question about sub

[mdan9mm]

Hey everyone, hope all is well. This is day 16 for me on the sub and i saw my dr today. among other things we talked about was this website as i tell him i've learned alot of important things about the use of sub on this site and that everyone here truely seems down to earth and really cares about each other, as were all in the same boat, sort of. Among what we talked about was my concern about the  " severe wd's " from the sub when it is finally time to stop. Again, this is only my 16th day on it and im doing 6 mg per day, down from 16mg a day. I'm doing fine, no wd's, no cravings for the hydro's, go to work, play with the kids, pretty much just back to being " normal ' , whatever that is...lol..!!.  I also have been on seraquel and trazadone to sleep since getting out of detox, and since i started the sub, I have NOT taken ONE of those to sleep as im getting about 6-8 hrs a sleep a night just from being on the sub. I'm still taking the 20 mg lexapro for the depression though, but thats it. My dr said im getting too worried about the wd's when i stop (from what i've learned from you guys). He asked me then to post a question on how did those of you on the sub, finally stop (taper off) as im sure it worked wonders for most of you, AND that most of you did not experience severe wd's ( at least i hope not !! ). Like i said its only my 16th day and i know ill be probably be on it for a while longer, and i dont have a problem with it as long as I feel good, and i dont have any craving to use again. I go to a one on one with my dr once a week, and am going to start those group meetings hopefully in a few days. Thanks, Mark...

[wannabefree330]

I too am on sub, about the same amount of time as you.  While I worry about what w/d will be like, especially w/all the bad experiences i've read here also--I know it was the only way for me to stop using opiates.  I tried the taper, tried ct, nothing was working and my use was escalating.  I have however, read from some who were able to do a very slow taper-as is suggested by my doctor, and either had no w/d or very mild (as in some sweating).  I'll I started at 32 mg per day, and at discharge was supposed to take 8mg 4 times a day.  Once I got home, I was too sleepy as the med slowly built up in my system and I didn't need as much.  I'm now down to 8mg 2 times a day.  Even with that drastic drop, I have had no w/d symptoms.  I think as long as we are on it for the shortest time possible, we will taper without problems.  Try not to think too far ahead-you know how our minds work!!  Just worry about today, and tomorrow will take care of itself.  It's great you are being open and honest w/your doctor.  VERY smart!  If you begin a taper, and it becomes too much, he will prob make it so you don't drop the dose so quickly, or drop it as much (as in mg).  Think of where you were 17 days ago, and where you are now.  My life has made a huge change for the better.  I don't hide in my room, i spend time w/my kids, i'm more productive at work, and I'm going back to the gym....I actually care about myself today, and I'm sure you do too.  Keep it up, and keep asking questions!!  Send me a pm if you ever need to.

[mr.lucky66]

I hope you can keep your sub use short. Most or more than half of the people here who have been on it had tough times after sub. I hate to see people on vicodin get on long term sub. It's like trying to put out a fire with gasoline! This is a big$$$ making industry and is heavily advertised on the radio. It's not a miracle way off drugs, it's just another drug. The best use for it was as a short 5 day detox drug given impatient.. all the best

[bluespence]

Hello! I don't know mucj about Sub, but from what I have read on here a lot of people have stated the w/d's from Sub were worse than their DOC and some have said they should have just gone c/t. But again, I have not tried it, but I have thought about it because I know when I do get off my DOC I will want some help!

Night....