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need to help a friend off smack, subbies?
hope someone out there can help. I have recently fallen for a girl who I have found out has a serious heroin addiction. she predominantly smokes it but has occasionally injected. she really wants to get clean & I believe her as I can see the person behind the drug. she has a son who was taken away from her & needs to be clean to stand any chance of being involved in his life. this is her main motivation, another reason I know she means it.
She has asked if I can get her subbies to help her get off & I really want to help but need some advice.
should it be subutex or soboxone to start, will these actually help & how can I get them in the uk.
she doesn't want to go to the Dr's as this will admit to the authorities she is still using and put pay to any hope she has of seeing her son.
please help it's killing me seeing her hurting herself so bad every day & I know she is so much better than what she does.
thanks in advance
She has asked if I can get her subbies to help her get off & I really want to help but need some advice.
should it be subutex or soboxone to start, will these actually help & how can I get them in the uk.
she doesn't want to go to the Dr's as this will admit to the authorities she is still using and put pay to any hope she has of seeing her son.
please help it's killing me seeing her hurting herself so bad every day & I know she is so much better than what she does.
thanks in advance
Gaz...you ramble as much as you need to, that's why we're here :)
I don't understand...doc wants to give subs on a daily basis in the beginning ?
If that's the case. ...it'll only be temporary until she proves herself.
My son was a severe iv heroin addict. He tried subs many times on his own, each time relapsing to a worse than before spot, trying to do it with street subs.
His final time was done through a doctor, with one on one counsel. He learned how to cope with pain/life in a different way.... without drugs.
Took near a year for him with an extremely slow wean.
he's just over 3 years clean, still goes to self help meetings when he feels vulnerable.
I've watched and lived many years of his addiction with him...this approach saved his life, trying to do it on his own, nearly killed him.
BTW...love CAN move mountains, she's a lucky girl
Definitely keep us updated !! :)
I don't understand...doc wants to give subs on a daily basis in the beginning ?
If that's the case. ...it'll only be temporary until she proves herself.
My son was a severe iv heroin addict. He tried subs many times on his own, each time relapsing to a worse than before spot, trying to do it with street subs.
His final time was done through a doctor, with one on one counsel. He learned how to cope with pain/life in a different way.... without drugs.
Took near a year for him with an extremely slow wean.
he's just over 3 years clean, still goes to self help meetings when he feels vulnerable.
I've watched and lived many years of his addiction with him...this approach saved his life, trying to do it on his own, nearly killed him.
BTW...love CAN move mountains, she's a lucky girl
Definitely keep us updated !! :)
Gaz- this girl, if she is serious, will find her own way to subs the right way. You have to stay out of this or you are in for a world of heartache. We see it on here all the time. She is asking you to do something underhanded: NOT a good sign. Sorry, my friend.
I would really really think hard about getting involved w/ an active H user who isn't getting clean. Just because you can "see the real person" behind her using doesn't mean anything substantial. Honestly, that's what most folks say when they're at their wit's end w/ an active addict. This isn't your daughter, mother, father or wife. It's a girl you've been dating. Please do some serious thinking.
I would really really think hard about getting involved w/ an active H user who isn't getting clean. Just because you can "see the real person" behind her using doesn't mean anything substantial. Honestly, that's what most folks say when they're at their wit's end w/ an active addict. This isn't your daughter, mother, father or wife. It's a girl you've been dating. Please do some serious thinking.
P.S- if love was all we needed to get people clean, there would be no addicts. Love is detaching so that you keep your sanity, while letting the addict do the work they are supposed to do. She will never get clean if she is being enabled. Good luck to you:)
Hi
Taking subs is the first route to wanting to be clean. Then therapy meetings etc THEN you taper off the subs. Iv done it. It can work and the reason I am here alive and clean is because my parents supported me. So with regards to the above poster - I disagree. It obviously depends on different people but I was strongly against stopping my drug of choice (opiates) but look at me now. And that's what LOVE can do. So if you love this girl and you know her intentions are to be with her son - help her. Cause she is going to need it. And after a long effort and patience and torture (it's not easy getting off subs either) you can get clean.
P.s - I am not 100% sure that sub doctors put that you are on subs on your actual medical record. Mine didn't and it was a charitable clinic where the sub doc was a retired gp.
Anyway hope that helps - good luck to you and her especially :)
Taking subs is the first route to wanting to be clean. Then therapy meetings etc THEN you taper off the subs. Iv done it. It can work and the reason I am here alive and clean is because my parents supported me. So with regards to the above poster - I disagree. It obviously depends on different people but I was strongly against stopping my drug of choice (opiates) but look at me now. And that's what LOVE can do. So if you love this girl and you know her intentions are to be with her son - help her. Cause she is going to need it. And after a long effort and patience and torture (it's not easy getting off subs either) you can get clean.
P.s - I am not 100% sure that sub doctors put that you are on subs on your actual medical record. Mine didn't and it was a charitable clinic where the sub doc was a retired gp.
Anyway hope that helps - good luck to you and her especially :)
thanks to all of you for your comments and support, it's helping sooo much.
yes love is blind and we do need more than just that but if it's all we have what choice do we have.
if I can make any difference, for the good, to her life at least I will know I have done what I could. I can't walk away from someone I care for knowing I could of tried, just wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I did.
any one in the uk know how much residential rehab costs & how effective it is??
yes love is blind and we do need more than just that but if it's all we have what choice do we have.
if I can make any difference, for the good, to her life at least I will know I have done what I could. I can't walk away from someone I care for knowing I could of tried, just wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I did.
any one in the uk know how much residential rehab costs & how effective it is??
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