quick question

[wherestheresetbutton]

I'm currently 48 hours Into my detox.  So far its been pretty mild (ill get into specifics later) but after a 5-6 month relapse how long should I expect the "rebound" pain to last?  I kno typically the worst is over after 72 hours, but this lower back pain is driving me crazy.  I have no real back problems (aside from poor sitting posture) and I took the pills recreationally. Any input will help. And ill come back with all the details when I feel I can actually move a bit.

Thanks for taking time to read/answer me.

[reallyneedhelp76]

I read a doctor online saying that rebound pain can be quite intense but it's because the body will react in a way that will percieve pain more.  From what people have said here, the pain lasts for a couple days like up to 6 or 7.  ALot of people say taking a hot bath/shower will help alot!  I wish you the best of luck, your doing great, I'm only on day 1 and it stinks.

[wherestheresetbutton]

Thanks for your response :)  I tried the hot bath/shower/sauna yesterday but it seemed to just make all of the cold sweats and overall jitteryness worse.  So I'm kinda reluctant to try again.  Been taking 800mg of ibuprophen regularly, but it seems to have no effect.  

In comparison to typical withdrawal symptoms, sweats, chills, headaches.  The only real problem I've had so far is this unbearable back pain and mild rls, which is treated for a short time by hylands leg cramps with quinine(sp?).  I might try some yoga here in a bit if I can muster some energy to get up, as yoga helped me immensly last time I went through detox.

[wherestheresetbutton]

Also I've been on a heating pad steady for the last 48 hours, from time to time pulling out a cheapo "shiatsu massager". And a few back rubs from my awesomly supportive girlfriend.  At the moment funds are too low to buy anything otc to help, any other home remidies that I could try?

Thanks again,
S.

[wherestheresetbutton]

Ugh rls is the WORST!  Just dozed off to be awoken by legs that feel like they need to run a mile...how much melatonin Is ok to use? I got 3mg pills, I only used one about 1h 30 min ago, would another help this late?  Too bad I dont have any bananas around, I'd eat ten if it would help lol.

[gnarly_1]

HI  theres  a lot of 24hr walmarts ans walgreens open ....i would go pick up some highlands restful legs,,,,,it is hopathic you can take 2 or 3 every hr and it should help wityh the legs .....also if you take a blanket and rape it tighly around your legs...kinda like swaddling a baby it often helps also other then that a good hot soak will brring some releaf hang in there it will pass but untill it does it will drive youy nuts good luck and God bless......Gnarly

[wherestheresetbutton]

Thanks for the response so late gnarly, still stuck awake... I have hyla ds restful legs, and hylands leg cramps with quinine. Neither has helped so far, but what can I doo besides keeping positive and keep trying. Hopefully some rest is on the way :/

[readytohavemyLIFEback]

Hope your pain is better and you got some rest.  Hang in there. You and I are just about in the same time frame.  I'm on day 3 and feeling alittle restless.  Hopefully by tomorrow the worse will be over.  Good Luck!

[wherestheresetbutton]

Well, this morning my pain seems to have subsided.  But man oh man where the RLS in control last night.  Got almost no sleep, but I'm off work till satarday so if I have a chance during the day I'm gonna nap ny heart out.   Thanks for checkin in on me :) ill be back to post more later.

S.

[sudie58]

i am glad you are hanging in there, eat some bananas, sounds daft but can help resstless legs, its the potassium in them, also drink tonic water, best wishes.

[readytohavemyLIFEback]

I really think the bananas work because I do not have RLS. I think the L-Tyrosine(amino acid) and vitamins are helping as well.

@Wherestherestbutton maybe it will help to know that you are not alone.  As I said earlier we are into this for about the same amount of hours. (hope that makes since, brain not really working)  It helps me to know that others are in the same boat.  Hopefully we are at least half way there.

[constantbeauty]

Stay strong, you're getting your life back!

I'm really glad to hear that you're able to be off from work until Saturday. This will give you time to be alone, get things together and adapt to the changes that you're about to embark on. There are a lot of members here that are proud of you, myself included.

Like the above poster mentioned, bananas really help with RLS if the other stuff you've tried isn't helping. Just know that you're still in the begining process of all of this, so it might take a few days. It's normal to feel the way you are right now -- WD is always different from one person to the next, but in the end, they all stink to no end! You're doing good so far, so keep your head up about all of this and post, post, post!

[wherestheresetbutton]

After all the response I've recievied, it really does do wonders to my seld esteem, and my drive to push through this.  Thank you all for your kind words of encouragement. A little background on me, I'm a 24 year old male,  Ive been an addict since 2009.  It all started with taking a few pills here and there (maybe once a month) for fun.  Later on I did strain my back working an odd job, which I never started self medicating.  The real fun began when I discovered MMORPGs(online games like world of Warcraft).  I would spend endless hors hunched over a computer playing these games, And we all know how badly poor posture can affect us.  Being I havent had health insurance since I lived at home(moved out at 17), I would ask those older and wiser than me what they thought it could be, almost every single response was the same...kidney stones.. Seriously? Kidney stones at 19? At that point.I began getting maybe 5 7.5/700 for the week when the pain would be bad.  I never really thought anything of it. My intake slowly rose to a 10/500/650 once to twice a day.  At that point I still wasnt abusing the illegal mess I was acquiring from the street.  Around the summer of 2009, my previous boss (RIP ol Ben) and I developed quite the father/son relationship, one that I had truly desired my whole life(both parents are recovering addicts so no love there) well in January 2010 my boss had been diagnosed with stage 4 cancer (so bad they couldn't even attempt to remove it) and within a couple weeks the man closest to me passed away.  After that I just couldn't hold it together anymore.  I found the more pills I took the less the loss of the closest father figure I'd ever had hurt me.  So from that point I went from 1 10mg loricet a day slowly up to around 15 a day.  If it wasn't for my absolutley amazing girlfriend I probably never would have noticed how bad I really was.  So I decided it was time, and that is when I originally found medhelp, I scoured this site, I looked up waterer techniques I could find, and decided tapering was what I would do.  So with the careful watch of my girlfriend I was able to drop from 15+ a day slowly down to a half a pill in the morning.  After two days on the 1/2 pill, I said F this, I'm done!! Flushed that last half and was sober for 6 months.  And to be com

[wherestheresetbutton]

Oops posted that too soon.. Typing on my iPod. But to be completely honest, the amount I used during my relapse has clouded my mind, I can't remember much of the last 6 months, just that at the end I was taking almost 20 or more a day just to feel normal.  This time, I hid this from my girlfriend, I was so ashamed, I had done so well and now feel like I've thrown it all not only down the drain, that she will never be able to trust me again. My whole relapse from her,she actually  had to find out by me leaving a pill on the counter when I left for work, which actually turned out to be a godsend.  After some time she forgave me, and as long as I stick to my guns, she will stay by my side every step of the way. We have been together for 6 years now, and I cannot let this happen again, as I know in my heart, that she is my true soulmate, and she deserves better than an addict.  Which is why this HAS TO BE THE LAST TIME.  I have so much to lose, I never really have hit a "rock bottom". I just tend to think about my future, and if I don't stop this before it gets too late, I'll end up a junkie just like my parents were at my age.

But, it's day three, just past 60 hours, aside from sleeping like absolute crap last night I feel much better today.  K rant over. Comments?

[NoOC123]

That's not a rant! Thank you for telling everyone that. It's heartbreaking really to see all the pain and loss people have suffered through, and the way addiction comes through their lives and tears things to shreds. You should feel fortunate to have such a wonderful girlfriend, and I can just tell you absolutely deserve someone like her. I will say you've got to want to get off these pills for yourself. OF course it helps to have other motivating sources but deep down you have to really want it for yourself. I understand that feeling of like you haven't really "hit a bottom" but don't think of it in terms of that, just make yourself a little list or something of all the reasons you want to stop. Whatever they are write them down and keep them in your wallet and re-read them whenever you need. Do it now while the pain of your addiction is fresh in your mind. Because it may help when cravings hit. Also, it is good to do motivate yourself to stop for the reason of salvaging your future but don't think too far forward and don't put to much pressure on yourself. Just think about today. I know thats cliche, but it's true. Thinking about the future can get you down on yourself and cause you to beat yourself up and what not for all the time you "wasted" as a "addict" (I dont think theres such a thing because every situation you can learn from) but I do know how we can get in our heads when we're beating ourselves up. Plus it can add additional worries and stress.

So, basically just worry about today. You're sober, you're moving farther away from drugs and closer to feeling better. You didn't have to lie to anyone today. You didn't have to steal anything or sneak around your girlfriend or feel the guilt of knowing you are high with her. You can be honest today, and just appreciate the small things you are accomplishing today. Congrats on three days. DOn't beat yourself up over the relapse, I have relapsed many times and it is so hard to pick yourself back up I know I have beat myself up so bad mentally that I didn't think i'd ever stop using, but I am trying again as well. I know how good sobriety can be, I have experienced it , and you will too. Keep going forward, and maybe check out AA or NA meetings if you felt like it.

[wherestheresetbutton]

Thank you for your post, Its hard to not beat ourselves up right now.  I just read this entire thread to my girlfriend, and she told me the exact same thing, I'm doing great, I'm almost over the physical hump.  I just can't keep the thoughts of my parents out of my head.  I fought so hard goring up to stay away from all drugs/alcohol knowing my families addictive history, but somewhere down the road that all changed.  But I know there is an end to this, although it will be a fight for the rest of my life, at least I'm giving myself a chance at life by getting this behind me before a decade has passed and I've wondered where it all went.  This website is Amazing, you guys lift my spirits so much.  Kinda sad how I've always been the tough guy that NEVER cries, ever,  that's almost all I've been doing the last three days.  Gonna get out of the house for a bit, grab some food, and try to encourage my girlfriend to do her best as she has a major final exam tomorrow.
I'll post back in a little while.
Thank you, all of you
S.

[NoOC123]

Don't beat yourself up for becoming addicted like your parents. This disease discriminates against nobody. It affects every kind of person, and when you have addiction in your family, in your genes, it only makes it that much more possible that you will become addicted. I don't know the story of your parents, (if they're still using, if they're in recovery, etc.) but don't use this to pull you down. Use it to motivate you. Going through something like this and making it through gives you such a bigger perspective on the world, it allows you much deeper compassion when viewing others. It makes you stronger, better person. If you can put the work in and get through this, then addiction is not something to be ashamed of. It is something you can be proud of. Everyone in life has problems, whether it be financial, mental, physical, health, other forms of addiction, anger, loss, whatever it is, everyone's got something to face. The ones that own up and face it and come through the other side should be admired and proud of thtemselves. In our case, it is addiction. You can get past this, don't give up.

[wherestheresetbutton]

I always try to use my parents situation to help me out, they are both in recovery, my dad from alcohol/heroin, and my mom alcohol/crystal meth.  My dad has a long time of sobriety under his belt, something like 18 years since his last relapse.  But to this day I still harbor ill feelings against both of them for not being there for me growing up. At age 6 they deserted me, for their drugs, and didn't even attempt to contact me until I was 13, and until high school I used that to keep me away from all the bad influences kids are exposed to.  But the freedom of highschool changed all that.  Regardless of what HAS happened, this is my life, and I need to man up so when I have kids I can give them the life they deserve.  I can, will, and know I will beat this. I'm three days in, the nasty feelings have mostly left me, and the only cravings I've had are cravings to destroy the facilities that make these highly addictive drugs, that destroy lives.

Time to eat, post later
Stayin possitive :)

[wherestheresetbutton]

Well, after getting some food in my stomach, helping a neighboor with a network problem, I got really sleepy.  Picked up some bananas on my way home and ate two once I got home.  Now, why does it seem like my body doesn't want me to rest?  I was dozing off, and theb BAM, legs start freakin out. After 2 hours of sleep last night i'd figure I could get at least an hour nap in...I litterally have almost no symptoms, sweats, chills, nausea, headache...jut these horrible RLS.  I almost feel as though I would rather the other symptoms.  What should I do? I'm so exhausted, I just want some rest and my irritability is interfering with my girlfriends studying, and this test is the most important of her college career so far.  I would say that after almost 3 days (66 3/4 hours) this is my first real freak out.  I feel my GF is going to suffer because she I worrying about me....when she needs to stay focused on herself.


Sigh...what should I do?
S.

[finann]

Have you tried tylenol pm? It used to help me when I would w/d. Now I take flexeril it's a non narcotic muscle relaxer. I'm 6hrs in and going to quit for good this time. I too have a lot to lose. Good luck!

[wherestheresetbutton]

Ya, I've tried all the otc sleep aids.  Most just contain bebedryl and for me that makes it worse.  Just got up and went to the grocery store, got some epsom salt.  The thing is, ever since I was little I have been such a baby about hot water lol. How embarrasing! But its true. Besides my little flip out earlier I'm doin great now, just gave up on sleep for now, it will come when it comes.  I'm in houston, and I'm sitting outside watching our first "rain" in like 2 months, attempting to enjoy life without opiates.  2 1/2 hours away from 72 hours!!!  Quite proud of myself as I've not only not had any cravings,  but the longer I feel crappy the more I hate those evil little pills.  Now, I'm actually in a "hot" epsom salt bath.

Thank again everyone, all encouragement is always welcome. :)

[criminy1]

Sleep was my worst part and I gave up on it too. Actually, giving into the fact that sleep was a no go helped me deal with it better. Less frustration.

[TryingItAgain]

you are doing awesome! i am 32 and been through it before.  if you can find it at a health food store try L5HT.  It is the amino acid found in turkey meat, potatoes and other natural wonders that makes you sleepy.  It works pretty well. one keeps you calm, two helps to sleep.  KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT!!!

[like_mom]

Wherestheresetbutton. I'm proud of you. As a mother of 3, your courage insides me. I have children from 4 to 19 in age. They inspire me daily and are the reason to kick this habit! I too had addict parents and my mother lost her life to her vicodin addiction Xmas day 2007. You'd think I'd know better. But here I am fighting a battle I will win! Thanks for your posts. Thank you all!!! Everything from this site helps tremendously!

[like_mom]

Darn autocorrect!