke up. Fight for what you believe in and believe in yourself first and foremost. I can't do this alone.

[avisg]

good yes let me know what they say that way we can let other know about it as well .I hope it will work for u if I can help out any other way let me now ..

[krissy30]

I looked it up and got a number.  I will call tomorrow and let you know what they pay for.  Thanks again so much for caring so much!  Crystal

[krissy30]

Thank you sooo much...I will definitely check it out.  I really need something!  My brain chemistry is just all screwy now!  I really did a number on myself.  Every time I hear of a younger person getting involved in these drugs...it breaks my heart b/c they will most def ruin any chances of a healthy happy life....

[avisg]

krissy ok go to this link and put suboxone in it will give you are the info .ok
http://www.rxassist.org/patients/default.cfm

[avisg]

I will see what I can find BTW i live in sc as well.I think it would really help you

[krissy30]

I tried about 2 weeks ago...it was outrageous...First let me start...I have no insurance or job right now I live in SC and it is not very easy to get help from the state w/o having children...which thank God I was smart enough not to have....(I can barely take care of myself)  I called a couple sub docs and they wanted to do physicals and tests before they would even prescribe subs...Which is crazy!!!  I was healthy enuff to do heroin for 12 or so years w/o ever over dosing, but I have to be healthy to get clean (take sub)..
Anyway, it added up to about $600 for the doctor alone not to mention the price of even a generic at a pharmacy....But avis said she was going to try to find some info for me, so hopefully that will be very helpful....It's just rediculous that these docs take an oath to help people than try to get over on addicts who have lost everything and only have their life left and they don't want to save lives unless they get a butt load of money for....Sorry life has left me very cynical  LOL

FYI  This is interesting...A few months ago I had a tooth that was infected and decaying out of my mouth...it was pretty bad!!!  I went to the ER (no ins. no money) and spent 2 1/2 hours waiting, finally a doc came in looked at it, wrote script for antibiotics and a script for vicodin (which I don't even feel) and gave me a perc while I was there....I was with him for not even 5 mins...I got the bill.....$1120....For nothing just a script for medicine....They don't pull teeth in the ER....Luckily I found a pretty cheap clinic, but now I have a collection agency on me for the hospital bill....Well, they can get in line with the rest!  LOL  My point is that doctors take advantage of our situations...it's not right and almost impossible to get any real help w/o money.

[GA Guy]

Suboxone therapy has become more and more affordable since a generic drug has been released. You may want to try and find a competent Sub doctor and check prices again.

[avisg]

Krissy you are not a bummer And I hear how much you are suffering suboxone does have a program that for some they will pay for your meds if you qualify If you want any info on it let me know I will find it .Have you tried any na or aa meetings?It would give you others in your area that can relate to what you are going threw .you have come along way ..You should be proud of yourself there is a reason you  are here and it might just be to help others that have been where you are ...let me know if you want that info

[krissy30]

I think the bottom line is this:  you will not quit until you want to.  I personally do not want the life I lived while on drugs.. And I was rock bottom.....I was pretty much homeless and pretty much had a life not an existence.  I do not want that life anymore, but I do not want a life w/o opiates.  I've heard people say there is no such thing as "can't".  But, i will tell you this....I am not on Heroin anymore....I moved out of the state....But, I cannot function w/o opiates....Since I do not want that Heroin existence (b/c it's really not a life) anymore, I don't even want to know where to get it....But, since I'd rather die than live w/o opiates...I do take oxy about 40 -50 mgs/day.....It's not nearly as much compared to the $200 or more Heroin habit I had...It's enough so that I do not feel like killing myself....Some of us have gone way beyond addict or even junkie....Even when I have been w/o opiates for 6 months or more it's like my brain doesn't function properly and after awhile I get so tired of wanting to go to sleep and not wake up....Please don't get me wrong I do not wish to kill my self...But, I do ask God why he keeps me alive....I am not an asset to society and I cannot even enjoy food, my cat, TV anything unless I have my opiates...I am totally broken....But, since I was an addict for so long just as many others...I am left with nothing....no job, no money...nothing to call my own...No driver's license....bills coming out of my ears...not to mention fines and warrants of arrest.....I guess I digress, my point is that an addict cannot be forced to get clean, it's something they have to want, really want!  They can't do it for mom or dad or daughter or son has to be them....I would love to get aftercare...personally I think I should really be on suboxone, but since these doctors take advantage of addicts and charge and arm and a leg I am unable to do that....

I am sorry, I don't mean to be a bummer, but I am really frustrated.  All I know is that my brain and body don't function properly any longer and since I lost everything I have (more than once) I have nothing left to give so these doctors will not help me.

[worried878]

Aftercare seems like a must for most..for long term recovery...getting clean is the easy part for most of us who have managed to get some clean time behind us..the week/less or more for some depending on DOC, time of use, and daily dose/ of physical wd is so short in comparison to a lifetime of staying clean.  
Once an addict..guess we r always an addict..speaking of mentally addicted folks....if u think it is behind u..then just wait til ur life goes to poo poo or major losses stressors occur..that addict inside will wake up again and tell u to escape into ur old DOC again...like u used to do...but we know it never worked...but still the chances of listening to the addict in us when u feel the need for ur old unhealthy coping mechanism/escape/..vs using the new healthty ones,,can happen in a heartbeat if u r not doing the work u need to do on urself
I went to NA for a few months..swapped around..not alot of hcoices in NA here...AA is everywhere and felt at home there...many are cross addicted....I go at least twice a week now..but i times of weakness u may see me there everynight..I get my strength for it..and I do not feel so alone  (:

[stilltrying1965]

I go to see my councilor once a week. Iv also tried aa na meetings that were not for me. My doctor has just started the tuesday clinic. Wich is basicaly for all addicts that are prescribed ther drugs there its the same as an aa or na meeting, we have to go to the tuesday clinic. But i dont like it much as after the meeting there are old friends i know who still offer drugs. Some have said to me that they only attend so the doctor does not stop there prescriptions.But one good thing is i have to stay very strong to abstain from buying anything thats on offer as i said i have to go so i can keep getting my diazipan. It would probibly be a great meeting but for the A ss holes who use it as a selling place all the addicts in the same place at the same time Some ppl trying to stay clean dont stand a chance.Works for some ppl i suppose though,,,,,,,,,,,,,,James  GREAT POST Avis