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Hey guys it’s me again, so for those of you who had read and responded to my last post, (thank you once again for doing so) I now have Some more information. So my partner got tested yet again to see if he would test positive for herpes and his lab test came back negative For both HSV1 and HSV2. Now if you remember, me and him have been together since like June, then I got tested around July 22 in which I tested positive for HSV2, my index value was a low positive, a 1.58 and they did a supplemental test and it came back positive. I still haven’t had NO symptoms whatsoever. My doctor took forever to get in contact with me for whatever reason, she called me September 17, and informed about my lab test even tho I knew it already by going online and looking at it. I asked her is this a false positive and she said there is no such things as a false positive, this test is 100% reliable. Then I told her that the CDC recommends everyone who has a low positive of a 1.10-3.5 to get a confirmation test, such as a western blot test, since it’s a 50/50 chance it’s a false positive and she just completely ignored what I said and told me, well basically told me I had to suck it up and I have to understand that I have herpes. But once again, no symptoms whatsoever. Then she told me she’s going to prescribe acyclovir, in which I didn’t want. I didn’t even pick up until like, maybe a week ago ? Because the pharmacy wouldn’t stop calling me saying that my medication is available for pick up. But I haven’t even opened the bag, I didn’t even take anything cause I haven’t had any symptoms of having it. My partner got tested yet again last Friday and he got his results earlier today stating he is negative. So my question is, what should I do now ? Should I get retested ? Is this a low positive? Is my doctor right ? Do I have herpes ? Can someone have herpes and not pass it to their partner ? Should I get a western blot test? Thank you for taking the time to read my question again guys!
I had a positive supplemental test this summer that wound up being negative by Western Blot. Your doctor is wrong.
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oh really ? what was your index values ? how was ur experience with that?
She had a 1.95, retested and got a 1.08, but with a positive supplemental test.
You can read her story here - https://www.medhelp.org/posts/Herpes/How-reliable-are-positive-HSV2-supplemental-test-results/show/3056690
Here's another one with a low positive who ended up negative on the WB - https://www.medhelp.org/posts/Herpes/Timing-for-western-blot-test/show/3054778
https://www.medhelp.org/posts/Herpes/False-Positive-Western-Blot-Update/show/2818624
https://www.medhelp.org/posts/Herpes/HSV1-and-HSV2-SPEC-AB--IGG-W-RFX/show/3053216
All tested pos on the IgG, negative on the WB.
Some give more explanation about the process than others.
Hope that helps.
(Let's keep all your questions to this thread, too. It makes it so much easier for me to keep track.)
You can read her story here - https://www.medhelp.org/posts/Herpes/How-reliable-are-positive-HSV2-supplemental-test-results/show/3056690
Here's another one with a low positive who ended up negative on the WB - https://www.medhelp.org/posts/Herpes/Timing-for-western-blot-test/show/3054778
https://www.medhelp.org/posts/Herpes/False-Positive-Western-Blot-Update/show/2818624
https://www.medhelp.org/posts/Herpes/HSV1-and-HSV2-SPEC-AB--IGG-W-RFX/show/3053216
All tested pos on the IgG, negative on the WB.
Some give more explanation about the process than others.
Hope that helps.
(Let's keep all your questions to this thread, too. It makes it so much easier for me to keep track.)
Do you know what causes false positives when it comes to testing for herpes ? My doctor is adamant about me being a 100% for sure herpe positive. But when i tell her about what the CDC recommends, she suggests that this test, i guess since it has the labcorp positive supplemental test, that its the most reliable.
We aren't sure. It's possible that being hsv1+ can cause it, or a protein in your blood can cause it.
The LabCorp supplemental doesn't mean anything. We have people in this forum, and Terri Warren has seen it on her forum, who have tested positive on the supplemental, both with Quest and LabCorp, and are negative on the Western Blot. I believe the supplemental is another IgG, which is pointless. Some will always have a false positive on the IgG.
https://www.labcorp.com/tests/163033/herpes-simplex-virus-hsv-type-2-specific-antibodies-igg-with-reflex-to-supplemental-testing
I'm sorry you're going through this. Can you afford to pay for this yourself, and go through Terri Warren?
https://westoverheights.com/forum/question/igg-results-5/ - Terri Warren has no confidence in the supplemental test. I don't either.
There is even some evidence that those with results over 3.5 and no symptoms can have false positives -
https://westoverheights.com/forum/question/labcorp-false-positive-with-positive-supplemental/
I hope you are able to pursue this, or find some peace with it, or find another doctor. Your doctor sucks. :(
If it helps, you aren't alone. This happens way too often.
The LabCorp supplemental doesn't mean anything. We have people in this forum, and Terri Warren has seen it on her forum, who have tested positive on the supplemental, both with Quest and LabCorp, and are negative on the Western Blot. I believe the supplemental is another IgG, which is pointless. Some will always have a false positive on the IgG.
https://www.labcorp.com/tests/163033/herpes-simplex-virus-hsv-type-2-specific-antibodies-igg-with-reflex-to-supplemental-testing
I'm sorry you're going through this. Can you afford to pay for this yourself, and go through Terri Warren?
https://westoverheights.com/forum/question/igg-results-5/ - Terri Warren has no confidence in the supplemental test. I don't either.
There is even some evidence that those with results over 3.5 and no symptoms can have false positives -
https://westoverheights.com/forum/question/labcorp-false-positive-with-positive-supplemental/
I hope you are able to pursue this, or find some peace with it, or find another doctor. Your doctor sucks. :(
If it helps, you aren't alone. This happens way too often.
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I'm so sorry. Your doctor is wrong.
From the CDC STD Treatment Guidelines, which, if your doctor is testing for, diagnosing and treating STDs, she needs to be following:
https://www.cdc.gov/std/tg2015/herpes.htm
"The most commonly used test, HerpeSelect HSV-2 Elisa might be falsely positive at low index values (1.1–3.5) (334-336)." It's not even 1/4 of the way down the page.
So what do you do now, besides get a new doctor for your sexual health care?
You can get a Western Blot test, but since your doctor is not on board with any other suggestions, you will likely have to self-pay for this, and it's expensive. You can do this with Terri Warren - https://westoverheights.com/getting-a-herpes-western-blot/ That explains the process, and the cost. (Prepare yourself for hundreds of dollars.) If you aren't in the US, this will be harder to get, and impossible in some countries.
You can accept this as a negative. Even with the positive supplemental test, which means nothing, because we have seen people here with the positive supplemental come back negative on the WB, you can say it's negative, and be pretty certain it's correct. You wouldn't be out of line to come to this conclusion.
You can accept this as a positive. You can get the acyclovir, which is pretty cheap if you have insurance (and even if you don't), and take it or not. If your number drops significantly, or hasn't risen significantly, it's probably a false positive. There are a few different websites you can do this through if you want.
One is https://www.stdcheck.com/herpes-2-test.php?utm_expid=.2560EHt0QiGIP9mdpAPuMA.0&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.stdcheck.com%2F There is a coupon for $15 off right now, making it $50. You only need the hsv2 test.
None of these are wrong choices, or right ones. You have to decide what is best for you - mentally, financially, for your relationship, etc., with this lousy situation.
You can get another IgG test, and see what your numbers say.
From the CDC STD Treatment Guidelines, which, if your doctor is testing for, diagnosing and treating STDs, she needs to be following:
https://www.cdc.gov/std/tg2015/herpes.htm
"The most commonly used test, HerpeSelect HSV-2 Elisa might be falsely positive at low index values (1.1–3.5) (334-336)." It's not even 1/4 of the way down the page.
So what do you do now, besides get a new doctor for your sexual health care?
You can get a Western Blot test, but since your doctor is not on board with any other suggestions, you will likely have to self-pay for this, and it's expensive. You can do this with Terri Warren - https://westoverheights.com/getting-a-herpes-western-blot/ That explains the process, and the cost. (Prepare yourself for hundreds of dollars.) If you aren't in the US, this will be harder to get, and impossible in some countries.
You can accept this as a negative. Even with the positive supplemental test, which means nothing, because we have seen people here with the positive supplemental come back negative on the WB, you can say it's negative, and be pretty certain it's correct. You wouldn't be out of line to come to this conclusion.
You can accept this as a positive. You can get the acyclovir, which is pretty cheap if you have insurance (and even if you don't), and take it or not. If your number drops significantly, or hasn't risen significantly, it's probably a false positive. There are a few different websites you can do this through if you want.
One is https://www.stdcheck.com/herpes-2-test.php?utm_expid=.2560EHt0QiGIP9mdpAPuMA.0&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.stdcheck.com%2F There is a coupon for $15 off right now, making it $50. You only need the hsv2 test.
None of these are wrong choices, or right ones. You have to decide what is best for you - mentally, financially, for your relationship, etc., with this lousy situation.
You can get another IgG test, and see what your numbers say.
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