withdrawl from codeine and pain killers

[frank793]

Is not pain the result of desiire? Caffine and cigerettes- do they not relieve pain? I drink espresso and smoke a cuigerette when I wake  in pain of withdrawls and most Gloriously enjoy the affect not effect of caffine but not nicotine, yet I permitt myself the pleasure of the caffine and nicotine for now because I understand that the True relief of pain takes time and ;thus, I allow myself the permission to indulge in these intoxicants -for now; nicotine,,codine,pain kilklers or any other such substances are a disgrace to the human body,mind, and Soul are not|||||||||||||? The fifth precept of Buddhism states that, " I will exercise proper care of my mind and body, I will not be gluttononus nor abuse intoxicants" does it not? Buddha, Jesus and Job both understood this did they not? Withdrawls  are a ******* ***** are they not? The word **** means a Fecund Union of Carnal Knowledge does it not? Am I or you a ***** because of our parents? Does not religion or Buddhism or philosophy understtand this fact? The answer to the rellief of pain  is to understand as  A E Houseman said in his poem, " Rose" thou art sick, because he understood that plants are infested with the plight of suffering-did he not? He was gay but a Christian was he not? Can not people overcome their suffering if they surrender their Souls to the fact that sufferting is relieved through surrender to something Greater than themselves? Hermann Hesse, Mother Thersa, Ghandi and many others understood this fact did they not?Are not humanns different than any other thing alive since their Knowledge is not of their own mind? Did |Socretes not ssay that , " All I Know Is That I Know Nothing?"

[weaver71]

Hermann Hesse said that the returned traveler sees his home for the first time. Siddhartha left his worldly prince's life to embrace the suffering, only to discover peace. Socratic rhetoric walks us through the knowledge of our lack of understanding. Mother Theresa said, I can tell you about my path, but I'm only a little wire--God is the Power. Ghandi said if he only had to to live by the sermon on the mount, he too would claim Christianity. The truth of things is so simple, not always easy.

Surrender, love, service, kindness, good health....Let go let God. Simple not easy. I sense your suffering from the disillusionment from knowledge. I relate to that state of being, but I am but ashes on my way home. The humility of Socrates, the service of Mother Theresa, and the self-sacrafice of Ghandi are simple paths of progress. Tap into the source by which they are guided and be the empty vessel of the Buddha, and right action follows. First things first. Follow the path of least resistance, and don't let your mind get in the way. The fog will lift, and everyday, a new and better life will follow.

As one taps into the source of Power, one intuitively drops those things that pollute the temple of body, mind, and spirit. Not sure if I read your post right, but these where the things you made me think of. Good luck.

[Free2agoodhome]

never heard of caffeine or nicotine as pain releivers,,,

whats that other stuff about?

plants are infested with the plight of suffering-   ?

not even sure of the point you're trying to make or what help you seek,,,

[otoh]

caffine and ciggarettes only relieve pain if your addicted to them .