Hey Cindy—10+years on and off subs here. How are you doing? I’d like to speak more with you. I think, as women on long term subs, we can talk.
Actually, Subs have kept me productive and out of trouble with the law. I'm sorry your experience was so horrible with them, but is it really the only bad thing you've put into your body? I take ONLY (and I mean) ONLY my Subs and work my program. I do NOT take any other crap other than coffee and antacids. I've never had a problem and decades ago I got in all kinds of trouble because docs gave me off label meds...I was not harming anyone but the state wasted lots of money on me and stole half my life. I WELCOME SUBS and I think they can be good for those who will use them properly.
My own experience with subs has been life saving and I hope if I take it slowly day by day I can be rid of them.
God bless all and hang in there. Understanding is the key to getting help and receiving it.
Cheers.
I was really thinking about calling my Doc and using this option to help me ease my withdrawal symptoms but thank you so much for this advice. I see I must face this cold turkey. And hopefully get through it and come out tougher than I was before and never think to pick up any pain killer in the future
Hey Cindy,
This is Mary. I have been on subs for 10 years too (after an intense 6 years on 500-600mgs of OC/day. It took me a year to come off of the subs. My husband was on it for the same amount of time and tried to quit with me for a year. We felt SICK the entire year. We both lost our minds, drank alcohol to replace and numb out even though we have never been drinkers. We both now have 5-6 ARRESTS from DUIs, PIs, etc because we were totally out of our minds sick for 12 months! It was JUST LIKE GROUNDHOG DAY! Funny you stated it that way because that’s the EXACT way it is. IT NEVER GETS BETTER. Day after Day after Day...you NEVER WANT TO GET OUT OF BED. We were never warned by our doctors that put us on subs. I cold turkey DT’d off of the 500-600 msg of OC that I was on everyday for 6 years straight. It was violent and horrible as expected, BUT it *ended* after 7-10 days! I was weak then, but recovered. Subs are the DEVIL. Holla at me, I’d like to talk to you. My email is: ***@****
Answer to: “how come no doctors really know what the long term side effects and the many actual DAMAGEs to the body subutex does??”
Because most of the medical students I went to undergraduate school with (I’m a PhD Organic Chemist) don’t care about the side effects (meaning what other body SYSTEMS are affected) they don’t care about learning the basic chemistry of how they work and or don’t have the fundamental capability to relate that to how they affect other similar systems and chemistry of the body. They memorize what is “going to be on the test” to get an A. Most barely passed organic chemistry, which means they can’t understand how the medicines (most are organic chemicals meaning are mostly made of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur) work or react with organic chemicals in the body ( bio-organic or biochemicals). I used to say they’re just mechanics, but that lowers mechanics to the level of someone with only rudimentary knowledge of how to change a tire. You must do your own homework as best you can. The only thing I do is mention something about liking organic chemistry and see what they say. If they loved it, you probably have a 50:50 chance they’re capable, if they hated it and you need them for a difficult issue, run and try to find a doctor that is capable. Thay last phrase is the rub. It takes so long to find a capable (meaning competent) doctor that you may suffer quite a bit.
*sigh*
I'm right with you my friend. I've been on methadone at a clinic for 15 years, 180mgs.. and when I miss just one day of dosing I'm climbing the walls!!!!... I was just thinking about switching to Subutex at my doctors office but now hearing about how it's just as bad as what I'm taking I'm scared ********... Idk what to do??.. I'm also on Xanax, Adderall, Seroquel,lamictal,..all on top of the methadone..wish me luck, and I wish you torment to leave you alone as soon as possible. Be easy my friend...tye.