Need some suggestions..Getting off Opiates

[Entersangeman]

Hey guys, about 6 months ago i ran into my first withdrawls from a week of nonsense with roxicets and oxys..I was freaked out that i stopped right away..About 2 weeks later my misinformed self starting screwing around again..It was the summer and i was off so once a night i would take half of a roxicet..To make a long story short, since then i have been on and off with these things.. It got to a point where for about 2 months i was taking some sort of pain pill..I have tried to stop 3 times. Once cold turkey, The withdrawls werent that bad compared to some of the stuff i have been reading, mostly just really bad chills and insomnia, and mild rls.. recently over the past 2 months i acquired suboxone from a friend..Both times i used the sub for about 7 days..After i went off, i felt fine but 3 to 4 days i would run into an opiate somehow and the cycle would begin again. I dont know what to do? My intake is about 75mg a day at most..I dont know if this is serious enough to goto a sub clinic? Taper method? I really just want to stop using the things..Some suggestions would be greatly appreciated..

[shelby001]

i am on day 13 no vics!  it has not been easy.  to me, and this is just me, i believe you could quit cold turkey.  after reading others experiences with  wd's from oxys it can be really rough but you seem to be able to handle them well.  get clean and STAY clean.  you don't want to get into a further addiction than you already have. (more and more pills, greater tolerance for them)  being an athlete will help tremendously, exercise is one of the best avenues to help with wd's and to stay clean.  i did a taper method, i don't know how, but i was just really determined.  it wasn't fun at all, believe me, but it CAN be done. the key is to find out why you use, which sounds like stress and pressure might be the catalyst.  sub, (which i have no experience with, just read about) can be a nightmare to get off of if taken to long.  i would suggest the therapist, ct, a lot of exercise and a good mental attitude!!!  

[Entersangeman]

What do you mean by aftercare? Im starting to realize how hard staying clean is, ive realized i need some kind of change...I need something to replace taking the pills..I feel if i have something to commit to, such as seeing a doctor, or meetings it will really help me stay focused. To be honest it really isnt physical at all...After the last time i used suboxone for about 6 days, the next 4 before i started again were really great days..I felt back to normal, but ive come to this point now where i realize it could get much worse..The stories of others have made me realize im at a crossroads right now..I wont let myself get there im willing to make the sacrafices now before my life really gets started.. Im only 23..Thanks alot guys your all great people,,

[worried878]

seems like u have been repeating a cycle..and somethig has gotta cvhange..have u tried aftercare?  getting clean is the easy part for most..staying clean is tough for most...keep posting

[Entersangeman]

Thanks for your support guys!  Cathy right now im just trying to figure out what is the best route..When i was on the Suboxone for a week i felt great, but i would run out and 3-4 days after i would find myself in a situation and give in... I wonder if i use it for a short period of time and really allow my brain to recover, along with professional help i can be succesful..I wish i had the time for the C/T approach with professional help but i dont.. How long have you been clean? What did u go through? Was ur situation similar to mine..

[avisg]

I would suggest you either ct or taper .With CT the first 4or 5 days are the wrost then it gets better seen as you are athletic that alone will help.You are getting into a dangerous cycle with the sub.I am glad you are seeing someone ,recovery care is very important for staying clean long term

[cathy5841]

hey and welcome to the form.  if you in the health pages to the right you will find a thread about suboxon, that is the true stories of our members sub experiences...check those out.  i have never taken sub, but with a habit of only 6 months i would do my best to taper or c/t.  i had about a 2 year habit of oxy at about 240mgs...if i can do it, you can.  it is bad for 5 days and then it got a little better...if you had the flu you couldnt take sub.  you can get some meds to help with the w/ds...you can find the thomas recipe and amino protocol in the health pages, both have things to help.  i even worked every day but sat and sun which were day 3 and 4.  what about some na meetings.  they help you learn to deal with life on lifes terms.  you really can do this.  keep posting

[Entersangeman]

Thanks for the words of wisdom..What ***** is i really dont have any time at all to detox cold turkey. I am a professional athlete and im very active with the demands of my sport. Do you guys have any input on a short term Suboxone detox? It seems my biggest problem is the mental aspect of this problem.Im currently looking into seeing a psychiatrist, i feel my addictive personally and history of anxiety and stress seems to be the spark plug behind this. I have been in some tough relationships over the past two years and i feel im using this **** to blind me from my hard times. Im thinking the short detox with suboxone accompanied with seeing someone is the best road to take? Any suggestions?

[upnorthguy]

I'm with Jason. Stay the hell away from the opiates.  It sounds like you have an addictive personality like the rest of us. The worst of the withdrawals usually last 4-6 days. Ironically I'm also at hour 49 off an oxy habit. Once we get through the physical part, then we have the challenge of staying mentally strong. Use this site as therapy. There are alot of good resources here.

Good Luck.

UNG

[this_big]

IF you can stop w/ lite w/ds,I would do it.Chances are this can and will get worse.Im coming off lortab myself right now.on hour 49 now.Let me tell you it *****...bad..I was taking between 80-120 mgs a day for over nine months.It took me a long time to realize it had got that bad.(snuck up on me).My advice...stay far the hell away as you can if you can.Treatment?If the w/d aren't that bad to you I'd go cold turkey.It is complete HELL on me.BUT you have to WANT to STOP eaither way.

                                                                           Good luck,
                                                                                            Jason